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canveyshrimper - Vice Admiral Horatio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson, 1st Duke of Bronté, KB
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Yorkshire Blue - Sir Ian Terence Botham OBE
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Yorkshire Blue - Sir Ian Terence Botham OBE
Nelson: Kiss me Hardy
Botham: Kiss me Miss Barbados
Nelson: got his sailors to do all the fighting for him
Botham: floored the highly annoying Ian Chappell himself
Nelson: unable to grow mullet because of silly hat
Botham: legendary mullet
Nelson: one-eyed sailor
Botham: one-eyed commentator
Nelson: had the French firing stuff at him and unable to get out of the way and lost a leg
Botham: had the West Indies firing stuff at his head at 90mph and didn't even need a helmet
Nelson: when things got a bit sticky he died
Botham: when things got a bit sticky he hit a breath-taking 149* to turn the test and lived to tell the tale
So was Nelson only a 'Vice' Admiral? Pah, if he couldn't even make it to the top position, and again I suspect he never hit a cricket ball into the confectionary stall (and out again) then It's Beefy for me.
Nelson: Kiss me Hardy
Botham: Kiss me Miss Barbados
Nelson: got his sailors to do all the fighting for him
Botham: floored the highly annoying Ian Chappell himself
Nelson: unable to grow mullet because of silly hat
Botham: legendary mullet
Nelson: one-eyed sailor
Botham: one-eyed commentator
Nelson: had the French firing stuff at him and unable to get out of the way and lost a leg
Botham: had the West Indies firing stuff at his head at 90mph and didn't even need a helmet
Nelson: when things got a bit sticky he died
Botham: when things got a bit sticky he hit a breath-taking 149* to turn the test and lived to tell the tale
How anyone can describe Ian Botham as a hero is beyond me. Really is. He was good at cricket.
Forget the cricket for a moment though and you've got the massive amounts of money he has raised for Leukemia Research. I think YB mentioned it on a prior thread as being over £100m. That has to be admired.
In the harshest possible way, walking from Lands End to John O Groats isn't hard. It's not exactly fun, but people walk every day. Granted not that far, but you get my meaning. If he did it carrying 50kgs of weight, or backwards etc ( do you get my drift?) then it be more impressive. Yes, the amount of money raised is impressive, but a celebrity doing something for charity is always going to raise lots of money and lots of media awareness, by virtue of the fact that a celebrity is involved.
Drift got and it's a fair point. However...
You probably don't remember the first one he did, back in the mid-1980s (you young git). That really was something else at the time, way beyond what we were used to famous people doing. Yes I know that as far as feats of endurance go it's not up there with climbing Everest in your pants, but the fact is he did it. Time and time again - not taking the easy option of just fronting a few tv appeals.
All valid points. However, Nelson was a leader of men. Bothams stint as Captain of England in 12 Tests, ended with 8 draws and 4 losses.
In the harshest possible way, walking from Lands End to John O Groats isn't hard. It's not exactly fun, but people walk every day. Granted not that far, but you get my meaning. If he did it carrying 50kgs of weight, or backwards etc ( do you get my drift?) then it be more impressive. Yes, the amount of money raised is impressive, but a celebrity doing something for charity is always going to raise lots of money and lots of media awareness, by virtue of the fact that a celebrity is involved.
C'mon people make love (to a Miss World contestant) not war!