Was flight MH17 shotdown over Ukraine by Pro Rebels or Space Aliens?

[mrsblue]

Doubt they did miss it, no doubt they have been monitoring it for ages and have not had the will or inclination to act upon it, as they still dont.

ISIS got the fighters etc by capturing them.

Propoganda possibly ?

The world was informed the airliner shot down over Ukraine was carried out by either Russia or the so called rebels or both,the West backed up this with footage of a surface to air missile launcher with one missile missing from its load,lucky somebody was hiding in bushes with their camera eh !

I prefer the Russian take where they have given radar evidence that Ukraine ATC ordered the plane to descend at a certain level and change course so fighter jets could machine gun the cockpit area,Russia have repeatedly asked Ukraine ATC for their radar track to be shown to the world which to date they have refused.

 

[Jam_Man]

Propoganda possibly ?

The world was informed the airliner shot down over Ukraine was carried out by either Russia or the so called rebels or both,the West backed up this with footage of a surface to air missile launcher with one missile missing from its load,lucky somebody was hiding in bushes with their camera eh !

I prefer the Russian take where they have given radar evidence that Ukraine ATC ordered the plane to descend at a certain level and change course so fighter jets could machine gun the cockpit area,Russia have repeatedly asked Ukraine ATC for their radar track to be shown to the world which to date they have refused.

Jesus wept.

 

[mrsblue]

Jesus wept.[/QUOTE


Alway's two sides to every story !

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

Propoganda possibly ?

The world was informed the airliner shot down over Ukraine was carried out by either Russia or the so called rebels or both,the West backed up this with footage of a surface to air missile launcher with one missile missing from its load,lucky somebody was hiding in bushes with their camera eh !

I prefer the Russian take where they have given radar evidence that Ukraine ATC ordered the plane to descend at a certain level and change course so fighter jets could machine gun the cockpit area,Russia have repeatedly asked Ukraine ATC for their radar track to be shown to the world which to date they have refused.

Dear o dear. Your the type that believes Elvis and Michael Jackson are still alive. That aliens are watching us from their invisible flying machines, and that the Queen is really a giant Lizard in disguise.
That Malaysia Airlines passenger plane was shot down by Russian backed rebels using a surface to air Russian missile. Almost definitely a mistake for a Ukraine military plane at a long distance. Try reading this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28357880

 

[mrsblue]

Dear o dear. Your the type that believes Elvis and Michael Jackson are still alive. That aliens are watching us from their invisible flying machines, and that the Queen is really a giant Lizard in disguise.
That Malaysia Airlines passenger plane was shot down by Russian backed rebels using a surface to air Russian missile. Almost definitely a mistake for a Ukraine military plane at a long distance. Try reading this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28357880

The Beeb said it so must be true then.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

The Beeb said it so must be true then.

O.K. I'll believe the Beeb and all the others, and you can believe the Russians who lie about everything to do with state security and the underhand take over of the Ukraine.
This is a country that sends it's soldiers into another country in plain soldiers uniforms, and hides it's identity on all it's weaponry and vehicles, tanks etc, and then says it wasn't them, Lol. Lets not forget that they keep insisting that they are not supplying the rebels with armoury and manpower, when the whole world knows that they are. You keep on believing the Russians then.

 

[Firestorm]

The investigation into the cause of the crash of MH17 has yet to be completed by the Dutch Safety board

http://www.onderzoeksraad.nl/en/onderzoek/2049/investigation-crash-mh17-17-july-2014

so unless the Machine gun fire was a very sloppy response to the phrase "a large number of high-energy objects that penetrated the aircraft from outside" (which by the way would be exactly what would be expected with an RPG attack too)Its wholly made up

 

[mrsblue]

The investigation into the cause of the crash of MH17 has yet to be completed by the Dutch Safety board

http://www.onderzoeksraad.nl/en/onderzoek/2049/investigation-crash-mh17-17-july-2014

so unless the Machine gun fire was a very sloppy response to the phrase "a large number of high-energy objects that penetrated the aircraft from outside" (which by the way would be exactly what would be expected with an RPG attack too)Its wholly made up

Witnesses stated they saw two smaller jets track the airliner before the explosion .
Why does Ukraine refuse to give their radar track?
Why did Ukraine order the jet to change course and drop altitude?
Why did the ATC vanish ?...


The population are only ever told one side of any event by the media who are in turn told by government,would you stake your life on everything the governments tell are indeed true?

 

[Jam_Man]

Witnesses stated they saw two smaller jets track the airliner before the explosion .
Why does Ukraine refuse to give their radar track?
Why did Ukraine order the jet to change course and drop altitude?
Why did the ATC vanish ?...


The population are only ever told one side of any event by the media who are in turn told by government,would you stake your life on everything the governments tell are indeed true?

Why did they make the jet decend to get shot at by jet fighters When they can fly much higher than a commercial jet liner can?

Why was a missile fired if they then shot it down anyway.

 

[mrsblue]

23rd July,

The Beeb produced their first report where they question eye witnesses who all claim they saw fighter jets tailing the airliner just before it came down...The Beeb aired this once and then deleted it from all archives.

The cockpit area showed damage of large calibre machine gun fire according to many weapons experts.

The Dutch investigation team refused to comment on machine gun destruction.

Putin was also on a plane similar to MH17 just 150 miles from the disaster..Was he the real target.

Google appears to have removed many telling photos of the crash site.

The truth is out there.

 

[Jam_Man]

The truth is out there but you seem to only want to believe the conspiracy side and ignore everything else (as always).

Whats more likely, a plane flying over a warzone getting accidentally shot down or the complicated theory you seem to be implying.

Your facts have more holes than the original version.

You suggest that these Jets (whose jets, Ukraine I assume? ) were out to get Putin.

However you say ATC ordered the plane to descend so the jets could attack it.

1) If ATC ordered the plane to descend they couldnt have possibly mistaken it for Putins plane, the systems identify the flight number so ATC would know exactly who they were talking to.

2) Jets fly as high as commercial liners so why would then need to have them descend to attack them ?

3) The Presidential plane is different colouring and has two more engines than MH17, that would be rather obvious to a fighter pilot.

As always you will ignore everything that doesnt fit with your theory.


The truth may be out there but if you dont look at things with a balanced viewpoint you wont ever find it.

 

[South Bank Hank]

Jesus wept.

Alway's two sides to every story !

He had something in his eye?

 

[Jam_Man]

Allergies?

 

[MK Shrimper]

Lizard people.

 

[mrsblue]

Love the title of this thread JM.

I am off to investigate aliens now ,first stop Area 51 .:winking:

 

[Jam_Man]

Youd love this thread.

12 pages of discussing what kind of holes were in the plane

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/mh17-evidence-a-missile-was-used-shrapnel-etc.3997/page-9

 

[chapperzUK]

Youd love this thread.

12 pages of discussing what kind of holes were in the plane

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/mh17-evidence-a-missile-was-used-shrapnel-etc.3997/page-9

Nearly as good as our one debating whether or not Paul Smith used the correct hand to save a penalty.

 

[Pubey]

How's your new keyboard treating you mrsblue?

 

[mrsblue]

How's your new keyboard treating you mrsblue?

That look's modern !

 

[londonblue]

How's your new keyboard treating you mrsblue?

I don't see the word "truth" on there.