Simon Dobbin Verdicts

[Crowstone Crevette]

So why are people avoiding the Cambridge friendly. Sure the attack on Simone Dobbin should legally not excuse or mitigate a revenge attack on any Shrimpers. But we all know the rules of life and that's why people won't be going.

To claim one event has no bearing on another, especially when it comes to football, is dangerously naïve.

The police on the day decided to stand down at 19:00 because they thought job done with the idiots back on their coaches. What they should have done is gone into the Blue Boar and said right lads drink up because with all that has gone on today we are going to escort you to Southend Vic and put you on a train. As we don't want to risk any further trouble and for your own safety we don't want you walking past a pub that has been attacked several times today by those idiots who came on the coaches.........And no one would have ever heard of Simon Dobbin.

And how many would have cried that we live in a Nanny State?

 

[LennySUFC]

And how many would have cried that we live in a Nanny State?

A few, but surely that'd be better than a man who is now a vegetable, and 12 lads in prison...

 

[Mad Cyril]

The point you are absolutely failing to understand is an unofficial coach of hoolies isn't going to be phoning up Southend Bill and announce their arrival. So how would the police stop them coming. And it now seems it wasn't just a coach, they were on a train.

They must have been pretty easy to spot though by the police on the day - right?

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

They must have been pretty easy to spot though by the police on the day - right?

They were very easy to spot. I arrived at the Spread just after all the trouble. But there was a lot of them jumping about outside going crazy, about fifty I would say, some with very angry faces, with usual shouts of, ''COME ON THEN'' to us inside the Spread. The bouncers held some back that reached the door, and the police held the main bunch back. The hooligan coach was right outside the Spread, so they had been dropped off just outside. I was surprised the police allowed the coach driver to do that as it's part of the left hand lane and extremely busy with cars and buses.

 

[rigsby]

They must have been pretty easy to spot though by the police on the day - right?

Be interesting to see if Cambridge police sent their 'spotters' to Southend that day. I have certainly seen our police at away games. Even at places like Port Vale on a Friday night, where they had nothing to do so they stopped for a chat in the pub.

 

[Lord Football]

They must have been pretty easy to spot though by the police on the day - right?

Yeah, they all had FOOTBALL HOOLIGAN tattooed on their heads.

if they didn't I am not quite sure how they would be differentiated from any other middle aged football supporter until the point they started acting like a hooligan.

 

[Lord Football]

Be interesting to see if Cambridge police sent their 'spotters' to Southend that day. I have certainly seen our police at away games. Even at places like Port Vale on a Friday night, where they had nothing to do so they stopped for a chat in the pub.

I know they used to. I ended up on a Good Friday watching Tranmere v Cambridge and the Cambridge police were about. I know this because they kindly offered us a night in the cells on the basis they didn't know who we were......

 

[LennySUFC]

Yeah, they all had FOOTBALL HOOLIGAN tattooed on their heads.

if they didn't I am not quite sure how they would be differentiated from any other middle aged football supporter until the point they started acting like a hooligan.

You can tell who the "Lads" are by clothing etc. I dare say there were a few compasses on biceps as opposed to replica shirts with half & half scarves

 

[Benfleet A1]

Yeah, they all had FOOTBALL HOOLIGAN tattooed on their heads.

if they didn't I am not quite sure how they would be differentiated from any other middle aged football supporter until the point they started acting like a hooligan.

Clothing might have given it away. The prosecution was keen as mustard to use that in the trial. Not that it matters much now.

 

[Mad Cyril]

Yeah, they all had FOOTBALL HOOLIGAN tattooed on their heads.

if they didn't I am not quite sure how they would be differentiated from any other middle aged football supporter until the point they started acting like a hooligan.

Come on these people are hardly masters of disguise, men of a thousand faces.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

They must have been pretty easy to spot though by the police on the day - right?

I have nothing against bald men, but blimey, they gave them a bad name . But anyway, as you can see, it was their behaviour that gave them away that day.

[video=youtube;51AZ_ckWWHY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51AZ_ckWWHY[/video]

 

[AndyT]

I believe that footage was after the game. The coaches were parked there, as the police were trying to move them out of town asap.

My understanding is that these were the same people causing problems at The Railway, around 4:30pm.

 

[rigsby]

Yeah, they all had FOOTBALL HOOLIGAN tattooed on their heads.

if they didn't I am not quite sure how they would be differentiated from any other middle aged football supporter until the point they started acting like a hooligan.

You can tell who the "Lads" are by clothing etc. I dare say there were a few compasses on biceps as opposed to replica shirts with half & half scarves

As soon as I walked through the door of the Spread I could see their was a group of about 8 Cambridge on the corner of the bar. Why? because as Lenny says they were 50+ with Stone Island.

Now Lord who do you know from Southend in all you travels would fit that description.

By the time I had ordered my pint I could tell by their body language they were 'on alert'. I don't wear colours so by the time I got my pint one of them who stunk of booze and had the eyes of an inbred was in my face.

When a few faces arrived that I know (Herman and a Zone regular) I warned them to give ourselves a few paces.

I had never seen them before, never looked at hours of video or stills, no prior intelligence or no knowledge of this lots previous and their website etc. So tell me Lord if I could work out who they were and what was going to happen in about 3 minutes, then why couldn't the police.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

And, to a large extent they are the same tribe that are out in everytown too often; ffing and being unpleasantly mouthy; especially when in a group and having had a drop of lager, fag or snort.
We have more than a few in this town of ours and the video shows standard Police tactics, probably based on not having enough numbers to process them for the minor public order offences being committed.
The occasional "swamp" by Police and big handing out of penalty notices/arrests etc might be a deterrent and a statement of intent/welcome for future groups visiting town and club with mayhem in mind.

 

[Napster]

a statement of intent/welcome for future groups visiting town and club with mayhem in mind.

in my day it was Churchills.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Be interesting to see if Cambridge police sent their 'spotters' to Southend that day. I have certainly seen our police at away games. Even at places like Port Vale on a Friday night, where they had nothing to do so they stopped for a chat in the pub.

My cousin,DI Spooner,now retired,used to travel to away games with our fans as part of his duties.

 

[rigsby]

I have nothing against bald men, but blimey, they gave them a bad name . But anyway, as you can see, it was their behaviour that gave them away that day.

[video=youtube;51AZ_ckWWHY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51AZ_ckWWHY[/video]

If you freeze the clip at about 35/36 seconds you will see a second bald bloke with a light coloured Stone Island top , on the far right off the screen. The Bart Simpson look-alike

He was in the first group in the Spread and was one of the organisers. A 6 year old could spot him.

 

[Mad Cyril]

Steven Hawking tells it like it was:

[video=youtube;az9mkvgOvMg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az9mkvgOvMg[/video]

 

[LennySUFC]

Steven Hawking tells it like it was:

[video=youtube;az9mkvgOvMg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az9mkvgOvMg[/video]

"Southend United and Camrbidge United had drawn zero to zero" :hilarious:

 

[LCBB72]

If you freeze the clip at about 35/36 seconds you will see a second bald bloke with a light coloured Stone Island top , on the far right off the screen. The Bart Simpson look-alike

He was in the first group in the Spread and was one of the organisers. A 6 year old could spot him.

At 1 min 24 secs you see a Tony Livermore with a bobble hat on his head looking out the window , RIP Tony .