US Presidential election thread

[RHB]

How many people of voting age are there?

This may provide a rough answer but it isn't exact for 2016:

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/7/13536198/election-day-americans-vote

 

[Gt Yarmouth Shrimper]

This may provide a rough answer but it isn't exact for 2016:

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/7/13536198/election-day-americans-vote

Works out to about 47% base on those figures, which is nearer mrsblue's number.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Although I didn't allow for people too young to vote ( I did say my figures were ish and about) they are in the right area.
Barna, take note
As for the break up of college vote, I believe the number of votes awarded are based on population, maybe Mr President can enlighten us when next on here.
I'd also value Rusty's opinion on the poor turn out.

My pleasure. "I love the poorly educated." DT.

He should do.The fact is that a majority of the poorly educated did vote for Trump.

http://college.usatoday.com/2016/11/09/how-we-voted-by-age-education-race-and-sexual-orientation/

 

[Supernaut]

[video=vimeo;188794196]https://vimeo.com/188794196[/video]

 

[Bielzibubz]

The 'wall' will never get built. Mark my words. If anyone wants a tenner bet with the readies going to SZ then let's have it. i'll bet here and now that in four years time from the day of his inauguration the wall won't have been physically built.

It'll cost billions to build, politically VERY provocative to many in his own party and seriously, can anyone really envisage the west allowing another Berlin Wall to be built with all the years of turmoil and personal strife that caused to so many?

 

[MK Shrimper]

I imagine the majority of Trump's wishlist won't happen - the Republican party will reign him in and in 4 years (if he lasts that long) he'll be unceremoniously booted out.

 

[callan]

The 'wall' will never get built. Mark my words. If anyone wants a tenner bet with the readies going to SZ then let's have it. i'll bet here and now that in four years time from the day of his inauguration the wall won't have been physically built.

It'll cost billions to build, politically VERY provocative to many in his own party and seriously, can anyone really envisage the west allowing another Berlin Wall to be built with all the years of turmoil and personal strife that caused to so many?

I will take the bet :)

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/mexican-wall-already-here

http://content.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1814377,00.html

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/03/160304-us-mexico-border-fence-wall-photos-immigration/

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

The 'wall' will never get built. Mark my words. If anyone wants a tenner bet with the readies going to SZ then let's have it. i'll bet here and now that in four years time from the day of his inauguration the wall won't have been physically built.

It'll cost billions to build, politically VERY provocative to many in his own party and seriously, can anyone really envisage the west allowing another Berlin Wall to be built with all the years of turmoil and personal strife that caused to so many?

I doubt it will be a bricks and watch tower construction but possibly a wire and sensors with more border patrols. Cheaper and likely popular with many voters.

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

One interesting statistic on the turnout figures was that more highly educated voters voted for HC whereas Trump mainly appealed to voters without qualifications.

There's a moral there somewhere.:whistling:

Simplistic rubbish and the reason the left is getting spanked all over.
Frankly, you're wrong in nearly everything you come out with so get back to your Guardian women's pages.

 

[mrsblue]

The left are being destroyed,nobody wants to listen to their spiteful bile,the world has turned against the liberals and the London elite,now the USA has spoken.

Brilliant times for the sensible.....yippee.

 

[Napster]

The left are being destroyed,nobody wants to listen to their spiteful bile,the world has turned against the liberals and the London elite,now the USA has spoken.

Brilliant times for the sensible.....yippee.

Good times for me I'm a white male.

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

The left are being destroyed,nobody wants to listen to their spiteful bile,the world has turned against the liberals and the London elite,now the USA has spoken.

Brilliant times for the sensible.....yippee.

We shall see. The politics of liberal free trade has failed because, whilst benefiting individual countries, creating growth it, at the same time, produced huge inequalities in wealth. IMHO, failure to address this inequality is much to do with the Brexit vote and the election of Trump. However, it is one thing to channel the anger of this under class but it's a whole different ball game to create an economic system which will be better than the discredited one we have. The danger is one of throwing out the baby with the bathwater. The situation is not going to be made any easier with the advancement of automation. I'm reminded of the arab spring and just hope the glee being expressed by many will not end up with the disillusionnment of a economic system which is no better suited for purpose than the present one and worse, something which causes friction and agression between countries.

 

[Bielzibubz]

I will take the bet :)

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/mexican-wall-already-here

http://content.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1814377,00.html

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/03/160304-us-mexico-border-fence-wall-photos-immigration/

Your on my friend ;)

I'm of the mind that the Republican party would have thrown their collective weight behind Ronald McDonald if he had been the Republican candidate chosen to run for President. As a political party their no1 overriding priority was to get one of 'theirs' into the Oval Office. I suspect that privately there aren't very many, if any at all (except that loony toon Sarah Palin) Republican Senators, Congressmen or Representatives that actually agree with him and his policies, such as they are. There are many many lines that he's said he'll cross that just won't be allowed to happen. The 'great big wall' being one of them. Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and some some extent California. All their economies and labour markets depend quite substantially on the transient and permanent Mexican migrants that have made those states their home.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

I predict a renewal of the chad wall drawing craze but with the the 'wot no wall' tag

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

The left are being destroyed,nobody wants to listen to their spiteful bile,the world has turned against the liberals and the London elite,now the USA has spoken.

Brilliant times for the sensible.....yippee.

not sure why this would make you happy!

 

[mrsblue]

not sure why this would make you happy!

Because i am sensible:winking:

 

[mrsblue]

We shall see. The politics of liberal free trade has failed because, whilst benefiting individual countries, creating growth it, at the same time, produced huge inequalities in wealth. IMHO, failure to address this inequality is much to do with the Brexit vote and the election of Trump. However, it is one thing to channel the anger of this under class but it's a whole different ball game to create an economic system which will be better than the discredited one we have. The danger is one of throwing out the baby with the bathwater. The situation is not going to be made any easier with the advancement of automation. I'm reminded of the arab spring and just hope the glee being expressed by many will not end up with the disillusionnment of a economic system which is no better suited for purpose than the present one and worse, something which causes friction and agression between countries.

The Arab Spring was founded by the liberal left .

I hope Trump pulls his troops right out of the ME and then maybe just maybe we follow suit.

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

The Arab Spring was founded by the liberal left .

I hope Trump pulls his troops right out of the ME and then maybe just maybe we follow suit.

You can add to that a refusal by our government to engage in war by proxy in supplying weapons to Saudi Arabia. Ooops, perhaps that's the kind of deals we really are going to need when we've left the single market?.......and that's all tied up with oil anyway, isn't it? You see, I can identify spiteful bile, whether it comes from the left or the right. Proposed free-trade deals such as TTIP and CETA, which in their present form I am strongly against, are exactly the kind May will give her right arm to sign up to as soon as she's disentangled the UK from the EU. Yet, aren't those exactly the same type of liberal free-trade deals you and Trump abhorr?

 

[mrsblue]

You can add to that a refusal by our government to engage in war by proxy in supplying weapons to Saudi Arabia. Ooops, perhaps that's the kind of deals we really are going to need when we've left the single market?.......and that's all tied up with oil anyway, isn't it? You see, I can identify spiteful bile, whether it comes from the left or the right. Proposed free-trade deals such as TTIP and CETA, which in their present form I am strongly against, are exactly the kind May will give her right arm to sign up to as soon as she's disentangled the UK from the EU. Yet, aren't those exactly the same type of liberal free-trade deals you and Trump abhorr?

Career politicians can never be trusted with any deals to be had,they are clueless.

Trump is the ultimate businessman,he smells a bad deal from 100 miles away,he will make sure the US do ok,sadly he may not be so generous with the rest of the world.

Boris purchased second hand water cannon of the Germans,the Germans must have been wetting their pants.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Career politicians can never be trusted with any deals to be had,they are clueless.

Trump is the ultimate businessman,he smells a bad deal from 100 miles away,he will make sure the US do ok,sadly he may not be so generous with the rest of the world.

Boris purchased second hand water cannon of the Germans,the Germans must have been wetting their pants.

are you aware of his casino 'empire' that left him on the verge of bankruptcy? Maybe the sniffing in the debates indicates that his sense of smell still hasn't recovered.
I'm not sure if the US will do ok if the Mexicans refuse to pay for the wall and his fellow patriots follow his example of being 'smart' and not paying tax, where does the Great Wall funding come from then?