Ref Watch ......... Port Vale

[South Bucks Shrimper]

I believe the 6 seonds rule is no longer there, I'm sure other more qualified people will soon advise.......

Yes that was withdrawn a couple of seasons ago so the ref (who had the best performance we have seen for a long time) did know what he was doing. Unlike a lot of refs in the stand.

Law 12: "Indirect free kick An indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a goalkeeper, inside his own penalty area, commits any of the following four offences:

• controls the ball with his hands for more than six seconds before releasing it from his possession
• touches the ball again with his hands after he has released it from his possession and before it has touched another player
• touches the ball with his hands after it has been deliberately kicked to him by a team-mate
• touches the ball with his hands after he has received it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules...ball-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct.aspx

It has not be withdrawn. Most refs just choose to ignore it.

 

[Lord Football]

I believe the 6 seonds rule is no longer there, I'm sure other more qualified people will soon advise.......

Quite correct. There is no rule about 6 seconds. There is also no offside rule, no handball rule, no rules about goals.

THEY ARE LAWS!!!!!! :)

However, Law 12 still there, and still refers to what you call "the six second rule". Thing is... when was the last time you saw it applied? I've never applied it.

 

[A Century United]

Quite correct. There is no rule about 6 seconds. There is also no offside rule, no handball rule, no rules about goals.

THEY ARE LAWS!!!!!! :)

However, Law 12 still there, and still refers to what you call "the six second rule". Thing is... when was the last time you saw it applied? I've never applied it.

Agreed, a Law usually honoured in the breach. However if a Goalkeeper starts to take overlong, in an effort to slow down the game, would you not warn him to hurry up at least?

 

[FD Shrimper]

So if the 6 second LAW is still there why isn't it applied ?

 

[Lord Football]

There are plenty of cases when Law isn't applied. How many foul throws do you see in a game, for example.

My view is fairly simplistic. If the Law is there for the benefit of the game, it should be applied.

For example, I don't give foul throws unless its a really, really poor one. If I did, the game would be a constant stream of retaken throws. No one enjoys that, no one wants to see that.

The six second rule is really there to stop obvious and persistent time wasting. It's not used by anyone at any level of the game. But then again, how often do you see a goalkeeper actually hold the ball for six seconds? The other difficulty with it is really when to apply it. The referee is not going to look at his watch everytime the keeper claps his hands on the ball nor is going to count - he has far too much to think about than that. By the time you start to think "get on with it", the keeper in most cases is in the process of getting rid of the ball. And goalkeepers know this. So, its pretty much unenforceable.

What I would like to see however, is something introduced that speeds up dead ball time. It really only takes a matter of seconds for the ball boy to give the ball to the keeper, the keeper to place it and then kick it. What you actually get is the slow walk across the six yard area to take it from the other side, the long protracted run up (usually involving the keeper banging his toes into the turf), some pointing at team mates, a look around the ground and then he finally starts his run. It kills time, and kills momentum and in my opinion is far more annoying that the keeper holding onto the ball for a few additional seconds.

Oh, and I'd also like to see substitutes banned in the last 5 minutes unless a player is injured.

 

[FD Shrimper]

would that be from the 85th min or does it include time added on ?

 

[Pubey]

What about a stop clock like in rugby?

 

[dannypav]

There are plenty of cases when Law isn't applied. How many foul throws do you see in a game, for example.

My view is fairly simplistic. If the Law is there for the benefit of the game, it should be applied.

For example, I don't give foul throws unless its a really, really poor one. If I did, the game would be a constant stream of retaken throws. No one enjoys that, no one wants to see that.

The six second rule is really there to stop obvious and persistent time wasting. It's not used by anyone at any level of the game. But then again, how often do you see a goalkeeper actually hold the ball for six seconds? The other difficulty with it is really when to apply it. The referee is not going to look at his watch everytime the keeper claps his hands on the ball nor is going to count - he has far too much to think about than that. By the time you start to think "get on with it", the keeper in most cases is in the process of getting rid of the ball. And goalkeepers know this. So, its pretty much unenforceable.

What I would like to see however, is something introduced that speeds up dead ball time. It really only takes a matter of seconds for the ball boy to give the ball to the keeper, the keeper to place it and then kick it. What you actually get is the slow walk across the six yard area to take it from the other side, the long protracted run up (usually involving the keeper banging his toes into the turf), some pointing at team mates, a look around the ground and then he finally starts his run. It kills time, and kills momentum and in my opinion is far more annoying that the keeper holding onto the ball for a few additional seconds.

Oh, and I'd also like to see substitutes banned in the last 5 minutes unless a player is injured.

Fully agree , and think that would be excellent if it could be enforced.
But I guess it would just increase the number of 'fake' injuries in the last 5 minutes.........

 

[A Century United]

would that be from the 85th min or does it include time added on ?

Exactly. Official time keeper so the ref has less to worry about.

Also, can we send officials, players and especially idiot commentators* on a course so they can learn what "WHOLE of the ball over the WHOLE of the line" means, including exercises to illustrate the effects of parallax?

*Alan Green excluded on the grounds that he is too stupid to understand such a difficult concept.

 

[Pubey]

Exactly. Official time keeper so the ref has less to worry about.

Also, can we send officials, players and especially idiot commentators* on a course so they can learn what "WHOLE of the ball over the WHOLE of the line" means, including exercises to illustrate the effects of parallax?

*Alan Green excluded on the grounds that he is to stupid to understand such a difficult concept.

And also that handball has to be deliberate, and contact =/= foul.