VOTE FOR NICKY NIC

[Spaceman Spiff]

Quote[/b] (Bucks_blue @ Jan. 14 2005,12:57)]Erm , having had a quick peek at the top 5 rankings they are currently:

Andy Kirk - Boston
Bart Griemink - SUFC
Lee Trundle - Swansea
Matthew Sparrow - Scunny
Nicky Nicolau - SUFC

Interesting.....

Bear in mind those are in alphabetical order (by Christian name)...

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Quote[/b] (Mad Cyril @ Jan. 14 2005,13:08)]Quite obviously the bigger clubs (of which we are one) in each division will draw more votes for their players than smaller ones.

I haven't seen a breakdown of the vote but I am willing to bet that there are very few votes from fans whos clubs players are not represented. Outside of the Premier$hite most fans have no knowledge of how well a members of other teams are playing.

I think that Southend also have an advantage in these polls because a lot of our fans have net acess as a consequence of working in the city and seem generally much more 'net savvy' than fans of some other teams. You only have to look at other teams message boards to see just how many southend fans their are online compared to some other teams.

Very true! I'm sure you're more or less right with those points - and the award is anything but scientific or fair... but that doesnt mean we shouldn't try to win it... in my opinion.

 

[Shrimp in a Kilt]

Quote[/b] (Mad Cyril @ Jan. 14 2005,13:08)]Voting is subjective, yes, I'm not going to argue with you there.

But consider the following:

Quite obviously the bigger clubs (of which we are one) in each division will draw more votes for their players than smaller ones.

I haven't seen a breakdown of the vote but I am willing to bet that there are very few votes from fans whos clubs players are not represented. Outside of the Premier$hite most fans have no knowledge of how well a members of other teams are playing.

I think that Southend also have an advantage in these polls because a lot of our fans have net acess as a consequence of working in the city and seem generally much more 'net savvy' than fans of some other teams. You only have to look at other teams message boards to see just how many southend fans their are online compared to some other teams.

All the points you make are entirely valid - but the problem lies with the way the PFA have constructed the poll. In fact there is nothing to stop people voting more than once, provided they can be bothered to register with a different e-mail address and name each time, so the whole thing is flawed.

However:

That isn't our fault, and we shouldn't let it stop us trying to win the poll for our player. As SpacemamSpiff says, it does mean something to the players, and so we should do our best to win it for them. If you don't approve, don't participate. Can't see fans from other clubs being any more ethical, mind you.

 

[Sandbach Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Spaceman Spiff @ Jan. 14 2005,10:14)]

Quote[/b] (shrimpboy @ Jan. 13 2005,19:34)]So much for freedon of vote.

(I voted for Edwards) Why are you all so bothered about this? By the end of the season most of the team will have won the award

a life collecting bins beckons...

Someone's got to do it

I don't think Nicolau deserves it anyway. Barrett and Bart did but apparently Nicolau was rubbish at Boston. Maybe he'll prove me wrong if Tilson keeps him in the side.

 

[sufcintheprem]

I understand objections to the voting system and, indeed, have raised similar points on this board.

True, this system is edging more towards one where the team with the most fans wins every month. True, there is no independent analyst who decides on who gets the award, so the player can not actually be considered the best player in the division for whatever month.

But, it took about a minute of my time. Frankly, it looks like if we are going to have any chance of going up, by automics or by playoffs, we're going to need any edge we can get over teams and if Nicolau's confidence is 2% higher, leading to 2% more effort beating a full back and putting crosses in. I'll happily take that rather than spending my valuable minute complaining about it.

 

[Shrimper2thecore]

More votes for Nicky after yesterday, come on,we owe it to our club!!!

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Is everyone still voting??

 

[BoyWonder2]

Can we have an update of the top 5

 

[Kent Shrimper]

Current Top 5

Coca-Cola Football League Two
Player Team
Bart Griemink Southend United Football Club
Jamie Brooks Oxford United Football Club
Lee Trundle Swansea City Football Club
Nicky Nicolau Southend United Football Club
Tommy Mooney Oxford United Football Club

 

[sufcintheprem]

Looks like Oxford may have cottoned on to this too...

 

[BoyWonder2]

I'd be more worried about Swansea, what with them only having one player in the top 5. Trundle will probably win it as it appears that both the Oxford and Southend United votes are divided.

 

[sufcintheprem]

surely no-one's voting for Griemink now he's injured though?!?!

 

[BoyWonder2]

You never know do you.

 

[Shrimper2thecore]

We should have a better base than Oxford, to the extent we can make sure Nicky gets it, surely everyone has now voted for Nicky