Official Match Thread Rochdale v Southend United

[Crabby Shrimper]

4 games in and I have no confidence in Brown whatsoever.

To be fair, you had no confidence in him before he'd managed a game for us

 

[amsemp]

Who is Pinnock on the bench?

Youth team lad. Heard very very good things about him :thumbsup:

 

[Clinton Baptiste]

4 games in and I have no confidence in Brown whatsoever.

And he will be expected to build a promotion-seeking team in the summer probably minus Tomlin and Clohessy. The problems this season- injuries, money problems, getting in loanees to cover inadequacies- will be the same next season. As Yorkshire Blue points out, why bother with the loanees. Leonard no worse than Reeves, Eastwood on the bench again despite Brown saying how much he admired him.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

No Tomlin in the starting XI interestingly

Not suprising, as he apparently was planning to use Wembley as an opportunity to put himself in the shop window,according to a Daily Mirror article last week.Poor show.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

He is only continuing the form we were already in though. Team selection was fine, bar the question of whether Tomlin was actually injured or not.

Cant really judge him until he is is able to make changes to the squad.

No new manager effect though is there? I'm keen to see who he brings in for next season but I'm feeling rather despondent right now. Never felt this way about a new manager before

 

[Neil 24]

Lucky really smith couple good saves. Corr done well maybe could of scored. Stayin positive.

 

[Murkey_Mouse]

What position does Pinnock play? I rather see us lose and see the positive of our young players make an postive impact, than losing with the same set of players who already used to losing!

 

[amsemp]

No new manager effect though is there? I'm keen to see who he brings in for next season but I'm feeling rather despondent right now. Never felt this way about a new manager before

Several 18 year old Wet Spam loanee's I'm guessing.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

Lucky really smith couple good saves. Corr done well maybe could of scored. Stayin positive.

On BBC Essex they say Smith lined his wall up wrongly for the goal

 

[Shrimper]

No new manager effect though is there? I'm keen to see who he brings in for next season but I'm feeling rather despondent right now. Never felt this way about a new manager before

I'm with you on this. I just don't feel enthusiastic with Brown - he doesn't have that ability about him to me.

 

[Jam_Man]

No new manager effect though is there? I'm keen to see who he brings in for next season but I'm feeling rather despondent right now. Never felt this way about a new manager before

Why should there be?

Theres not a magic wand that makes Brown come in and suddenly change the performance that an experienced manager like Sturrock was getting from the squad.

Dont get me wrong, I think Sturrock had to go but it was highly unlikely just bringing someone in would turn us from a team who had won 2 in about 11 to promotion challengers.

As you say, when he brings in his own players is when to judge him.

Right now the season is over and it might as well be a training game from here on in.

 

[Neil 24]

Wall did luck bit dodgy.

 

[amsemp]

What position does Pinnock play? I rather see us lose and see the positive of our young players make an postive impact, than losing with the same set of players who already used to losing!

Left wing I believe. Apparently an absolute natural talent and we're lucky to have him. I totally agree with you, let's play him. Let's throw Njie into the mix aswell and see what comes of it!

 

[davewebbsbrain]

Why should there be?

Theres not a magic wand that makes Brown come in and suddenly change the performance that an experienced manager like Sturrock was getting from the squad.

Dont get me wrong, I think Sturrock had to go but it was highly unlikely just bringing someone in would turn us from a team who had won 2 in about 11 to promotion challengers.

As you say, when he brings in his own players is when to judge him.

Right now the season is over and it might as well be a training game from here on in.

How many times have we played teams with a new manager and we have been well beaten? Loads of times. Why can't we do the same

 

[Shrimper]

Why should there be?

Theres not a magic wand that makes Brown come in and suddenly change the performance that an experienced manager like Sturrock was getting from the squad.

Dont get me wrong, I think Sturrock had to go but it was highly unlikely just bringing someone in would turn us from a team who had won 2 in about 11 to promotion challengers.

As you say, when he brings in his own players is when to judge him.

Right now the season is over and it might as well be a training game from here on in.

Normally when a manager comes in though the players want to do well to book a place in the first team. I've seen very little of this so far. But I am willing to give Brown next season but I don't hold out hope of promotion.

 

[Jimmych]

We're losing so the subs are getting ready for the second half by playing keepy uppies and occasionally flicking each other's ears.

 

[Jam_Man]

Normally when a manager comes in though the players want to do well to book a place in the first team. I've seen very little of this so far. But I am willing to give Brown next season but I don't hold out hope of promotion.

Normally or sometimes ?

Col U did ok for a couple of games when Dunne came in then went on a massive losing run. Hasnt exactly helped them.

Theres trying to do well and actually being able to completely transform into a good team though.

It woud be rather insulting to Sturrock if they had actually suddenly turned into world beaters and personally I never expected any massive improvement.

 

[Lester Bangs]

Why should there be?

Theres not a magic wand that makes Brown come in and suddenly change the performance that an experienced manager like Sturrock was getting from the squad.

Eh? Generally players step up when a new manager joins to get noticed. You've really never heard of a team going through a purple patch when a new manager joins?

 

[leeblue]

we were poor before brown arrived I think it's just a case that theplayers are not good enough. let brown build his own team and judge from there

 

[Shrimper]

Normally or sometimes ?

Theres trying to do well and actually being able to completely transform into a good team though.

It woud be rather insulting to Sturrock if they had actually suddenly turned into world beaters and personally I never expected any massive improvement.

I'm not necessarily saying this would shown in winning games but we've not looked that good in any of our games. We blew a 2-0 lead against Bradford, were a little fortunate to get a draw against Fleetwood and were poor against Crewe.