The Ghost of Xmas past

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Milliband and Hollande, of course I understand that it wasn't written in the last 20 minutes so will hold no credence but a interesting read all the same.

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-life-under-ed-miliband-warning-labour-leader

August this year is 5 years closer to current than your last attempt and is much better than our friend just posting 'oh come on' by way of explanation!
My fav quote in the article is 'Miliband is a smarter and more subtle politician than Hollande' - bless. Considering that the article is written by David Cameron's former scriptwriter it is good that he finds some nice things to say about Ed and that any bromance between the two of them ended a couple of years ago.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Worst for who? I don't see how it will make any difference to people who live in Spain.

You're right.It probably won't.It does tend to make you lot, look like a lot of uncouth, anti-Europeans,though.

Anyway, this is the year that Europe will be going left again.Starting with Greece and continuing with the PP's (Partido Popular) fall from power in Spain at the end of the year.

Labour's general election victory in May will fit nicely into that scenario.

The left is on the march in Europe.

 

[Benfleet A1]

No doubt Hollande's french ten plate will sit nicely with you as well for this rise of the left.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

No doubt Hollande's french ten plate will sit nicely with you as well for this rise of the left.

Interestingly,Hollande has had to do yet another U-turn.This time dropping the 75% supertax on the rich.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/31/france-drops-75percent-supertax

Pity but inevitable I suppose.

 

[Benfleet A1]

Cheer up, if Milliband and Balls get their way then the UK will be well on it's way to ruin within 6 months.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Cheer up, if Milliband and Balls get their way then the UK will be well on it's way to ruin within 6 months.

Well,Miliband has promised "to ensure the economic recovery is properly felt in people's pockets."

But I'm guessing that's not what you really mean. :smiles:


http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-30645707

 

[South Bank Hank]

Your right.It probably won't.


The left is on the march in Europe.

Ah, the irony. I didn't study Business English specifically but I'm guessing you're wrong?


:smile:



(Nice edit)

 

[steveo]

Your right. (Space here?)It probably won't. (Space here?)It does tend to make you lot, look like a lot of uncouth, anti-Europeans,though.

Uncouth? From a bloke who lives in a country where killing a bull on a Saturday night is considered art?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Uncouth? From a bloke who lives in a country where killing a bull on a Saturday night is considered art?

Never been much of an "aficionado" myself.

In any case, I think you'll find most bullfights still take place on a Sunday afternoon (as all football matches used too here).

 

[steveo]

Never been much of an "aficionado" myself.

In any case, I think you'll find most bullfights still take place on a Sunday afternoon (as all football matches used too here).

I see, so its less uncouth on a Sunday than a Saturday. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Never been much of an "aficionado" myself.

In any case, I think you'll find most bullfights still take place on a Sunday afternoon (as all football matches used too here).

Just to be clear (as there may be some agreement here and it seems a bit pointless to discuss disagreements when there potentionally are none) - do you agree or disagree with bullfighting?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Just to be clear (as there may be some agreement here and it seems a bit pointless to discuss disagreements when there potentionally are none) - do you agree or disagree with bullfighting?

As I said, I've never really been much of a fan.Though I did go to a few "corridas" -a long time ago now.

It should be recognised that bullfighting does however represent a part of Spain's cultural tradition (though certainly not here in Catalonia).

Can't say I'm in favour of an outright ban,personally.Though such a ban obviously wouldn't bother me,either.

However,If enough people just don't go (and that includes tourists who are the lifeblood of bullfighting outside of Madrid and Andalucia), then hopefully, it'll just wither away,of its own accord.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Lansley is tainted by the fact that the government backed his plans despite the fact that pretty much no one inside or outside of the medical profession knew what he was trying to do. I think he actually speaks quite well - just not a good idea to let him try to implement half backed ideas.
I agree that Gove will get airtime - as chief whip he needs to lead the line. He is however one of the most disliked men in politics, but is recognisable and all of the main parties seem to be in the same boat that very few of them are faces the public will recognise and through a lack of choice Gove will have to be seen.

In relation to this Hitman says 'nob muncher' - put here so as everyone can share in his input into this debate without having to check my profile.

 

[Benfleet A1]

What debate? It's gone from a Blair interview to Milliband and Hollande to Gove and Lansley, somehow onto bullfighting that the Plastic Commie still couldn't give a straight answer to and then onto Nob Munching which I'll pass if you don't mind. So where does this debate lie now?

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

What debate? It's gone from a Blair interview to Milliband and Hollande to Gove and Lansley, somehow onto bullfighting that the Plastic Commie still couldn't give a straight answer to and then onto Nob Munching which I'll pass if you don't mind. So where does this debate lie now?

'Nob muncher' was Hitman's input - I'm not exactly sure what he is referring to but if he posts again explaining his cryptic message maybe the thread will take an exciting new twist....

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

What debate? It's gone from a Blair interview to Milliband and Hollande to Gove and Lansley, somehow onto bullfighting that the Plastic Commie still couldn't give a straight answer to and then onto Nob Munching which I'll pass if you don't mind. So where does this debate lie now?

If you want a straight answer about bull fighting in Spain,personally, I'm "intensly relaxed" about it . :smile:

 

[Neil_F]

However,If enough people just don't go (and that includes tourists who are the lifeblood of bullfighting outside of Madrid and Andalucia), then hopefully, it'll just wither away,of its own accord.

So you're saying market forces are preferable to government intervention? What an interesting notion...

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

So you're saying market forces are preferable to government intervention? What an interesting notion...

Actually,I think I'm saying that I'm a liberal (note the lower-case L) on (most) social issues.

 

[number11]

As I said, I've never really been much of a fan.Though I did go to a few "corridas" -a long time ago now.

It should be recognised that bullfighting does however represent a part of Spain's cultural tradition (though certainly not here in Catalonia).

Can't say I'm in favour of an outright ban,personally.Though such a ban obviously wouldn't bother me,either.

However,If enough people just don't go (and that includes tourists who are the lifeblood of bullfighting outside of Madrid and Andalucia), then hopefully, it'll just wither away,of its own accord.

So you are not in favour of a ban on bull fighting, So for the record, how do you feel about fox hunting?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

So you are not in favour of a ban on bull fighting, So for the record, how do you feel about fox hunting?

I'm happy that it's illegal. :net:

As the divine Oscar said,foxhunting is:-"the unspeakable in full pursuit of the uneatable."

What do you think,for the record?