Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

[RHB]

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[Ricky Otto]

I'm quite disappointed that no slanderous or defamatory comments have been made against me, I want to feel involved

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

I'm quite disappointed that no slanderous or defamatory comments have been made against me, I want to feel involved

If you want to feel involved I recommend slumber rather than slander - sounds similar but is much more relaxing!

 

[RHB]

If you want to feel involved I recommend slumber rather than slander - sounds similar but is much more relaxing!

Certainly worth sleeping on.

 

[Benfleet A1]

I'm quite disappointed that no slanderous or defamatory comments have been made against me, I want to feel involved

Hate to see people being left out.

Big nose.

 

[Ricky Otto]

Hate to see people being left out.

Big nose.

I'm really sensitive about that you swine

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

Hate to see people being left out.

Big nose.

Glass houses and all that

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

Apparently at least six labour MP's ready to jump ship over Corbyn's leadership regarding Brexit - no great loss or something more concerning?

 

[Blueronron]

Apparently at least six labour MP's ready to jump ship over Corbyn's leadership regarding Brexit - no great loss or something more concerning?

Apparently at least six labour MP's ready to jump ship over Corbyn's leadership regarding Brexit - no great loss or something more concerning?

Maybe Vince Cable stirring up ****e, to boost his ailing party

JC wont back a second referendum is the reason given, and why should he, the people voted Out and that's how it has to sake for the sake of democracy

Chuka and the others should have fought a better campaign to remain, rather than throw their toys out

8 point lead in opinion polls, bet the Tories wont dare go to people for an election

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Maybe Vince Cable stirring up ****e, to boost his ailing party

JC wont back a second referendum is the reason given, and why should he, the people voted Out and that's how it has to sake for the sake of democracy

Chuka and the others should have fought a better campaign to remain, rather than throw their toys out

8 point lead in opinion polls, bet the Tories wont dare go to people for an election

8 point lead in 1 poll.
Was it 151 Tory MPs that voted against the PM in her no confidence vote?
If Vince can only name 6 Labour MP's that would want to join a Centrist party then he may as well not bother. That level is sub SDP and with the few Tories that would be tempted it would be a toxic brand from the off.
This has been talked about for months and talk seems to be all they have got.

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

Now talking about over 20 Labour MP's - Vince Cable will either back this up or will look very foolish indeed.
TBH, he has never struck me as a fool.

 

[MK Shrimper]

I think if May's deal fails miserably (it will) and we're facing a no-deal then this may gain some traction. I can imagine centreist Tory's will also be agog at the fact of us crashing out of the EU.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I think if May's deal fails miserably (it will) and we're facing a no-deal then this may gain some traction. I can imagine centreist Tory's will also be agog at the fact of us crashing out of the EU.

No.It's just the latest Brexit unicorn.Sorry.

 

[MK Shrimper]

No.It's just the latest Brexit unicorn.Sorry.

Disagree, and I'm done arguing the toss with people about Brexit so I'm ducking out.

 

[Ricky Otto]

There is definitely a want for a new centre left party if Labour carries on down the Corbyn route regardless of brexit IMO

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

There is definitely a want for a new centre left party if Labour carries on down the Corbyn route regardless of brexit IMO

I seem to remember that being tried back in the 80's with the SDP.That didn't go to well,did it? This is a total non-starter.If you want a different government to the Tories, you'll have to vote Labour (when you next get the chance).

 

[Ricky Otto]

I seem to remember that being tried back in the 80's with the SDP.That didn't go to well,did it? This is a total non-starter.If you want a different government to the Tories, you'll have to vote Labour (when you next get the chance).

It usually forces Labour or the Tories to come towards the centre in fear, in the same way UKIP has moved the Tories to the right. I don't think for one min that a party outside of the main 2 will get into government, that doesn't mean it can't influence how those parties move forward. The 80's for Labour didn't go too well did it?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

It usually forces Labour or the Tories to come towards the centre in fear, in the same way UKIP has moved the Tories to the right. I don't think for one min that a party outside of the main 2 will get into government, that doesn't mean it can't influence how those parties move forward. The 80's for Labour didn't go too well did it?

No they didn't (as I said).However the idea that a new Social Democratic party is now going to emerge again from the loins of Labour is just so much nonsense.There's much more chance of a split in the Tories who are ,of course,HMG and as such are entirely responsible for the whole Brexit mess.In any case,if you look around other Social Democratic parties in Europe, there's little in the 2017 manifesto that Labour put forward to the electorate,which is particularly left-wing.

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

It usually forces Labour or the Tories to come towards the centre in fear, in the same way UKIP has moved the Tories to the right. I don't think for one min that a party outside of the main 2 will get into government, that doesn't mean it can't influence how those parties move forward. The 80's for Labour didn't go too well did it?

Or most of the 90's for that matter. When they did get back into power it was with a centralist party. Clues are there if you care to look.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Or most of the 90's for that matter. When they did get back into power it was with a centralist party. Clues are there if you care to look.

Labour is now the largest Social Democrat party in Europe with a mass membership that the Tories can only dream of.All the young people who've joined Labour since Corbyn was elected leader didn't join up because they wanted "a centralist party." If they'd wanted that they could have joned the LIB/Dems. Wait a minute.