I hate to say it...

[Blueronron]

I agree some of those NHS managers and plastic surgeons are really greedy. Your right, our young lads are just playing for pride......Good job they don't have to travel on the train or tube like the many of us, plus they will be paid for 3 months off.....Unlike so many on here.

Glad we agree,makes a change from your conspiracy theories

 

[Joolz]

He hasn’t got a point, Arteta and Hudson-Odoi have both been tested positive. I’m sure there are others in the EFL who have or are self isolating. Cancelling it for the time being is best possible option to prevent further spread.

His option basically says **** the managers, staff and players health.

I disagree, everyone else is still going to work, why should footballers be any different?

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

Because one plays for greed, the other work for pride

Really?
I thought both wanted to do a job they like/love - and get paid for it.
I doubt any NHS staff would work for free.

 

[Joolz]

It’s a **** time, but the priority is to keep people out of Unnecessary contact. Your commute is necessary, your visit to the shops to panic buy isn’t necessary but that’s your choice. 22 blokes, the staff, officials and operational staff getting together for a behind closed door match is not necessary.

Just to prove I have an open mind and am open to debate, you then follow up with a very good point - it isn't necessary.

This then leads us on to another subject mind, which is how important carrying on 'as normal' is going to be. Possibly too early to say at present, but my gut feeling is it is going to prove vital in the months ahead.

 

[rigsby]

Glad we agree,makes a change from your conspiracy theories

There not all my theories. That said I do like the fear factor shown by so many when asked to step outside their comfort zone.

Still I notice not one of of the usual suspects cant even attempt to answer the Plutonium files......The story is relevant at this moment in time.

I'll make a decent donation to the zone if anyone can explain why none of you have never heard of it.

 

[Microbe]

Testing players staff etc is not a way to get games on behind closed doors.
The test is not a blood test but a swab from the back of the throat and a nasal swab. It relies on detecting the virus in these swabs by a process of nucleic acid amplification and detection.
The test is very good BUT needs a certain level of virus particles to be present in the sample for it to give a positive result.
If the virus is not yet at that level, or the swab is not taken properly, you will get a false negative and the person has the possibility of passing on the virus to others through coughing, spitting and sneezing.
So there is no sure way to be sure you're not going to infect the others around you even at a closed doors game.

 

[Leigh_Seasider]

Surely it would benefit the players to play behind closed doors, all give each other the virus, self contain and be done with it? We could've had a couple of games already. These are fit young blokes not 'at risk'. Panic mode is increasing in Leigh on Sea .... Iceland on the London Rd looking extremely sparse at 8am. A lady was wandering round saying 'this is crazy, where's the pasta'. I helpfully told her she was 2 weeks late.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Surely it would benefit the players to play behind closed doors, all give each other the virus, self contain and be done with it? We could've had a couple of games already. These are fit young blokes not 'at risk'. Panic mode is increasing in Leigh on Sea .... Iceland on the London Rd looking extremely sparse at 8am. A lady was wandering round saying 'this is crazy, where's the pasta'. I helpfully told her she was 2 weeks late.

Good idea, like Chicken-pox parties for young kids. Get it over and done with in a week and you're (probably) immune and unable to pass it on to those who are at risk.

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

If we, the uk, are bounced into taking drastic control measures too early by idiots in the media and peer pressure from Europe then there's no way the season will be able to be finished before the next season is due to start.
This is because there will be a second, and possibly a third peak as the susceptible come into contact with the virus at the end of the period of isolation which will end before it should cos we started it too early.
Its epidemiology, not rocket science.
Trust the experts, they know what they're doing.

Absolutely not. We need to panic and listen to scare stories[/QUOTE]

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

Good idea, like Chicken-pox parties for young kids. Get it over and done with in a week and you're (probably) immune and unable to pass it on to those who are at risk.

this is a new disease and not much is known.
So Coronavirus parties probably not the greatest of ideas!

 

[MK Shrimper]

this is a new disease and not much is known.
So Coronavirus parties probably not the greatest of ideas!

I have absolutely no fear of getting it. I'll be rough for a few days, I'll recover. Such a massive over reaction by everyone. I understand we have to protect the vulnerable but the end of civilisation? Ridiculous.

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

Testing players staff etc is not a way to get games on behind closed doors.
The test is not a blood test but a swab from the back of the throat and a nasal swab. It relies on detecting the virus in these swabs by a process of nucleic acid amplification and detection.
The test is very good BUT needs a certain level of virus particles to be present in the sample for it to give a positive result.
If the virus is not yet at that level, or the swab is not taken properly, you will get a false negative and the person has the possibility of passing on the virus to others through coughing, spitting and sneezing.
So there is no sure way to be sure you're not going to infect the others around you even at a closed doors game.

Very well explained, but in effect you're saying the test could be poorly conducted, and therefore null and void.
And yes, there is no guarantee, but that's like saying every operation carries a risk, no matter how minor.
If risk is minimised by testing, and those tests come back 'negative' are you saying that's still a reason to postpone games?
The logic of that is negative tests should be treated suspiciously or ignored. Eh?

 

[Jim Levenstein]

The football season is done lads. They've turned football off with small numbers of people having the virus they are not going to turn football back on in 3 weeks when thousands more have it or another 3 weeks after when the numbers are even higher... it's done.

 

[Ayrshire Blue]

Colchester always play behind closed doors

 

[Microbe]

Very well explained, but in effect you're saying the test could be poorly conducted, and therefore null and void.
And yes, there is no guarantee, but that's like saying every operation carries a risk, no matter how minor.
If risk is minimised by testing, and those tests come back 'negative' are you saying that's still a reason to postpone games?
The logic of that is negative tests should be treated suspiciously or ignored. Eh?

What I'm saying is that the only test that you can really act upon is a positive one. All negative tests are Potentially wrong.

IF you want to ensure that only virus free players are allowed to play in behind closed doors games then you are screwed.
If your happy to risk potentially positive players taking part then test and play.
Either way they tend to be fit young men so the risk to them is minimal.
The media trend seems to be avoid the virus at all costs but I dont agree with this either.
Just trying to explain that testing is not infallible.

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

What I'm saying is that the only test that you can really act upon is a positive one. All negative tests are Potentially wrong.

IF you want to ensure that only virus free players are allowed to play in behind closed doors games then you are screwed.
If your happy to risk potentially positive players taking part then test and play.
Either way they tend to be fit young men so the risk to them is minimal.
The media trend seems to be avoid the virus at all costs but I dont agree with this either.
Just trying to explain that testing is not infallible.

Forgive me, but as Basil Fawlty once said of Sybil: 'specialist subject: the bleedin' obvious!'

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

I have absolutely no fear of getting it. I'll be rough for a few days, I'll recover. Such a massive over reaction by everyone. I understand we have to protect the vulnerable but the end of civilisation? Ridiculous.

I wish that was true but the concern coming from doctors from all over the world says differently I’m afraid.
Not talking about civilisation ending but world recession is very much around the corner

 

[GBJ]

I wish that was true but the concern coming from doctors from all over the world says differently I’m afraid.
Not talking about civilisation ending but world recession is very much around the corner

Absolutely.

The economy is about to be decimated.

Businesses all over the world are going to be in severe trouble.

There will be an incredible amount of job losses, with no replacements in site.

And that’s before we get to the idea that many people will die.

We keep talking about our games being postponed. Let’s remember that there’s a good chance some Shrimpers have sadly seen their last games.

 

[kentblues]

Its all a mute point now anyway. They wont be playing. But even if they had tried behind closed doors every time a clubs player was tested positive they and their team mates they have been in contact with would have had to isolate for 7 days (now if they are living with family 14 days). Current protocol is that they should then not play for the same period they have self isolated for. It would be pot luck how many games you would get to complete- one or two might complete all games others would be lucky to complete another two (particularly the London clubs). Certainly to have any chance you would have to forget about training.

The EFL may also have heard (if they didn't have their fingers in their ears) that medical staff won't be provided to cover gatherings such a sporting events, concerts etc. After all they might just have other priorities. Not sure but suspect there still has to be medical cover for games even if its just the players running around in an empty stadium.

 

[Billy Bests boot laces]

Panic mode is increasing in Leigh on Sea .... Iceland on the London Rd looking extremely sparse at 8am.

Lunchtime at both Sainsbury's at Rayleigh Weir & Morrison's in Hadleigh, no soup, powdered milk, pasta, loo rolls or packs of beers.
First time i've seen beer supplies in 10, 12 & 16 bottles/cans empty. Guess many blokes are stocking up for when they are stuck at home with the wife & kids for up to 14 days!!.