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Post-Match Thread and Ratings Rochdale 3-4 Southend United

Thanks for putting this out and I'll be interested what people thought of that interview. He describes Southend as having the squad depth therefore messaging to the Ogden's he needs more in his team. Fair enough. It seemed to also show a lack of confidence his team could go all the way and points to why he made those disastrous substitutions. For me as an old fellah I don't like seeing these great old clubs hanging about in the National League and that includes Rochdale, Oldham, York, Hartlepool. Glad to see the likes of Chesterfield, Wrexham and Notts County on their way. Come on Southend lets get out of here and inspire those old Division Two stalwarts to get back up too.
 
we went there a few weeks back and took around 500. the away terrace plus seats i believe holds around a 1000. bizarre that they would restrict us to 600 as they wont use the terrace themselves so potentially losing out on a lot of revenue. i get the 15% but thats just the minimum they need to give
I don't think they need the money. If they do restrict ticket sales to us that can only be because they don't want us to turn it into a home game.
 
one thing i didn;t mention which i thought was great , among all the celebrations i witnessed Colin sprint over to Hayes and jump all over him celebrating , shows a great professionalism & Character to big up your main rival like that despite probably being bitterly disappointed not to be playing in such occasions

my opinion of Colin went up a few notches after seeing that .......what a great lad and a touch of class
Make a point to watch Collin during the half time kickabout. He's one of the most skilful players in the squad!
 
More from the Rochdale Fans Forum:

We saw a Southend Team and a manager who was clearly in charge. A manager who reacted positively to adversity and his players who relished the physical battle, smelled blood and reacted accordingly. They had more desire and belief, they sensed our soft underbelly and it was ultimately a game of men against boys. McNulty stated publicly on the eve of the match that we haven't transformed enough yet to return to the EFL..that must have been music to the ears of the Southend manager and players, the Dale manager admitting that we aren't good enough. A terrible message to send out to our players before such a crucial game.
 
I've been a critic of Kev's this season, and still harbor some doubts about his tactical capabilities and in-game decisions, but he got those substitutions bang on last night.
As for the players - 100% commitment to a man. Keenan Appiah-Forson - he has come of age in the space of half a season...outrageous display last night. Love the guy.
Bonne - another classy assist and shows strength and guile which massively helps the team in key attacking areas...I was a strong critic at the start of the season, but now I'll be hugely disappointed if we don't reward him with a new contract.
 
Got in around 4am, up for work at 7am. Absolutely knackered, broken, bruised, skint.

Couldn't care less. What a moment, what a game to be at.

Some iffy defending, some well worked goals and some proper hearts on sleeves. The fans as well, just wow, phenomenal turnout and noise.... no voice left, to the delight of the wife.

That's the team we want to see and can connect with. Same again next week.
 

More from the Rochdale Fans Forum:

We saw a Southend Team and a manager who was clearly in charge. A manager who reacted positively to adversity and his players who relished the physical battle, smelled blood and reacted accordingly. They had more desire and belief, they sensed our soft underbelly and it was ultimately a game of men against boys. McNulty stated publicly on the eve of the match that we haven't transformed enough yet to return to the EFL..that must have been music to the ears of the Southend manager and players, the Dale manager admitting that we aren't good enough. A terrible message to send out to our players before such a crucial game.
Thanks for sending this out. Although McNulty is right, a team does need to really become a hardened, sharp unit to go up, he shouldn't be saying they're not ready before a match. O Lordy! He's a young lad and hopefully will learn to be zippy in future. I would have said the same about the Shrimpers before Christmas, but we already look like warriors out there. Whatever happens over the next game or two, we'll have a great gang which will only get better next season. COYB or even COYR !
 
Nonsense, the first goal is a standard use your hands and dive on the ball….he was nearer than the striker but decided to make the shape of a star and stand up, total mistake.
For me, when you look back at those highlights, the expectation was that Rodney was going to shoot, which is what dictated Hayes’ action. That starfish you mentioned is a tried and tested approach favoured the world over and I’m sure most can immediately bring to mind one of the most famous premier league goalkeepers ever demonstrating its value.

What happened was Rodney, after already beating the defender with an excellent touch, reacted to Hayes with another excellent touch, before finishing with yet another.

Sometimes you’ve just got to applaud the finish. If Mo Salah had done it, that’s exactly what people would be doing.

Noor didnt look good at the end - could hardly move and ice-pack on his knee (hopefully just an impact injury)
As I recall, Noor went down pretty hard after exactly that - a knee on knee collision - towards the end of the game.

I was very critical of Hayes on here in the first half, but he really grew into the game and started to command his box a lot better. As shrimperjon has said, if you’re going to mention the first goal (which I maintain was a mistake from him)
Opinions but for me, too easy from up in the stands. Brilliant finish from an in-form Rodney who’s already shown he’s way too good for this level. See above.

After reading this post I've watched the highlights video on DAZN a number of times and really can't see where Hayes was at fault for their first goal. What mistake do you think he made?
Exactly.
 
After reading this post I've watched the highlights video on DAZN a number of times and really can't see where Hayes was at fault for their first goal. What mistake do you think he made?
Hi Blake, you asked @JCB why he thought Nick Hayes made a mistake for the first goal. I'll also provide an answer with my thought process and reasoning, which hopefully will give you an insight.

running, stopping and making the star shape, then trying to tackle with his feet was a total error rather than diving to his left hand side, taking the ball with his hands or stopping the shot deflecting it out with his hands or body.

why?

The reason Rodney made the ball, after the brilliant turn, leaving Goodliffe chasing shadows, which I really admired, and opened us up completely, was the delay in getting to the ball by stopping and make like a star.

As soon as he stopped he gave Rodney the advantage and ability to reach the ball first. once he had made that turn, the ball was a good 6 to 7 foot in front of him. Hayes comes forward and dives straightaway and spreads as a first reaction and goes for it with his hands he definitely makes that and as a minimum diverts the ball wider from Rodney's path, but probably holds it.

The ball is on the left side of Hayes' body, perfect for him to spread his body, which also blocks the cross shot if Rodney had got to the ball first. All that was natural for me. In my prime and I say prime, I'd have backed myself to make that and did with similar efforts from a similar range and I NEVER went feet first, you have defenders for that. (Not with such a good a turn as that turn was, but plenty where you need to take at feet).

That is why I was, at the time and still now, critical of Hayes for that goal, because that had his name on it and he made the wrong decision plain and simple. Also, as an ex keeper, at a decent level, all the third paragraph went through my mind when watching in a split second, as it should have done for Hayes, it didn't and we paid the price. The finish from the tight angle was superb and coupled with the turn, makes it a splendid, but avoidable goal to concede.

It's that old adage, that an outfield player can make a mistake and nine times out of ten a team-mate gets you out of it. For 'keepers it's not the same, a mistake usually costs a goal. All a 'keeper can do is make the next save, take the next cross and be as solid as possible as the game goes on. I think Nick Hayes did that yesterday and did get stronger. I don't hold him accountable at all for the second goal, another great finish. Glancing headers are the hardest to anticipate at the best of times, but that was perfect! He had no chance from the penalty, well struck, but he went the right way and was close, but not close enough to it.

Nick then pulled off at least three creditable saves to keep the score down, took crosses, dropped to work the clock and waited on the through ball until the striker got near him in the late stages. All round an average performance, for me on the back of what I viewed as a mistake. Worth a 7 if I was scoring him. (Wiggy's score of 3 an utter JOKE btw!)

blake you have your answer from me, with the background to my view, I hope it is what you wanted and gives you a little insight to those of us that was/are critical of that first goal and why.
 
When we were 1-3 down, I still thought we could turn it around, because it looked like Rochdale were thinking the same thing. In all the horrors of the last few years we might have forgotten that teams do fear us when we're aggressive. SUFC is a big name and you can see the hesitation in teams. I don't think FGR or York are going to believe they're going to roll us over. We've got a real chance of getting into L2 and I'm sure the team are really believing this now. We are Southend UNITED and we're coming to get you!!
 
Here's a short video of the final whistle and moments after


I was just in front of you next to the guy with the red top. Sort of recognised him from years ago. Ended up jumping up and down hysterically with him for the 3rd & 4th goal.

Got home about an hour ago and had a pleasant enough 4 hour drive home with some lovely memories of last nights game.
 
Hope they don't forget shareholders priority status again
Funny thing is, after I complained (via Trust) about no priority for Rochdale they called me and offered me a ticket. At the time of complaint I wasn't going to attend, I just didn't want shareholders rights to be forgotten. But when they called I couldn't really back out so bought a ticket and attended. Funny how things pan out!
 
Nothing has been mentioned to my knowledge, I take it there were no disturbances after the game.
 
one thing i didn;t mention which i thought was great , among all the celebrations i witnessed Colin sprint over to Hayes and jump all over him celebrating , shows a great professionalism & Character to big up your main rival like that despite probably being bitterly disappointed not to be playing in such occasions

my opinion of Colin went up a few notches after seeing that .......what a great lad and a touch of class
Yes, also noticed that after a previous match, Wealdstone I think but may have been Gateshead.
 
Couldn't be there last night, so settled for my local (Railway). What an absolute banging night of football and beers. Was rammed lady night.

I love this ****ing football club.

Little Keenan is fast becoming one of my all time favourites. What a little baller and a top lad. He ran it last night.

This is Southend united. We never do things in moderation.

Let's go and smash these vegan muppets and get to Wembley.

A rammed lady night? Damn, that sounds pretty good. I’m a bit ****ed I didn’t go to the Railway now.
 

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