Backroom Staff Salary Issues

[JAL]

Blues are in a PR storm! They roll out SVC. What’s the next trick up your sleeve?

Sorry but it’s boring now! YOU called for protests! YOU told us not to stop! But this stuff carries on happening! Well played Sir!

When will people like you get it in their heads that it has nothing to do with SVC, and all he has done is contribute to the recruitment of this team so far?

He has absolutely nothing to do with the payment of staff, get.it.in.your.head.

Just because you have a personal agenda against him, he has nothing to do with this conversation, people asked him if he had been paid so far, he responded, that's it.

 

[BirminghamBlue]

Why is Stan getting heat for the non payment of staff? Am I missing something here? Ron is the man with the £, the buck stops there. What does any of this have to do with him?

 

[CRATE]

When will people like you get it in their heads that it has nothing to do with SVC, and all he has done is contribute to the recruitment of this team so far?

He has absolutely nothing to do with the payment of staff, get.it.in.your.head.

Just because you have a personal agenda against him, he has nothing to do with this conversation, people asked him if he had been paid so far, he responded, that's it.

No personal agenda. Just a fact that 9x out of 10 we get a response when the clubs in a PR mess

 

[Jasrod]

The potential for this club is currently the best it has ever been because the structure is right and proper in the football department. If we lose this then the future will be very grim. If there is anything to hold on to the football department currently is it.

 

[Jasrod]

No personal agenda. Just a fact that 9x out of 10 we get a response when the clubs in a PR mess

And before Stan we got nothing so what is your point??

 

[Holy Joe]

Does anyone now how much staff wages actually need paying if so can they message me as I may be able to help in short term through my own company

I wrote this in a Staff not paid thread in July. Figures are from 2019, and a few assumptions have been made - but ball park numbers....

I would've thought it could easily get into tens of thousands per month. You only need 10 employees on 24k a year and your salary bill is 20k per month, then add on national insurance and other employment costs

Just checked last accounts - bit out of date YE July 2019 - but we had an monthly average of 150 employees of which 54 were 'Establishment and ground maintenance' - the other categories being playing, training and coaching (91) and directors (5). Salaries were £5.7m per year, total employment costs £6.2m. I'd expect the playing budget to be the vast majority of this - but say 10% is admin - that's £570k per year - a little over £10k per employee (not sure if the 54 is full time equivalent or actual number including part time) - if it was more like £20k (assuming full time) then that's £1m per year - so somewhere between £45k and £90k per month.

We made pension contribution of £18k for the year for admin and support employees. If the club pays say 3% of salary into pension scheme then that implies a wage bill of £600k per year for admin and support - or £50k per month.

So yep monthly wage bill likely to be in the tens of thousands of pounds.

 

[hlane17]

There is only one individual people should be going after right now and it's not SVC, Tom Lawrence or any of the other Southend office staff.

Find it quite shocking some cannot bring themselves to criticise Ron.

 

[Tinks]

This is really quite disappointing and sad to read especially given that things have improved on the pitch.
We all know that it is ALL staff involved that keeps this club going not just players and managers and without the back room staff we will have no club.
My sympathy goes to them as no doubt they all have rents/mortgages, bills etc. to pay and this is on top on the increase cost of living. They all also have families to support.

Let's not single people out (bar one person of course) as most who work there are hardworking and probably give more than they take but, I think we all know and have known for a long time we are walking a very thing line.

Something does need to be done but I am unsure what. Wha I do know though is that a certain person will be able to have their heating on this winter or have food in their cupboards!

This club does not deserve this nor do the staff or the supporters who have continued to support.

 

[thenobster]

on another point, if the staff arn't paid, are we liable to any points deduction under any sustainability clause?

 

[TrueBlue]

I Give up with this club I really do, I don’t have the energy for another fight going round in circles.
Count me out

 

[united we stand]

It’s very painful as the truth ( that many don’t like to admit) is if he hasn’t got the money he hasn’t got the money. If he can access funds and is choosing not to that’s a totally different matter and protests of some description will help.

I have no concept of his finances but the cost of living crisis/ energy crisis/ higher interest rates affect almost every one

Sometimes “bad news” can galvanise and bring people together, but Ron clearly doesn’t have that skill. Paying people “extra” when they are paid late is a great PR idea, but in reality it just means the limited money runs out even quicker.

It would be interesting to know if the issues are that our cash flow forecasts were incorrect, possibly owning to the above or if he is not supplying funds he has promised.

The reality is even if we know the answers to the above I’m not sure how it helps.

I think we all want to “do something “ but We don’t know what that”something “ is

If he wasn’t such a tosser then many might be prepared to lend money to the club, rather than buy the club. But the reality is who would trust him to get their money back?

Very depressing-again
My sincere sympathies to those members of staff impacted and their families and indeed to all staff, as morale must be poor.

 

[JAL]

No personal agenda. Just a fact that 9x out of 10 we get a response when the clubs in a PR mess

If you're going to come in with an extremely weak argument, at least make it make sense.

 

[Chrisb]

If he wasn’t such a tosser then many might be prepared to lend money to the club, rather than buy the club. But the reality is who would trust him to get their money back?

Very depressing-again
My sincere sympathies to those members of staff impacted and their families and indeed to all staff, as morale must be poor.

Exactly this.

 

[JWShrimper]

I Give up with this club I really do, I don’t have the energy for another fight going round in circles.
Count me out

I understand, it’s difficult, but you do some great stuff and the effort isn’t unnoticed with fans.

 

[Rayleigh boy]

Can we afford rent when we can’t afford to pay the club shop staff?

RM cant afford it - he is bust ,,,, a properly run club could afford it - no problem

 

[pottster]

Does anyone remember when going watch the football at southend used to be fun and we didnt have all this rubbish going on. How long is this going to go on for? It's never been easy but not paying peoples wages is too much. I'm starting to fall out of love with the club. The staff deserve better and do we

 

[brigg blue]

Is this a symptom of being a professional club carrying a league club structure into non-league?

As has been mentioned before Wrexham have made some of their former volunteers into paid employees, if the clubs pockets aren't deep enough should we look at going the other way.

In fact would we as a fan base be happy if me became a semi professional outfit to become sustainable?

 

[JAL]

Is this a symptom of being a professional club carrying a league club structure into non-league?

As has been mentioned before Wrexham have made some of their former volunteers into paid employees, if the clubs pockets aren't deep enough should we look at going the other way.

In fact would we as a fan base be happy if me became a semi professional outfit to become sustainable?

Becoming a semi-professional team will either double the amount of time we'll be in this league, or increase the risk of going down rather than anywhere near the top.

 

[Strykr]

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Is this a symptom of being a professional club carrying a league club structure into non-league?

As has been mentioned before Wrexham have made some of their former volunteers into paid employees, if the clubs pockets aren't deep enough should we look at going the other way.

In fact would we as a fan base be happy if me became a semi professional outfit to become sustainable?

Its a symptom of a conman horribly out of his depth.

 

[Maldon Shrimper]

Club statement now published