RIP Maggie Thatcher.

[applelover]

Decency has never been high on the list of priorities for the left.

...says Rusty :hilarious:

 

[steveo]

I cant remember seeing three big a losers in the same sentence before now.

 

[Clinton Baptiste]

I'm sorry, I just think it's in extremely poor taste. I despise Arthur Scargill, Derek Hatton and George Galloway but I won't be celebrating when any of them pass over.

Agree 100%, Galloway is a vile person, those idiots in Brixton partying,doubt any of them either a) were born when Thatcher was in power or b) have a job (and are still probably blaming her for that fact). Soap-dodging *****.

 

[OldBlueLady]

Agree 100%, Galloway is a vile person, those idiots in Brixton partying,doubt any of them either a) were born when Thatcher was in power or b) have a job (and are still probably blaming her for that fact). Soap-dodging *****.

Two of the three have come out with predictably poor taste comments, am amazed Scargill's kept quiet.

 

[applelover]

Whether or not you think Thatcherism was on balance a good or bad thing you have to see that Thatcher's policies actually destroyed some peoples lives. Why should those people show her any respect?

 

[OldBlueLady]

Whether or not you think Thatcherism was on balance a good or bad thing you have to see that Thatcher's policies actually destroyed some peoples lives. Why should those people show her any respect?

Did you see the earlier post about pit closure comparisons under two different PMs?

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/t...n-that-liverpool-fans-hate-sir-alex-ferguson/

Interesting aside, pit closures under two Prime Minister's;

Maggie Thatcher: 146 (173,000 jobs lost)

Harold Wilson: 406 (315,000 jobs lost)

Also worth noting IMO, that Wilson's reign was shorter than Thatcher's and that he was a suspected Communist sympathiser. I wonder why the hard left never attacked him over pit closures...

 

[Grayson]

The faux-moral high ground about celebrating is death is funny. I'm sure many whinging about people being pleased at Thatcher's demise were equally delighted at the death of Bin Laden.

 

[OldBlueLady]

The faux-moral high ground about celebrating is death is funny. I'm sure many whinging about people being pleased at Thatcher's demise were equally delighted at the death of Bin Laden.

I'm not aware of any "faux" moral high ground, I certainly wasn't jumping for joy when he died or Sadam for that matter, just felt relief for the innocent people who suffered in a far greater way than anyone here did under Thatcher. Celebrating the death of anyone doesn't sit comfortably with me, that's probably because underneath everything, I still have Christian values at heart.

 

[Crabby Shrimper]

The faux-moral high ground about celebrating is death is funny. I'm sure many whinging about people being pleased at Thatcher's demise were equally delighted at the death of Bin Laden.

Firstly, I celebrated his capture, but not his death. same with Saddam.

Secondly, they were still in a position to cause harm, whereas Margaret Thatcher was no longer active. Had she died during the miners strike, I could understand some celebrating, as it'd potentially alter the situation, however dying as she did makes no difference to any current issues.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

The faux-moral high ground about celebrating is death is funny. I'm sure many whinging about people being pleased at Thatcher's demise were equally delighted at the death of Bin Laden.

Are you equating Mrs Thatcher with Bin Laden? Really?

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

Whether or not you think Thatcherism was on balance a good or bad thing you have to see that Thatcher's policies actually destroyed some peoples lives. Why should those people show her any respect?

How did her policies destroy people's lives? Were ex-miners/steelworkers/commies immediately rendered unemployable because their previous place of work was closed or downsized. I have been made redundant twice, and went on to procure another job elsewhere. I suppose I could have sat on my arse and complained like a whiny little bitch that life was unfair, but I had kids to feed. I consider that to be my responsibility, rather than the responsibility of the state. That was the ethos that Mrs Thatcher personified - take some responsibility, work hard, and you'll be alright. Now how do you like those ****ing apples?

 

[superblue24]

How did her policies destroy people's lives? Were ex-miners/steelworkers/commies immediately rendered unemployable because their previous place of work was closed or downsized. I have been made redundant twice, and went on to procure another job elsewhere. I suppose I could have sat on my arse and complained like a whiny little bitch that life was unfair, but I had kids to feed. I consider that to be my responsibility, rather than the responsibility of the state. That was the ethos that Mrs Thatcher personified - take some responsibility, work hard, and you'll be alright. Now how do you like those ****ing apples?

100% this.....I said a week or two ago that those who shout the loudest about benefits are the ones who are looking for someone else to blame (i.e. the government) rather than taking responsibility and knuckling down.

 

[Grayson]

Are you equating Mrs Thatcher with Bin Laden? Really?

It's not an equation, it's hypocrisy over reactions to death. Maybe not anyone specific on here but I'm sure the thousands crying for respect for Thatcher's death have celebrated another in the past.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Don't see that myself. It's about paying your respects, and whether you're the Queen of England or not, you'd be bound to want to do so for someone you worked quite closely with for 11 and a half years. It's NOT a state funeral but a ceremonial one.

I'm not so sure that a weekly audience (or half an hour or so chat) with the PM (that's when Parliament is in session of course) qualifies as a "close working relationship",whether it's for 11.5 years or not.:nope:

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

No, Prince Charles attended Wilson's on her behalf. On the other hand, she went to dinner with Wilson to mark his resignation, an act she only ever bestowed on one other PM, Winston Churchill. Does that make her a Labour supporter? Some things she would have done out of duty, some out of choice. Maggie was the longest serving 20th century PM and the only woman, I fully understand that the Queen feels she ought to attend.

No,as I said,Churchill's state funeral was the only funeral of a PM that the Queen has attended in person.Whether or not another Royal attends on her behalf is irrelevant.

If the Queen feels she "ought to attend",as you suggest,then that demonstrates, (not suprisingly), where her political loyalities lie,IMO.

Let's face it,this is a state funeral in all but name.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Decency has never been high on the list of priorities for the left.

And the right only care about making money,right? :whistling:

 

[steveo]

It's not an equation, it's hypocrisy over reactions to death. Maybe not anyone specific on here but I'm sure the thousands crying for respect for Thatcher's death have celebrated another in the past.

But Maggie didn't set out to deliberately kill innocent people. One or two Argies may have been but they shouldn't have started it.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

And the right only care about making money,right? :whistling:

Somebody has to.

 

[Mad Cyril]

The fact that the Queen (plus Phil the Greek) are going next week makes it a state funeral in all but name.:sad:

The funeral parade goes right past my office on Fleet street so I might try and sneak in if there is a free bar.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

And the right only care about making money,right? :whistling:

Somebody has to.

You seem to have missed the significance of the "only" in my remark and focused on the "making money" bit instead.

Symptomatic, I suppose,of what is to be expected of one of Thatcher's children.