Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

[EastStandBlue]

Was prepared to cancel my membership this morning, but if Clive Lewis is indeed mounting a challenge I might hang around for a bit.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Was prepared to cancel my membership this morning, but if Clive Lewis is indeed mounting a challenge I might hang around for a bit.

Is he though? I'd expect him to be back in Labour's Shadow cabinet within 6 months but surely JC is unassailable at the moment?

 

[EastStandBlue]

Is he though? I'd expect him to be back in Labour's Shadow cabinet within 6 months but surely JC is unassailable at the moment?

Paul Waugh claimed earlier Lewis and supporters were discreetly calling other MPs late into last night.

 

[londonblue]

Was prepared to cancel my membership this morning, but if Clive Lewis is indeed mounting a challenge I might hang around for a bit.

I would cancel if I were you. You can always rejoin of the rumour turns out to be true.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Paul Waugh claimed earlier Lewis and supporters were discreetly calling other MPs late into last night.

Interesting.He'd better wait until after the next G/E before throwing his hat in the ring,IMO.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...misses-rumours-of-corbyn-leadership-challenge

"Fantasy politics." Thought this was interesting (and realistic).

 

[Benfleet A1]

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...misses-rumours-of-corbyn-leadership-challenge

"Fantasy politics." Thought this was interesting (and realistic).

'You can quote me on this, its total bollocks, he told the Eastern Daily Press'

I like straight talking but he might want to work on his soundbites a tad. :smile:

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

'You can quote me on this, its total bollocks, he told the Eastern Daily Press'

I like straight talking but he might want to work on his soundbites a tad. :smile:

He's young.Only been in Parliament two years.He'll learn.

Some Labour party activists I was talking to before Xmas saw him as a future PLP leader.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39016392

JC takes on Blair.

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39016392

JC takes on Blair.

Because Corbyn was and has always been anti european and wanted out of europe all along but was too gutless to say it out loud.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Because Corbyn was and has always been anti european and wanted out of europe all along but was too gutless to say it out loud.

May was and has always been pro european and wanted to stay in europe all along but was too gutless to say it out loud.

 

[RHB]

Because Corbyn was and has always been anti european and wanted out of europe all along but was too gutless to say it out loud.

May was and has always been pro european and wanted to stay in europe all along but was too gutless to say it out loud.

And yet both ended up as 'leaders' of their respective parties. Maybe gutless is a quality that works these days?

 

[superblue24]

May was and has always been pro european and wanted to stay in europe all along but was too gutless to say it out loud.

Ridiculous comment. May was a staunch Remain campaigner throughout the Brexit debate and was a big enough person to respect the vote and has set her course to be guided by the vote result.

corbyn on the other hand was barely on the campaign trail throughout and was "Mr Invisible" the whole time. He sat largely on the fence making neutral statements until he decided to (fairly) come out in support of Remain. Since May has been in power he has shown where his loyalties really laid all along.

if you're going to contribute to political discussion, make it somewhat factual.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Ridiculous comment. May was a staunch Remain campaigner throughout the Brexit debate and was a big enough person to respect the vote and has set her course to be guided by the vote result.

corbyn on the other hand was barely on the campaign trail throughout and was "Mr Invisible" the whole time. He sat largely on the fence making neutral statements until he decided to (fairly) come out in support of Remain. Since May has been in power he has shown where his loyalties really laid all along.

if you're going to contribute to political discussion, make it somewhat factual.

Are these "alternative facts" or something?

It's well known that Cameron's staff wanted Mrs May to take a much higher public profile in the remain campaign.

It's also a matter of record that Corbyn made a series of speeches up and down the country in favour of remain.

 

[superblue24]

Are these "alternative facts" or something?

It's well known that Cameron's staff wanted Mrs May to take a much higher public profile in the remain campaign.

It's also a matter of record that Corbyn made a series of speeches up and down the country in favour of remain.

Can you provide sources to back this up?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Can you provide sources to back this up?

Can you for your "alternative facts" ?

Since it's fairly well known that I read the Guardian/Observer and watch C4 news+Newsnight most days, along with the Daily Politics when I can, I guess they'd be my sources.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/25/brexit-books-david-cameron-theresa-may-party-split


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyn-really-give-122-8617013


Yours?

 

[callan]

Can you for your "alternative facts" ?

Since it's fairly well known that I read the Guardian/Observer and watch C4 news+Newsnight most days, along with the Daily Politics when I can, I guess they'd be my sources.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/25/brexit-books-david-cameron-theresa-may-party-split

Yours?

I have read articles in both the Independent + Guardian which suggests that Corbyns input in favour of Remain to be wanting.

I know he was on channel 4 scoring the EU 7 out of ten.

This link may give us some insight to his actual activity.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyn-really-give-122-8617013

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I have read articles in both the Independent + Guardian which suggests that Corbyns input in favour of Remain to be wanting.

I know he was on channel 4 scoring the EU 7 out of ten.

This link may give us some insight to his actual activity.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyn-really-give-122-8617013

As Shami Chakrabarti was saying on Marr yesterday, JC hasn't been given a fair shake by most of the print industry or the media in general.

 

[superblue24]

Can you for your "alternative facts" ?

Since it's fairly well known that I read the Guardian/Observer and watch C4 news+Newsnight most days, along with the Daily Politics when I can, I guess they'd be my sources.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/25/brexit-books-david-cameron-theresa-may-party-split


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyn-really-give-122-8617013


Yours?

Nice Googling there, but you googled your way into trouble on second link as the story backs up my argument. So I think I will take that link for myself thank you very much! 10 EU Rallies!

As for the first link, total hearsay. There is nothing in that article that provides any substantive evidence to your claim.

Like yourself, my politic experience comes from reading the BBC and various other sources (both sides of the political spectrum). At no point have I read or been led to believe that Theresa May had "always been in the Brexit camp", but I have seen numerous articles (which I am not retrieving links for) that suggest that Corbyn was not entirely behind his EU speeches. It also seems weird, does it not, that Corbyn, being the maverick that he is seems to be disciplining his MPs for voting against Brexit....Surely he would be enjoying seeing the waves?
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...corbyn-andrew-gwynne-labour-election-strategy

 

[superblue24]

As Shami Chakrabarti was saying on Marr yesterday, JC hasn't been given a fair shake by most of the print industry or the media in general.

#barnabluegetsitwrongain!