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Ref Watch .... Walsall

No, I wasn't at Orient myself, but I have read the reports and post-match comments, and seen the goals / penalty incident. I understand he had a poor game, but that we didn't lose out due to his poor decisions more that they evened themselves out over both teams.

I guess my point is that if you start off with a 'this ref is ****' attitude, you'll end up losing focus on the important bit of the game - putting the ball in the onion bag. Given that players read this, do we really want them going into the game thinking 'this guy's a **** ref and he'll make crap decisions all afternoon'?

Refs can have crap games, sometimes you know you've missed something and got something wrong and on a weak day it gets to you and you question yourself, even before the players quiestion you. They are the days when your concentration goes and when you're not concentrating, that's when crap decisions get made. But that doesn't make you crap, it makes you human.

Football refs are not helped one bit by having to apply overbearing, one-size-fits-all, draconian laws which frequently don't give them the necessary discretion they need. For example, every time the ball touches a defenders arm in the penalty area, regardless of whether it was deliberate or gave an advantage to the defender, it's a penalty these days. Common sense is play on if it's accidental and inconsequential. So Clarke's penalty given away at Orient was blamed on the ref when he's got no lea-way to apply common sense.

If we approach the game thinking 'we're good enough to beat Wallsall' and we are, then there's little the ref can actually do about the outcome of the game, even if he tried to.

Lastly, there's the argument for setting the example. If kids see players and fans constantly saying 'the ref was sh*t' every week, it's hardly going to encourtage them to take up refereeing. And if they don't take up refereeing, there's less competition amongst referees cos there's less of them. At grass roots there's a gross shortage of refs, largely because of the abue they get. So we can do our bit as fans in ensuring better refereeing by at least giving the poor sods a chance before jumping on their backs.

Welcome to Shrimperzone Danny!!.
 
I was at leyton and he was useless,
but his not the only bad ref weve had
& some of them have turned out to have the occasional good game
so lets hope its his good game today.
 
I thought the ref was excellent today, kept on top of things and let the game flow. Did get bogged down with petty stuff.

I noticed he actually spoke to both sets of players during the game

VERY refreshing, i suppose we dont always get sh!t refs!!
 
Or, as was hinted at previously, he favours the home side!

To be fair, I thought it was on the whole a decent bunch of officials. The West lino missed a blatant offside early on dead in line with us where the Walsall guy was at least a yard off. The ref kept things flowing and dealt with situations calmly and sensibly. He can come back to RH again please.
 
I thought the ref was excellent today, kept on top of things and let the game flow. Did get bogged down with petty stuff.

I noticed he actually spoke to both sets of players during the game

VERY refreshing, i suppose we dont always get sh!t refs!!

Was the best ref down there this season, he let the game flow, he did not favour either team.

I especially like the adfvantage he played in the 1st half when that useless centre back missed Gower, ref played on, nothing came of the cross, so he bought it back - that is proper advantage rule for the team that was fouled.

Well plyed, better than the penalty given by styles against Man City yesterday - shocking !!
 
Cant believe that was same ref yesterday as the one we had against Orient. Thought he was excellent yesterday and totally proved me wrong as didnt think he was fit to ref again at any level after Orient let alone ref one of our games again.
 
Don't often get to complement refs on their performances but I thought this guy did well yesterday. Didn't notice him at all which is a sign of a good ref.
 
Was the best ref down there this season, he let the game flow, he did not favour either team.

I especially like the adfvantage he played in the 1st half when that useless centre back missed Gower, ref played on, nothing came of the cross, so he bought it back - that is proper advantage rule for the team that was fouled!

Fully agree and that advantage was the best bit of referring I've seen in years if not ever.
 
Was it the same ref? I saw the refs name as Cook on one website!!! He certainly didn't ref like the **** we had at Borient. As much as I disliked him for that game, he more than made up for it yesterday.
 
His excellent performance yesterday (following the appalling one at Orient) shows that the refereeing ties in with everything else to do with League One football: very inconsistent.
 

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