Justice for the 185

[mrsblue]

Actually we had a chat about Shrimper zone. Apparently the players do read it and they reckon you are the biggest P*** who posts on here.

Did they mention me Riggers:winking:

 

[Mick]

Firstly, the Football League (and I accept this is not a popular view) have been quite clever about it. By agreeing to the EFL Trophy compromise, they've put the ball in the court of the Premier League clubs. Their take up has been so embarrassing and half-hearted, it has put the EFL in a much strong negotiation position. If the Prem does come calling for B teams in the league, they can honestly say "look, we gave you the chance to put your B teams in and you've shown your clubs don't even want it". I attended the Shaun Harvey talk back in August and found it very interesting and I don't believe he deserves the pelters he is getting for this season. It almost seems that he's deliberately engineered a failing pilot to show that B teams don't work.
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..... oh like in The Producers ?

 

[Jai]

Firstly, the Football League (and I accept this is not a popular view) have been quite clever about it. By agreeing to the EFL Trophy compromise, they've put the ball in the court of the Premier League clubs. Their take up has been so embarrassing and half-hearted, it has put the EFL in a much strong negotiation position. If the Prem does come calling for B teams in the league, they can honestly say "look, we gave you the chance to put your B teams in and you've shown your clubs don't even want it". I attended the Shaun Harvey talk back in August and found it very interesting and I don't believe he deserves the pelters he is getting for this season. It almost seems that he's deliberately engineered a failing pilot to show that B teams don't work.
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..... oh like in The Producers ?

Hopefully not, although it is probably the most talked-about EFL Trophy ever.

 

[mrsblue]

Premier League B teams in the league is not going to happen. I was worried about it last summer but a number of things have happened since then which have changed my opinion.

Firstly, the Football League (and I accept this is not a popular view) have been quite clever about it. By agreeing to the EFL Trophy compromise, they've put the ball in the court of the Premier League clubs. Their take up has been so embarrassing and half-hearted, it has put the EFL in a much strong negotiation position. If the Prem does come calling for B teams in the league, they can honestly say "look, we gave you the chance to put your B teams in and you've shown your clubs don't even want it". I attended the Shaun Harvey talk back in August and found it very interesting and I don't believe he deserves the pelters he is getting for this season. It almost seems that he's deliberately engineered a failing pilot to show that B teams don't work.

Secondly, we've seen there is no appetite for Premier League B teams among the Premier League clubs themselves. When the idea was floated, they liked the idea. However, liking an idea and actually doing it in practice are different things. It is logistically an absolute nightmare in a congested English fixture programme and what with internationals and Premier League 2, there's no chance of B teams in the league. The rub is this - the Premier League teams are very concerned about their 'brand', almost more than the actual football team. It's become clear that B teams are struggling against teams of a standard that you just don't find in the lower leagues elsewhere in the world. Losing heavily on a weekly basis to provincial teams is embarrassing. In fact, Spurs pulled out of the EFL Trophy for that very reason, they didn't want to be humiliated.

Thirdly, and perhaps most obviously it has already been ruled out of the Whole Game Solution. It is off the table. Not even an option.

This EFL Trophy has been an absolute farce but it needed to happen. It has proven that B teams can never work in English football, it is a football system unlike any other in the world.

My personal view on this competition is I won't watch my teams play against a B side as it is an insult, but actually going to games against real clubs makes it more obvious to the powers-that-be that it is B teams that people are against, not the competition. So call me a scab if you want but I went to the Orient game as I wanted to watch some football. I do think the Trophy is hard to support as there are so many problems with it, beyond B teams, so whether I'll go to any more matches I don't know. Especially in light of today's announcement about Kent Elms corner, not sure I can deal with much more transport chaos this season!

The prem will probably throw millions at the league in the future,promising something like "our B teams cannot gain promotion to the Championship"

I hope it never happens....sadly money talks.

 

[Jai]

The prem will probably throw millions at the league in the future,promising something like "our B teams cannot gain promotion to the Championship"

I hope it never happens....sadly money talks.

They won't - no appetite from clubs, they've already shown they don't want to commit their youngsters to even a few games a year.

 

[Ironshrimper]

Actually we had a chat about Shrimper zone. Apparently the players do read it and they reckon you are the biggest P*** who posts on here.

Ahhh does the truth hurt? It's such a shame so many don't believe a thing you say, oh well if it please yourself :)

 

[Ironshrimper]

Did they mention me Riggers:winking:

Blue you know he talks 99% sh....... there is always that 1% of truth.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

Blue you know he talks 99% sh....... there is always that 1% of truth.

A stopped clock is right twice a day.

Although Mrsblue is less of a clock and more of a....





... broken record.

 

[mrsblue]

A stopped clock is right twice a day.

Although Mrsblue is less of a clock and more of a....





... broken record.

My record is stuck....u poo poo.