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Post-Match Thread and Ratings Southend United 0-0 Wrexham
- Thread starter Spaceman Spiff
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You don't want to be too loose or you might lose your marbles!
kentblues
Director⭐
We mustn’t let the abysmal officiating overshadow this. Firstly a free scoring Wrexham were reduced to a few opportunities and the clean sheet was deserved. And the performance was good. I think a 3412 gives us just that little bit more in MF and Miley and Husin is a good pairing as they are both high energy and give som “bite”. All in all positive as was Hyde getting a shift in
sufc4life21
Newbie⭐
Should have better angle to see if it was handball when either southend or Wrexham post the highlights of the today match on YouTube Monday.
Martin Lewis
Midfield
How refreshing to read something rational
THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK
Life President⭐⭐🦐
The handball even if it is one, doesn't matter. The ref never blew for handball, and the lino never flagged for it. The point is the goal was disallowed for offside. Hyde was never offside as seen from the behind the goal footage looking at the 6 yard line. The lino bowed to the pressure the Wrexham players put on him. He then probably thought he had made a mistake, and tried to right it. Disgraceful.
ON LOAN Southend United striker Jake Hyde was left stunned after seeing his goal ruled out against Wrexham.
Hyde appeared to have given the Shrimpers the lead, against his parent club, midway through the second half at Roots Hall.
And Hyde could not believe it when referee Aaron Bannister reversed his decision to allow the goal.
“I haven’t seen anything like that in a 12 or 13 year career,” said Hyde.
“I’ve never seen a side given a goal, and then seen it taken off about five minutes later.
“Our whole team has celebrated and gone back to the halfway line before the opposing team talk to the referee and change his mind.”
ON LOAN Southend United striker Jake Hyde was left stunned after seeing his goal ruled out against Wrexham.
Hyde appeared to have given the Shrimpers the lead, against his parent club, midway through the second half at Roots Hall.
And Hyde could not believe it when referee Aaron Bannister reversed his decision to allow the goal.
“I haven’t seen anything like that in a 12 or 13 year career,” said Hyde.
“I’ve never seen a side given a goal, and then seen it taken off about five minutes later.
“Our whole team has celebrated and gone back to the halfway line before the opposing team talk to the referee and change his mind.”
JD
Resident Jinx⭐
Do I give a flying ****?
kentblues
Director⭐
Good question. He joined both Brighton and Sheff I think when they were Prem. So suspect more than we would pay. Certainly it’s difficult to believe that if he signed a new contract as Sheff wanted he wouldn’t have been on more than Dalby let alone what he is getting here. Anyway irrespective good luck to him - just hope he gets game time.
Evening Echo
The News
ON LOAN Southend United striker Jake Hyde was keen to remain upbeat following the Shrimpers’ 0-0 draw with Wrexham.
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bazzashrimper
Director
Yep. I was of course being sarcastic in my post. The linesman waved his flag so violently when he felt the ball was a cm too far forward I thought he was going to have a heart attack. Shame he didn’t have such good vision for the handball right in front of him. But really the officiating throughout could be a reason for some to not back to watch VL football
FarmdogSUFC
The Custard Splat - Southend United Fan Podcast🦐
He can **** off. Bell
Jai
President ⭐
Very decent display but so disappointing to see yet again things go against us. Our season really hasn't got going yet, and we could have done with that 3 points. Reading Wrexham's forum, they are also not fooled by our early league position and consider us promotion rivals. Despite being an eternal pessimist, I make them right.
I thought Lopata was superb particularly in the first half and knocked a bit of confidence out of Wrexham's lauded front two. Husin was just brilliant. I have to say Wrexham's weakness was in the middle but Husin in particularly exploited it ruthlessly and constantly won tackles, broke up play and started attacks.
Having Ralph back meant we pushed forward on that side and pinned them back, and his clash with Forde down that side was a genuine L1 battle. Forde's challenge to stop Ralph getting a clean header from a set piece was brilliant.
Only thing for me was in attack we looked like we had two players more likely to score goals when given chances, but who were also far more reliant on service. Powell was dropped and I understand the reasons why but he creates so much on his own. Of course he puts a lot of those chances over the bar, but I did think we lacked that creativity today. Everything had to go through Mooney, who did well but was always going to find it tough.
Fonguck as well breaks the lines very well and is willing to draw players out by running at defences. What you gain in Husin's nous and work rate you lose in Fonguck's ability to open up the play. Tricky decisions ahead, but nice ones.
I thought Lopata was superb particularly in the first half and knocked a bit of confidence out of Wrexham's lauded front two. Husin was just brilliant. I have to say Wrexham's weakness was in the middle but Husin in particularly exploited it ruthlessly and constantly won tackles, broke up play and started attacks.
Having Ralph back meant we pushed forward on that side and pinned them back, and his clash with Forde down that side was a genuine L1 battle. Forde's challenge to stop Ralph getting a clean header from a set piece was brilliant.
Only thing for me was in attack we looked like we had two players more likely to score goals when given chances, but who were also far more reliant on service. Powell was dropped and I understand the reasons why but he creates so much on his own. Of course he puts a lot of those chances over the bar, but I did think we lacked that creativity today. Everything had to go through Mooney, who did well but was always going to find it tough.
Fonguck as well breaks the lines very well and is willing to draw players out by running at defences. What you gain in Husin's nous and work rate you lose in Fonguck's ability to open up the play. Tricky decisions ahead, but nice ones.
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Strykr
Manager
I havent been back since my dad passed away and i dont live in southend anymore so it was quite an emotional one for me.
I loved being back tho and have really missed it.
Wrexham fans tried to ruin the national anthem was pretty scummy imo. I cannot imagine a scenario where i would visit another country and spoil their national anthem. What hapened to respect
Overall in terms of effort and endeavour they all get a 10 from me, and thats what got us the result, we made wrexham look bang average. The players all gave 100%. Refreshing after recent years so credit to them and the management trio.
The officiating was pub level. The ref gave the goal, if the lino disagreed it should have been instant, they were clearly swayed by wrexhams players which just shouldnt happen. As someone else eloquently put it, it was like VAR without cameras....
Mooney certainly is a handful, the creative spark in the side, and i liked the way maher and co switched him to the other flank midway through the first half to mix it up.
I liked seeing 2 up top,not sure what the formation was supposed to be, at times it seemed a 5 3 2. But having 2 out and out strikers felt right to me.
Hobson who ive been critical of in the past, was superb today, composed and assured with a good range of passing.
Lopata is clearly a cut above, and we look very solid with him playing. When you watch him, his positioning and awareness of whats going on around him keep him a step ahead of the game.
Colins kicking needs work but did the simple things well despite the lino being a pedantic *******.
I think hyde could be good for us once he develops some understanding with the rest of the squad
Dakkers won most of his headers and worked hard, he gave us a target to aim for.
Husin clearly has quality about him, he was a bit ropey to start imo, not everything panned out for him today but he seems to me the type of player who could be that kev maher type player, some composure and some bite and the nous to provide good dnistribution.
Ralph, im not as glowing as some of the others on here, but he does have some quality.
As others have said, if we can start scoring and winning i really think that mentality could spread through the team and being so solid at the back we could maybe approach a team in contention for the playoffs.
I loved being back tho and have really missed it.
Wrexham fans tried to ruin the national anthem was pretty scummy imo. I cannot imagine a scenario where i would visit another country and spoil their national anthem. What hapened to respect
Overall in terms of effort and endeavour they all get a 10 from me, and thats what got us the result, we made wrexham look bang average. The players all gave 100%. Refreshing after recent years so credit to them and the management trio.
The officiating was pub level. The ref gave the goal, if the lino disagreed it should have been instant, they were clearly swayed by wrexhams players which just shouldnt happen. As someone else eloquently put it, it was like VAR without cameras....
Mooney certainly is a handful, the creative spark in the side, and i liked the way maher and co switched him to the other flank midway through the first half to mix it up.
I liked seeing 2 up top,not sure what the formation was supposed to be, at times it seemed a 5 3 2. But having 2 out and out strikers felt right to me.
Hobson who ive been critical of in the past, was superb today, composed and assured with a good range of passing.
Lopata is clearly a cut above, and we look very solid with him playing. When you watch him, his positioning and awareness of whats going on around him keep him a step ahead of the game.
Colins kicking needs work but did the simple things well despite the lino being a pedantic *******.
I think hyde could be good for us once he develops some understanding with the rest of the squad
Dakkers won most of his headers and worked hard, he gave us a target to aim for.
Husin clearly has quality about him, he was a bit ropey to start imo, not everything panned out for him today but he seems to me the type of player who could be that kev maher type player, some composure and some bite and the nous to provide good dnistribution.
Ralph, im not as glowing as some of the others on here, but he does have some quality.
As others have said, if we can start scoring and winning i really think that mentality could spread through the team and being so solid at the back we could maybe approach a team in contention for the playoffs.
choggy
Coach
Retweeted by Chris Phillips...Parky got a get-out-of-jail-free card and he knows it.
Kev should tell the boys to surround and harass the ref every time a decision goes against us, referring is Sunday League level in this division.
Jai
President ⭐
Wrexham respected the silence perfectly. They were never going to respect the National anthem and who can blame them off the back of 100s of years of oppression by the English (who are of course famous for respecting national anthems). They were drowned out so let's call it honours even there.I havent been back since my dad passed away and i dont live in southend anymore so it was quite an emotional one for me.
I loved being back tho and have really missed it.
Wrexham fans tried to ruin the national anthem was pretty scummy imo. I cannot imagine a scenario where i would visit another country and spoil their national anthem. What hapened to respect
Overall in terms of effort and endeavour they all get a 10 from me, and thats what got us the result, we made wrexham look bang average. The players all gave 100%. Refreshing after recent years so credit to them and the management trio.
The officiating was pub level. The ref gave the goal, if the lino disagreed it should have been instant, they were clearly swayed by wrexhams players which just shouldnt happen. As someone else eloquently put it, it was like VAR without cameras....
Mooney certainly is a handful, the creative spark in the side, and i liked the way maher and co switched him to the other flank midway through the first half to mix it up.
I liked seeing 2 up top,not sure what the formation was supposed to be, at times it seemed a 5 3 2. But having 2 out and out strikers felt right to me.
Hobson who ive been critical of in the past, was superb today, composed and assured with a good range of passing.
Lopata is clearly a cut above, and we look very solid with him playing. When you watch him, his positioning and awareness of whats going on around him keep him a step ahead of the game.
Colins kicking needs work but did the simple things well despite the lino being a pedantic *******.
I think hyde could be good for us once he develops some understanding with the rest of the squad
Dakkers won most of his headers and worked hard, he gave us a target to aim for.
Husin clearly has quality about him, he was a bit ropey to start imo, not everything panned out for him today but he seems to me the type of player who could be that kev maher type player, some composure and some bite and the nous to provide good dnistribution.
Ralph, im not as glowing as some of the others on here, but he does have some quality.
As others have said, if we can start scoring and winning i really think that mentality could spread through the team and being so solid at the back we could maybe approach a team in contention for the playoffs.
You're absolutely spot on with everything else you've said. I was really pleased with the performance but really disappointed we didn't press it home.
bluesfansince1952
Newbie
I wrote this post late last night (Perth time) after referring to the National League table on the BBC website.
Looking at the same site this morning I now see that we have actually played four of the top five. Perhaps I should not post after midnight!
It is worthwhile looking at the individual results:
vs Boreham Wood (h) lost 0-1. First game of the season after making a number of new signings in the close season.
vs Solihull Moors (a) 1-1. Came back after conceding in the 12th minute. A solid performance.
vs Chesterfield (a) 2-3. Although many saw this as a disaster the fact remains we could have won, should have drawn and were perhaps unlucky to lose. And that was playing away to a team regarded as being one of the best in the competition, and, who today lead the league.
vs Wrexham (h) 0-0. Nothing to say as the game is fresh in all our memories.
Two of the other teams we have played so far sit in the top half of the Division (York 8th and Eastleigh 12th). Our other opponents have been Oldham (14th), Maidenhead (16th) and Torquay (20th).
Because of the background and age profile of the players I remain convinced that there is a lot of improvement in them and we will not see the team at its best until after Christmas.
We will be in contention by the end of the season.
wiggy
Darryl's Love Child
English teacher alert!
thenobster
Chief Punk
Always said this.. ‘we was robbed’ is ingrained in many a Southend supporter from birth.
londonblue
Topgun Pilot
I think Olly Palmer was close to suffocating he was so deep in Hobson's pocket.
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Stuart W
A word to the wise is enough
Largely agree, although you missed our draw at bottom four side Halifax and replaced them with York City who we have yet to play.
What time did you say you wrote this?
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