Ref Watch ..... Bristol City

[Mick]

As the club can't be bothered to open more than one stand, I can't be bothered to do much more than a short refwatch.

Man in charge tonight is Dave Phillips from Sussex, refereeing his fourth Southend match. First was Huddersfield at home two years ago (lost 1-0 booked Macca), second was away ay Yeovil last year (lost again, sent off Morrison, booked Macca) and most recently last year at home to Swindon (2-2 Macca didn't play). That last game he did well and was hardly noticed.

Older than most new refs (his 3rd season), he is a Police Officer in his 40s. A steady official.

Had the privilege of refereeing Stevenage's first ever League match last Saturday; don't think there were any complaints.

W. Atkin (no relation to Saturday's Atkin) and P. Knight running the lines. Ian Cooper is 4th official. All 3 are regular visitors to Roots Hall.

 

[Onion_Bag_Dave]

As the club can't be bothered to open more than one stand, I can't be bothered to do much more than a short refwatch.

Man in charge tonight is Dave Phillips from Sussex, refereeing his fourth Southend match. First was Huddersfield at home two years ago (lost 1-0 booked Macca), second was away ay Yeovil last year (lost again, sent off Morrison, booked Macca) and most recently last year at home to Swindon (2-2 Macca didn't play). That last game he did well and was hardly noticed.

Older than most new refs (his 3rd season), he is a Police Officer in his 40s. A steady official.

Had the privilege of refereeing Stevenage's first ever League match last Saturday; don't think there were any complaints.

W. Atkin (no relation to Saturday's Atkin) and P. Knight running the lines. Ian Cooper is 4th official. All 3 are regular visitors to Roots Hall.

Keep them coming Mick.

I hate to say it, but it costs more to open all sides of the stadium.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

As the club can't be bothered to open more than one stand, I can't be bothered to do much more than a short refwatch.

Man in charge tonight is Dave Phillips from Sussex, refereeing his fourth Southend match. First was Huddersfield at home two years ago (lost 1-0 booked Macca), second was away ay Yeovil last year (lost again, sent off Morrison, booked Macca) and most recently last year at home to Swindon (2-2 Macca didn't play). That last game he did well and was hardly noticed.

Older than most new refs (his 3rd season), he is a Police Officer in his 40s. A steady official.

Had the privilege of refereeing Stevenage's first ever League match last Saturday; don't think there were any complaints.

W. Atkin (no relation to Saturday's Atkin) and P. Knight running the lines. Ian Cooper is 4th official. All 3 are regular visitors to Roots Hall.

Are you saying he has littleman syndrome?

Forget minimum height restrictions for the police (which they have), there should definitely be a minimum height restriction for referees!

 

[Mick]

Keep them coming Mick.

I hate to say it, but it costs more to open all sides of the stadium.

Stewards are not highly paid. A few extra people who may not be going because:

a) they don't want to be squashed in the main stand
b) they wanted their season ticket seat
c) are put off by the message the club are giving about this game

would cover it, I would have thought.

 

[Mick]

Are you saying he has littleman syndrome?

Forget minimum height restrictions for the police (which they have), there should definitely be a minimum height restriction for referees!

short refwatch not short ref watch !

 

[EastStandBlue]

Is there anything you're positive about surrounding the club, Mick?

Onions perhaps?

 

[Onion_Bag_Dave]

Stewards are not highly paid. A few extra people who may not be going because:

a) they don't want to be squashed in the main stand
b) they wanted their season ticket seat
c) are put off by the message the club are giving about this game

would cover it, I would have thought.

Every little helps.

 

[Mick]

Is there anything you're positive about surrounding the club, Mick?

Onions perhaps?

Yes, I'm positive that I no longer believe anything said by those in charge.

 

[Onion_Bag_Dave]

Cheer up Mick, Blimey!

 

[Mick]

Every little helps.

No you're missing my point. I'm suggesting that with a bit better marketing enough people would come and that would pay for itself.

The message they're sending out is "we've got this minor match to get out of the way so we'll just open up the bit we normally use for reserve games" rather than "come and see a Championship team with England's current number one keeper".

 

[Onion_Bag_Dave]

No you're missing my point. I'm suggesting that with a bit better marketing enough people would come and that would pay for itself.

The message they're sending out is "we've got this minor match to get out of the way so we'll just open up the bit we normally use for reserve games" rather than "come and see a Championship team with England's current number one keeper".

Maybe you are right, but, Bristol City isn't an attractive fixture, and nobody cares about the Carling Cup. It has always been badly attended, apart from big games.
I suppose it could have been marketed better but as the East stand is nowhere near sold out yet, it just proves really, that even with it being marketed in the correct way, it probably still wouldn't be attended well.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

Have you never watched Field of Dreams, OBD?

Build it (up) and they will come......

 

[Firestorm]

rather than "come and see a Championship team with England's current number one keeper".

and then stand back and watch the uproar as Bristol City give Dean Gherkin a run out.......

 

[EastStandBlue]

No you're missing my point. I'm suggesting that with a bit better marketing enough people would come and that would pay for itself.

The message they're sending out is "we've got this minor match to get out of the way so we'll just open up the bit we normally use for reserve games" rather than "come and see a Championship team with England's current number one keeper".

At his Devonshire home?

First round ties in the Carling cup historically draw in poor attendances and, what with it usually being a meaningless game against another lower-tier club with a fair few fans still on holiday. There's nothing wrong with the club only opening the East Stand, at least until ticket sales point towards an attendance that would merit opening more stands IMO.

 

[mfurok]

At his Devonshire home?

First round ties in the Carling cup historically draw in poor attendances and, what with it usually being a meaningless game against another lower-tier club with a fair few fans still on holiday. There's nothing wrong with the club only opening the East Stand, at least until ticket sales point towards an attendance that would merit opening more stands IMO.

Small club mentality becomes selfv fulfilling prophesy.

Lucky for you that you don't run your own business.

 

[EastStandBlue]

Small club mentality becomes selfv fulfilling prophesy.

Lucky for you that you don't run your own business.

Supply and demand... If you're only expecting to sell 2,000 items, you wouldn't rent a warehouse capable of storing 10,000 at an extra cost, when there's a storage facility down the road capable of storing 2,000, would you?

I dare say the club would be more than happy to open all four stands if the demand was there, but it isn't, so they haven't. For me at least, this is a (rare) show of financial prudence from the club.

 

[Mick]

and then stand back and watch the uproar as Bristol City give Dean Gherkin a run out.......

They advertised the West ham game as first team. Didn't hear much uproar when they included none of their probable starting XI.

 

[Vultan]

You'll also find that a small crowd spread out over the whole ground would be non-atmospheric, whereas small crowd pushed together in ground together, will cause a lot more atmosphere and push that feeling onto the pitch for Southend to run out 2-1 winners! Bet on that!!!

 

[Boreham Shrimper]

You'll also find that a small crowd spread out over the whole ground would be non-atmospheric, whereas small crowd pushed together in ground together, will cause a lot more atmosphere and push that feeling onto the pitch for Southend to run out 2-1 winners! Bet on that!!!

I'm liking your thinking :clap: