Next manager of England

[Ricky Otto]

When appointing Alladyce they stressed how important it was to have an English manager, will look a bit odd if they contradict that a couple of months later. They would certainly be doing that with Rangnick. They might be able to spin that Wenger has been in English football for 10 yrs etc. Not sure how they would spin Rangnick other than slating English candidates as being not good enough, you know it will be one of the 1st questions the press ask.

 

[Beefy]

Allardyce only got the job because Wenger wasn't available. The fact that Southgate got the gig until the end of Wenger's contract shows again that he is by far the FA's top choice (and rightly so - he'd be perfect for the job).

That's not to say that he should be less than third favourite. The FA want Wenger it is just a question of whether Wenger wants the FA.

 

[EastStandBlue]

Rangnick's a classy operator and has been a success at pretty much every job he'd been given. He'd be a deeply unpopular appointment within the tabloid press as he's intelligent, foreign and doesn't give anything away, but I dare say he'd have a good approach.

Southgate's good enough to navigate games he's been given, but it's clear that they want a run at Wenger. Whether or not Wenger's really prepared to entertain the job or if he's just using the interest as leverage in negotiations with Gazidis will be interesting to see develop. There could be an interesting game of brinksmanship play out between Arsenal and the FA in the sense that Wenger's clearly the FA's top candidate, but Eddie Howe - almost certainly high up Arsenal's list of Wenger replacements - would be second pick.

 

[Blue_Shrimper1959]

Rangnick's a classy operator and has been a success at pretty much every job he'd been given. He'd be a deeply unpopular appointment within the tabloid press as he's intelligent, foreign and doesn't give anything away, but I dare say he'd have a good approach.

Southgate's good enough to navigate games he's been given, but it's clear that they want a run at Wenger. Whether or not Wenger's really prepared to entertain the job or if he's just using the interest as leverage in negotiations with Gazidis will be interesting to see develop. There could be an interesting game of brinksmanship play out between Arsenal and the FA in the sense that Wenger's clearly the FA's top candidate, but Eddie Howe - almost certainly high up Arsenal's list of Wenger replacements - would be second pick.

He's certainly got an interesting approach (only signing players under 25 being one example of this). Great success in the lower leagues, but not quite cut it at the top: Sacked by Stuttgart, sacked by Schalke 1st time around and resigned from Schalke in his second spell due to exhaustion. Would be a strange appointment for me (if it weren't for Ashworth being involved)....if we go foreign I would much prefer Wenger.

 

[Bearded Shrimper]

That's a pertinent question, particularly because it will split the fan base.

There'll be a considerable portion of it which believes international football should be representative of that nation's identity. It should be English players playing under an English manager in the only way England know how - blood and thunder, high pressing, high tempo with guts, passion [pronounced PASHUN] and heart. Do it for Sir Bobby. Do it for Thatcher. Just do it.

Those people will have to stomach the fact that that brand of football just isn't as successful as they might like it to be, particularly in tournament football where games are every three/four days.

There'll also be an element of the support that think international football should be almost an extension of club football, with an attitude that your FA should be doing all it can to win. We should be prepared to pay for the very best to give our squad every fighting chance of winning a major competition. Expensive training facilities should be built and they very best coaches sought after. If that means adapting our style to suit the more modern game, then so be it.

Of course, there are also the fans who want both. They want - expect - us to win and win our way. With an English manager and an English ethos. Anything else is either cheapened or failure. In some cases both.

And it's because of that the FA can't win. Not unless we somehow repeat the success of 1966 which, given the maturation and all-round levelling off of international football wherein comparative minnows like Iceland, Costa Rica and Wales can do well, is particularly difficult.

not at all mate, that's rubbish.
I want an English manager and I want them to try to adapt to win football matches.
to say that it's Mike Bassett or using your brain and that's it is total toilet i'm afraid mate, and pretty patronising

 

[Bearded Shrimper]

Maybe its because the FA are useless in hiring the right man !
Maybe it's because the FA are a bunch of Blazers who havnt got any clue!

They are even meant to be talking to the German coach(who many including myself have never heard of)

Hiring Roy was bizarre and it left the FA looking a bunch of fools.
They never appointed Clough or Redknapp,these guys may easily have done something,we will bever know.
They should be wooing Howe and nobody else IMO.

that says more about you than them

 

[Floval Flyer]

Rangnick - 5/2 ?!

shows how desperate the FA are and how low down the list of desirable jobs England Manager has become... Id stick with Gareth, and go all out to get Wenger. Not my favourite manager (that's Klopp), but he do a good job...

longer term Eddie Howe, but also like the Gravel-eater Sean Dyche

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

I am hoping for Hoddle to return, with Southgate, Neville, maybe Shearer working for him.


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[mrsblue]

that says more about you than them

i don't follow German football so had no idea of the bloke,reckon there are plenty more who have never heard of him

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I am hoping for Hoddle to return, with Southgate, Neville, maybe Shearer working for him.


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Non-starter I'm afraid.

Would he still want to bring "faith-healing " Elaine with him though and what does he think about handicapped people these days? :unsure:

Surely, he'd have to bring in Darren "sicknote" Anderton as part of his back up team too? :winking:

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Non-starter I'm afraid.

Would he still want to bring "faith-healing " Elaine with him though and what does he think about handicapped people these days? :unsure:

Surely he'd have to bring in "sicknote" Darren Anderton as part of his back up team too?:winking:

He showed his knowledge inthe Euros, I accept he has baggage but he has served his penance.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

He showed his knowledge inthe Euros, I accept he has baggage but he has served his penance.

I agree with you about the Euros but the suits in the FA are not the types to ignore the "baggage," unfortunately.

Have a good afternoon,btw!

 

[Bearded Shrimper]

Hoddle seems really poorly thought of as a manager, especially a man manager. his academy has done some great work but has he learnt enough in that time?
the fact he hasn't had a job in many years is worrying.

I think Alan Shearer is a perfect example of the problem - he admitted he demanded the England job off the FA. He's managed 8 games ever and has shown no willingness to put the shift in, he just expects to be handed it

 

[EastStandBlue]

to say that it's Mike Bassett or using your brain and that's it is total toilet i'm afraid mate, and pretty patronising

Good job I didn't say that anywhere in that post then.

I am hoping for Hoddle to return, with Southgate, Neville, maybe Shearer working for him.


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The FA won't touch Hoddle with a bargepole. You only have to see what ex-pros who worked under him say about the man to get that. The Sheringham quote about him pretty much sums it up perfectly.

 

[mattitouk]

According to the Times, apparently Southgate is getting paid £500,000 for the 4 games he will manage.

Not a bad gig at all.

 

[mrsblue]

According to the Times, apparently Southgate is getting paid £500,000 for the 4 games he will manage.

Not a bad gig at all.

Crazy money !

We know the squad give their appearance money to charity,why not go one step further and pay or every fans ticket for one game,sort of apology for the Iceland debacle.

 

[Ricky Otto]

I haven't heard anybody who has played under him say anything good about Hoddle, he speaks tactical sense and obviously knows the game but is terrible with people.

I went to a sportsman's dinner with Matt Le Tissier this year and he spoke about how he was a spurs fan and Hoddle was his hero. He was very excited when he just broke into the Southampton team and got to play against him and Hoddle was great to him after the game when Matt approached him and told him of his admiration. So when he was made England manager Matt was thrilled that he might get to play for him. He did and he was a totally different person, a complete a-hole was the name he used. Even worse was that Hoddle was made Southampton boss after and Le Tiss said it was the only time he was ever unhappy at Southampton. He also commented that he has spoken to loads of people in the game and they all say he Hoddle was alright before he found religion.

 

[manor15]

Crazy money !

We know the squad give their appearance money to charity,why not go one step further and pay or every fans ticket for one game,sort of apology for the Iceland debacle.

1) Why should you be given money to go to a football match, rather than a charity that could save or improve lives?
2) A sell-out 90,000 crowd at Wembley earns around £3 million in ticket sales alone with ticket prices at £20/30/40 not including the hospitality seats. England players get given £20,000 each, so all 23 would only add up to £460,000.

 

[mrsblue]

1) Why should you be given money to go to a football match, rather than a charity that could save or improve lives?
2) A sell-out 90,000 crowd at Wembley earns around £3 million in ticket sales alone with ticket prices at £20/30/40 not including the hospitality seats. England players get given £20,000 each, so all 23 would only add up to £460,000.

Each player could easily afford 50k each then add the manager and staff plus the dim witted FA for employing Roy.


I think England fans would appreciate the gesture,after all they spend plenty watching the tripe.

 

[RHB]

There'll be a considerable portion of it which believes international football should be representative of that nation's identity. It should be English players playing under an English manager in the only way England know how - blood and thunder, high pressing, high tempo with guts, passion [pronounced PASHUN] and heart. Do it for Sir Bobby. Do it for Thatcher. Just do it.

Would that be for Nike?