Biggest achievements by former and current players

[Napster]

Following thread about players who have already played at Wembley - I guess this is pinnacle for most players.

So which of our former and current players achieved the most in their career? (Not including managers because Moore would top the lot)

I think we need a points system to find out who are most successful

What can be achieved:

Played in Europe
Premiership winners
Division winners
Caps
Caps whilst at Southend (Doubled)
Promotions
Promotions whilst at Southend (Doubled)
FA Cup winners/runners-up
League Cup winners/runners-up
JPT/LDV winners/runners-up
Trips to wembley

So, before we start scoring, let's work out a scoring system.

I suggest the following:

Played in Europe - 20 points per appearance
Premiership winners (or foreign equivalent) - 15 points per win as squad/first team player
Division winners - 10 points per win as above
Caps - 1 point per cap
Caps whilst at Southend (Doubled cap point)
Promotions - 5 points per promotion as above
Promotions whilst at Southend (Doubled promotion point)
FA Cup winners/runners-up - 20 points as winner/10 as runners up
League Cup winners/runners-up - 10 as winner/5 runners up
JPT/LDV/Autoglass winners/runners-up - 5 winner/2 runners up
Trips to wembley - 2 points per appearance

So, someone like Pat Scully:

League of Ireland winner in 1999/2000 - 15 points
2 European appearances for Shamrock - 40 points
Autoglass finalist - 2 points
Wembley trips - 1 - 2 points
Promotion whilst with Southend - 10 points

Total - 69 points

Is it worth extra points if they have played in Prem?

 

[MK Shrimper]

National squad appearances? Fred, Stanley, Straker :hilarious:

 

[Silencer]

Ronnie Whealan must chalk up a fair few, could we cheat with Bobby Moore?

 

[Napster]

National squad appearances? Fred, Stanley, Straker :hilarious:

Squad appearances could be half of caps, so maybe increase caps to 2 per cap and squad 1 point

 

[Napster]

Ronnie Whealan must chalk up a fair few, could we cheat with Bobby Moore?

No to Moore, only players.

 

[Silencer]

Ok - Stan Collymore, Spencer Prior, Stephen Kelly....

 

[Norwichshrimper]

Following thread about players who have already played at Wembley - I guess this is pinnacle for most players.

So which of our former and current players achieved the most in their career? (Not including managers because Moore would top the lot)

I think we need a points system to find out who are most successful

What can be achieved:

Played in Europe
Premiership winners
Division winners
Caps
Caps whilst at Southend (Doubled)
Promotions
Promotions whilst at Southend (Doubled)
FA Cup winners/runners-up
League Cup winners/runners-up
JPT/LDV winners/runners-up
Trips to wembley

So, before we start scoring, let's work out a scoring system.

I suggest the following:

Played in Europe - 20 points per appearance
Premiership winners (or foreign equivalent) - 15 points per win as squad/first team player
Division winners - 10 points per win as above
Caps - 1 point per cap
Caps whilst at Southend (Doubled cap point)
Promotions - 5 points per promotion as above
Promotions whilst at Southend (Doubled promotion point)
FA Cup winners/runners-up - 20 points as winner/10 as runners up
League Cup winners/runners-up - 10 as winner/5 runners up
JPT/LDV/Autoglass winners/runners-up - 5 winner/2 runners up
Trips to wembley - 2 points per appearance

So, someone like Pat Scully:

League of Ireland winner in 1999/2000 - 15 points
2 European appearances for Shamrock - 40 points
Autoglass finalist - 2 points
Wembley trips - 1 - 2 points
Promotion whilst with Southend - 10 points

Total - 69 points

Is it worth extra points if they have played in Prem?

No - the Prem is rubbish.




Francisco Cagigao - 18,987 points.

 

[Beefy]

Is it worth extra points if they have played in Prem?

Surely Efe Sodje's World Cup arrearences should count for something?

 

[Napster]

Whelan only got 53 caps.

But also 3 FA Cups, 3 League Cups (and one League Cup runner-up), and 6 League Titles, oh and a European Cup (23 appearances in total), plus 5 Charity Shields.

So, erm, 770 points.

 

[Napster]

Surely Efe Sodje's World Cup arrearences should count for something?

Ooh if we're counting major international tournaments that's a good idea. Euros/World/Africa

 

[Silencer]

Whelan only got 53 caps.

But also 3 FA Cups, 3 League Cups (and one League Cup runner-up), and 6 League Titles, oh and a European Cup (23 appearances in total), plus 5 Charity Shields.

So, erm, 770 points.

Ha Ha - thought he might have a few :winking:

Good work Napster

 

[Napster]

I wonder if we should have points for if they made team of the season

 

[Napster]

Sodje -

5 promotions, including one division win
plus 12 caps - and 2 major tournaments
plus one team of the year

 

[Shrimper]

Gary Hooper:

LDV Final with Scunthorpe - 2 points for runner up
Wembley trips - 2 - 4 points
Promotion to Championship with Scunthorpe - 5 points
17 European Appearances for Celtic - 340 points
1 Premiership Win with Celtic - 15 points


Should I include wins for the league cup ect of Scotland;

366 points

 

[Napster]

Gary Hooper:

LDV Final with Scunthorpe - 2 points for runner up
Wembley trips - 2 - 4 points
Promotion to Championship with Scunthorpe - 5 points
17 European Appearances for Celtic - 340 points
1 Premiership Win with Celtic - 15 points


Should I include wins for the league cup ect of Scotland;

366 points

Good point re foreign cups.

Time for a points update

 

[Napster]

Played in Europe - 20 points per appearance
Premiership winners (or foreign equivalent) - 15 points per win as squad/first team player
Division winners - 10 points per win as above
Caps - 2 point per cap
Caps whilst at Southend (Doubled cap point)
National squad call-ups - 1 point
Caps in major tournament (World Cup/Euros/Africa Cup of Nations/Concacaf) - 10 bonus points per game
Promotions - 5 points per promotion as above
Promotions whilst at Southend (Doubled promotion point)
FA Cup winners/runners-up - 20 points as winner/10 as runners up
League Cup winners/runners-up - 10 as winner/5 runners up
Foreign cup winners/runners-up - 10 winner/5 runners up
JPT/LDV/Autoglass winners/runners-up - 5 winner/2 runners up
Trips to wembley - 2 points per appearance
PFA Team of the season - 10 points per appearance

Charity shield counts as a trip to wembley. If trip to wembley is part of major cup, then higher points count

 

[Napster]

Eddie Firmani

3 Caps
One promotion with Genoa; one foreign cup win with Genoa
for Inter Milan, 10 European apps (and 10 goals!)

221 points

But I might have missed more!

 

[Napster]

Collymore

One promotion
3 Caps
One FA Cup final
15 European apps

321 points

 

[Shrimper]

Gary Hooper

LDV Final with Scunthorpe - 2 points for runner up
Wembley trips - 2 - 4 points
Promotion to Championship with Scunthorpe - 5 points
17 European Appearances for Celtic - 340 points
1 Premiership Win with Celtic - 15 points
1 Scottish Cup - 10 points
2 SFPA team of the year - 20 points


Should I include wins for the league cup ect of Scotland;

396 points

Hooper also played for Grays in the FA Vase, do we include that or the FA Trophy?

 

[Napster]

Gary Hooper

LDV Final with Scunthorpe - 2 points for runner up
Wembley trips - 2 - 4 points
Promotion to Championship with Scunthorpe - 5 points
17 European Appearances for Celtic - 340 points
1 Premiership Win with Celtic - 15 points
1 Scottish Cup - 10 points
2 SFPA team of the year - 20 points


Should I include wins for the league cup ect of Scotland;

396 points

Hooper also played for Grays in the FA Vase, do we include that or the FA Trophy?

No to non-league stuff.