2 murders by racist thugs !!!

[duncan bulgaria]

Seems you're correct there, here's the link
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/local_news/castlepoint/3810348.Man_murdered_on_Halloween/

Just read the link , can't say i know the guy although i do drink in the Hoy so may of seen him before , obviously a very popular fella by some of the comments left on the site .......very sad indeed .

 

[Desert Shrimper]

morning DS ,no opinion either on the subject?

What was your point again? :zzzzz:

 

[graysblue]

With all due respect, being one of the "usual suspects" is not a phrase that's usually applied to me (unless we're talking cliques, which we're not here!). I'm just trying to get you to understand how tedious the same arguments are becoming over and over again with slightly different packaging each time.

my jibe was NOT aimed at you

 

[OldBlueLady]

my jibe was NOT aimed at you

No, but do you understand why people react the way they do over your posts?

 

[Einstein]

With all due respect, being one of the "usual suspects" is not a phrase that's usually applied to me (unless we're talking cliques, which we're not here!). I'm just trying to get you to understand how tedious the same arguments are becoming over and over again with slightly different packaging each time.

Tedious, that was the word I was looking for.

 

[graysblue]

No, but do you understand why people react the way they do over your posts?

they are free to react in any way they wish,however i try not to become personal whilst others can only respond in that manner whilst of course avoiding the actual content.

if memory serves me correct there have been approx 10 posters who have reacted in the above fashion .

 

[graysblue]

Tedious, that was the word I was looking for.

if you actually believe your statement...................why read my threads.

 

[Desert Shrimper]

The British National Party were accused by Scotland's First Minister and Labour Party MSP Jack McConnell among others of seeking to exploit the case for political advantage, and an open letter signed by some prominent individuals, including MSPs, trades unionists, and community leaders condemned the BNP's plans to stage a visit to Pollokshields. The group did hold a rally in the area, leading to accusations that it was fuelling racial tension and exploiting a tragic death for political capital. [8]

The Leftist Website "Spiked" continues to doubt that the murder was racially motivated or that significant ethnic tensions exist in Pollokshields.[13],although the killers were shown in Court to have made racist statements prior to the murder.

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Some interesting comments about the Kris Donald murder case there. Once again your view is very similar to that of the BNP by the looks if it, graysblue. You should visit their website and post on the forum as I think you'd get along really well with some of their voters, many of whom would have to the same outlook on life as you. Maybe Millwall would make a good second team too?

 

[OldBlueLady]

Tedious, that was the word I was looking for.

Pleased to help.

GB, unless you can realise the effect of these posts you are just going to end up getting yourself more and more steamed up over it. It isn't that people don't care, it's that we are not quite so judgmental and are more willing to look at things in a more rational way.

There mods, be proud of the fact that I AM learning!

 

[graysblue]

The British National Party were accused by Scotland's First Minister and Labour Party MSP Jack McConnell among others of seeking to exploit the case for political advantage, and an open letter signed by some prominent individuals, including MSPs, trades unionists, and community leaders condemned the BNP's plans to stage a visit to Pollokshields. The group did hold a rally in the area, leading to accusations that it was fuelling racial tension and exploiting a tragic death for political capital. [8]

The Leftist Website "Spiked" continues to doubt that the murder was racially motivated or that significant ethnic tensions exist in Pollokshields.[13],although the killers were shown in Court to have made racist statements prior to the murder.

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Some interesting comments about the Kris Donald murder case there. Once again your view is very similar to that of the BNP by the looks if it, graysblue. You should visit their website and post on their forum as I think you'd get along really well with some of their voters, many of whom would have to the same outlook on life as you. Maybe Millwall would make a good second team too?

did you compare the cases? and what was your conclusion?

 

[Nobby Snide]

we all only know what we choose to learn,i have never ever stated i am an expert.

i find it interesting the usual suspects would rather have a pop at me than discuss the thread.

I prefer the term 'Unusual suspect'

 

[graysblue]

I prefer the term 'Unusual suspect'

morning spanish

what do you reckon

 

[Nobby Snide]

all rascism is bad...end of...please change the record, the song is boring now

 

[graysblue]

all rascism is bad...end of...please change the record, the song is boring now

agreed all racists are narrowminded.

i thought this thread would be interesting to discuss in an adult fashion,i was sadly mistaken.

the debate regarding race is powerful and is one if not the major topic of conversation in pub/clubs and most places,either for or against it always interests me to hear or learn different aspects.

maybe i was wrong to expect debate in the "pub" and if any of you have taken offence i cannot think why.

 

[Desert Shrimper]

A large part of the controversy with the Lawrence case was in it's police handling and the eventual outcome: i.e. nothing. A young man waiting at a bus stop is stabbed to death, everyone knows locally who did it and yet not one of his killers is ever convicted. Seeing as it appears that the authorities in both Britain and Pakistan worked well together to secure convictions in the Donald case, it's pretty obvious why there isn't quite as much scandal to be had for the media, although of course the tragedies are the same.

I don't see anything more to it than that...but then again I don't share your view on life.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

agreed all racists are narrowminded.

i thought this thread would be interesting to discuss in an adult fashion,i was sadly mistaken.

the debate regarding race is powerful and is one if not the major topic of conversation in pub/clubs and most places,either for or against it always interests me to hear or learn different aspects.

maybe i was wrong to expect debate in the "pub" and if any of you have taken offence i cannot think why.

Quite often, foreign citizens are murdered by thier own in Britain and no real deal is made of it...If a foreign citizen is murdered by a White British national, there is racism touted all over it, but if a White british national is murdered by a foreign citizen, there is rarely, if at all, a racist motivation for the murder....

Funny that!!

 

[sufcintheprem]

Quite often, foreign citizens are murdered by thier own in Britain and no real deal is made of it...If a foreign citizen is murdered by a White British national, there is racism touted all over it, but if a White british national is murdered by a foreign citizen, there is rarely, if at all, a racist motivation for the murder....

Funny that!!

Do you have any examples of these?

 

[davewebbsbrain]

Do you have any examples of these?

Just look in the papers, if you are really interested!

 

[Hotman]

Do you have any examples of these?

Of course not, they are not publicised!!!! :)

 

[sufcintheprem]

Just look in the papers, if you are really interested!

Well, I look in a lot of papers (although not as many as I'd like) and I haven't seen these things.