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Mark Milligan

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lombard said:
Deegan,one of the worst players in SUFC recent times !!!
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Not been to many games in the last 2 seasons?....

Nobody is saying Deegan was a great player but at least he had some intent and pride. Teams turned up at RH last season knowing it would be an absolute stroll...we did not have one player who made their opposite number deal uncomfortable... Let alone nervous.

A few seasons back away a Gills, Deegan made sure Bradley (18 goals a season, L1 player of the year) Dack never got a kick and yes he took a yellow..... The performance was noticed by lots the Gillingham fans I spoke to after but not by to many of our own.
 
Tangled up in Blue said:
Yes he could pass,that's why he was played in midfield.But as you say his legs had gone for L1.Suprised he wasn't tried at the back really.
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He was by Waddock away at Tranmere and had a bloody good game, a game we should have won. Dieng was milling around in front of him in midfield. That's the problem they both seemed better at the back but we needed someone in the centre of the park with a bit of experience. Dieng looked worse than Milligan in centre mid hence Milligan playing higher up the field. Would of been interesting to see them both at the back... but considering how many centre backs we started the season with it should never have been a consideration
 
Times are hard, he only had one season left in him. We have to rebuild for the future and he did not have one here.
 
tallboyblue said:
Times are hard, he only had one season left in him. We have to rebuild for the future and he did not have one here.
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He still managed to play the 2nd most amount of games. Yet people want rid and are happy to keep White who started 9 games! Milligan brought a lot more to the team and had bags of experience at an international level. He would be massively influential on our young players. I know who I’d rather keep if it was the choice of the two!
 
Ricey said:
He still managed to play the 2nd most amount of games. Yet people want rid and are happy to keep White who started 9 games! Milligan brought a lot more to the team and had bags of experience at an international level. He would be massively influential on our young players. I know who I’d rather keep if it was the choice of the two!
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Finance dictates no doubt.
 
Chairman Trigg said:
Unfortunately for us ...quality around him was needed to get the best out of him which the team was sadly lacking in last term.We really needed a blood and guts leader last season not a skilful player past his prime.
With better players he would have probably looked a class act .Must have regretted joining us when he saw how poor the squad was ,and then the Chairman dismantled the club around him.
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That’s about right, his legs had gone though. Wrong club at the wrong time for Mr Milligan
 
wildheart said:
That’s about right, his legs had gone though. Wrong club at the wrong time for Mr Milligan
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His legs were no worse than Maher's.

The difference is that Maher had, at least in the second part of his career, players like Mark Gower to pass to.
 
Ricey said:
Bolton could help make a start.
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It wouldn't save £20k a week though would it?

The replacement isn't going to do the job for free and he would need an assistant and a first team coach at the very least. Last season would suggest that a fitness guru is not something to cut corners on either.

It's not Campbell and staff's wages that are currently so much the problem as all the money spent since 2018 paying off Brown, Horton, Coughlan, Shaw, Powell, Mathews, Keen, Bond, Waddock, Todorov, Cross etc. Then there will be legal fees for dealing with their appointments and terminations, agents fees for recruiting them in the first place, relocation expenses and the like.

The new manager is going to want to make personnel changes. Whilst Campbell made Dieng his captain, it's just as likely that the new manager won't see him in his plans, just after we extended him. His wages are then deadweight or we end up having to pay him off like Ridgewell, Kiernan and Cox. One of the major problems from last season was that we were still carrying deadweight from 4 managers ago.

This churn has a great cost. The answer can't be to continually sack the manager. In my opinion we should have stuck with Powell and now we should stick to Campbell. The cost is too great to keep changing direction.
 
Yorkshire Blue said:
It wouldn't save £20k a week though would it?

The replacement isn't going to do the job for free and he would need an assistant and a first team coach at the very least. Last season would suggest that a fitness guru is not something to cut corners on either.

It's not Campbell and staff's wages that are currently so much the problem as all the money spent since 2018 paying off Brown, Horton, Coughlan, Shaw, Powell, Mathews, Keen, Bond, Waddock, Todorov, Cross etc. Then there will be legal fees for dealing with their appointments and terminations, agents fees for recruiting them in the first place, relocation expenses and the like.

The new manager is going to want to make personnel changes. Whilst Campbell made Dieng his captain, it's just as likely that the new manager won't see him in his plans, just after we extended him. His wages are then deadweight or we end up having to pay him off like Ridgewell, Kiernan and Cox. One of the major problems from last season was that we were still carrying deadweight from 4 managers ago.

This churn has a great cost. The answer can't be to continually sack the manager. In my opinion we should have stuck with Powell and now we should stick to Campbell. The cost is too great to keep changing direction.
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Fair points, it was said with tongue firmly in cheek.

You cannot deny though that if the whole team go the replacement team would be nowhere near as pricey.
 
Ricey said:
Fair points, it was said with tongue firmly in cheek.

You cannot deny though that if the whole team go the replacement team would be nowhere near as pricey.
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I don't think we can assume that once we've factored in the transition costs. And that's assuming that the figure you quote is accurate.
 
Yorkshire Blue said:
It wouldn't save £20k a week though would it?

The replacement isn't going to do the job for free and he would need an assistant and a first team coach at the very least. Last season would suggest that a fitness guru is not something to cut corners on either.

It's not Campbell and staff's wages that are currently so much the problem as all the money spent since 2018 paying off Brown, Horton, Coughlan, Shaw, Powell, Mathews, Keen, Bond, Waddock, Todorov, Cross etc. Then there will be legal fees for dealing with their appointments and terminations, agents fees for recruiting them in the first place, relocation expenses and the like.

The new manager is going to want to make personnel changes. Whilst Campbell made Dieng his captain, it's just as likely that the new manager won't see him in his plans, just after we extended him. His wages are then deadweight or we end up having to pay him off like Ridgewell, Kiernan and Cox. One of the major problems from last season was that we were still carrying deadweight from 4 managers ago.

This churn has a great cost. The answer can't be to continually sack the manager. In my opinion we should have stuck with Powell and now we should stick to Campbell. The cost is too great to keep changing direction.
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Can't see what costs we'd have to pay if Campbell volutntarily leaves his job to take up the Bolton post.It's more the opportunity costs of his replacement,which we'd have to pay anyway.Sort of agree with you about Powell but we really should have appointed a better replacement than Bond.Though hindsight (as always) is a wonderful thing. :Winking:
 
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Yorkshire Blue said:
I don't think we can assume that once we've factored in the transition costs. And that's assuming that the figure you quote is accurate.
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It has come from numerous very reliable sources.

I suppose we have to hope Bolton want him.
 
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