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Fans returning to stadiums put on hold.

Things I don't understand.....

As some of you know I do like a groundhop. So I am using this period to visit some of our neighbours further down the pyramid.

I am failing to understand what the difference is between Roots Hall, where you buy a seat that is identified as meeting social distancing requirement and, say, Brighlingsea where you can sit in a stand that has seats taped off BUT can also congregate behind a goal (as Margate fans did). At Roots Hall you have many alternative exits, at all the grounds I've been to so far you have one or two.

So, surely if it is safe for 300 people to rock up to Harlow, then surely it is safe for 1200 of us to do the same at Roots Hall.
 
Excellent letter to our "prime minister" from Colchester's owner:

Colchester United Chairman Robbie Cowling has issued the following open letter to Prime Minister Boris Johnson:

Dear Boris

I wrote to Colchester United’s local MP, Will Quince, exactly two weeks ago to explain the extraordinary lengths we were going to so that we can get paying supporters back into our stadium.


I provided him with a link, which you can read by clicking here, which is to an article I wrote for our supporters detailing the changes we have made for their safe return. These include changes to:

1. Our ticketing system which we have had to completely revamp.
2. Our seating areas where we have removed 1800 seats just so that we can ensure no fan has to even brush past another unless they are in the same support bubble.
3. The areas that surround our stadium to provide additional space and ensure attendees can move around the stadium whilst complying with the social distancing requirements.

The main reason for that letter to Will Quince was to request that the alcohol restrictions are lifted whilst we are only allowing home supporters into our stadium because we could see how that would increase safety even further.

Therefore, I’m sure you can imagine how devastated I was yesterday to hear that you have taken a broad brush approach which has rendered all of that work in vain and has stopped us from doing the one fundamental thing that all businesses need to do and that is trade.

Whilst working towards the return of our fans, we have totally understood the need for safety and we have taken all of the measures required to ensure our stadium is safe

However, with this one decision you have not only threatened the livelihoods of the staff at Colchester United and the local businesses that rely on our club, and not only those staff and local businesses of every other football club in the EFL, but those of every club across every sport in the UK.

I appreciate you must be very busy and you are having to make very difficult decisions but this was one area where you didn’t need to do a thing because we had it all under control and everything is in place to allow professional clubs to open safely.

As a professional football club, we are compelled to comply with the regulations, guidance and measures of the Sports Ground Safety Authority and we can’t open our stadiums unless a Safety Advisory Group, (SAG), made up of relevant representatives including medical professionals certify us as being safe.

The SAG use their expertise to determine on a club by club basis if our stadiums are fit to open our gates to the public and how many of the public are safe to attend.

This process hasn’t just been introduced during the pandemic, it has been in place for all of the fourteen years that I have owned a football club. It’s the responsible way in which we operate our stadiums at all times.

The SAGs understand the risk that COVID-19 represents and they have detailed knowledge of each and every professional football stadium in the UK.

They can determine at what levels those stadiums can operate safely. There is absolutely no reason for the Government to apply a rule that rides roughshod over the expertise of the SAGs.

It astounds me that a Government that introduces a ‘Whack a Mole’ approach to locking down those areas that represent a higher risk can’t introduce a system that recognises areas where the risk is much lower.

I suggest your Government quickly returns the responsibility for deciding how many attendees I can have at Colchester United fixtures from October to the Safety Advisory Groups because they have experience in these specific matters and know exactly what they are doing.

However, just so I understand it when I’m having to lay off even more staff, can someone explain to me again how I can safely sit in a confined aeroplane with 300 other passengers and I can safely eat inside a restaurant or drink inside a pub until 10pm but I can’t safely attend a football match which is predominately outside and has been certificated as safe by a SAG?

Robbie Cowling – Chairman, Colchester United Football Club
 
Excellent letter to our "prime minister" from Colchester's owner:

Colchester United Chairman Robbie Cowling has issued the following open letter to Prime Minister Boris Johnson:

Dear Boris

I wrote to Colchester United’s local MP, Will Quince, exactly two weeks ago to explain the extraordinary lengths we were going to so that we can get paying supporters back into our stadium.


I provided him with a link, which you can read by clicking here, which is to an article I wrote for our supporters detailing the changes we have made for their safe return. These include changes to:

1. Our ticketing system which we have had to completely revamp.
2. Our seating areas where we have removed 1800 seats just so that we can ensure no fan has to even brush past another unless they are in the same support bubble.
3. The areas that surround our stadium to provide additional space and ensure attendees can move around the stadium whilst complying with the social distancing requirements.

The main reason for that letter to Will Quince was to request that the alcohol restrictions are lifted whilst we are only allowing home supporters into our stadium because we could see how that would increase safety even further.

Therefore, I’m sure you can imagine how devastated I was yesterday to hear that you have taken a broad brush approach which has rendered all of that work in vain and has stopped us from doing the one fundamental thing that all businesses need to do and that is trade.

Whilst working towards the return of our fans, we have totally understood the need for safety and we have taken all of the measures required to ensure our stadium is safe

However, with this one decision you have not only threatened the livelihoods of the staff at Colchester United and the local businesses that rely on our club, and not only those staff and local businesses of every other football club in the EFL, but those of every club across every sport in the UK.

I appreciate you must be very busy and you are having to make very difficult decisions but this was one area where you didn’t need to do a thing because we had it all under control and everything is in place to allow professional clubs to open safely.

As a professional football club, we are compelled to comply with the regulations, guidance and measures of the Sports Ground Safety Authority and we can’t open our stadiums unless a Safety Advisory Group, (SAG), made up of relevant representatives including medical professionals certify us as being safe.

The SAG use their expertise to determine on a club by club basis if our stadiums are fit to open our gates to the public and how many of the public are safe to attend.

This process hasn’t just been introduced during the pandemic, it has been in place for all of the fourteen years that I have owned a football club. It’s the responsible way in which we operate our stadiums at all times.

The SAGs understand the risk that COVID-19 represents and they have detailed knowledge of each and every professional football stadium in the UK.

They can determine at what levels those stadiums can operate safely. There is absolutely no reason for the Government to apply a rule that rides roughshod over the expertise of the SAGs.

It astounds me that a Government that introduces a ‘Whack a Mole’ approach to locking down those areas that represent a higher risk can’t introduce a system that recognises areas where the risk is much lower.

I suggest your Government quickly returns the responsibility for deciding how many attendees I can have at Colchester United fixtures from October to the Safety Advisory Groups because they have experience in these specific matters and know exactly what they are doing.

However, just so I understand it when I’m having to lay off even more staff, can someone explain to me again how I can safely sit in a confined aeroplane with 300 other passengers and I can safely eat inside a restaurant or drink inside a pub until 10pm but I can’t safely attend a football match which is predominately outside and has been certificated as safe by a SAG?

Robbie Cowling – Chairman, Colchester United Football Club
Can't really argue with any of that
 
I noticed that the Arsenal v Liverpool game next Monday kicks off at 20:15.
Does that mean fans can go to the pub to watch but will be kicked out at 22:00 as the game enters ‘added time’ ?
Not totally related but just amused me.

In reply to my own post - kick off time now brought forward for that very reason
 
Excellent letter to our "prime minister" from Colchester's owner:

Colchester United Chairman Robbie Cowling has issued the following open letter to Prime Minister Boris Johnson:

Dear Boris

I wrote to Colchester United’s local MP, Will Quince, exactly two weeks ago to explain the extraordinary lengths we were going to so that we can get paying supporters back into our stadium.


I provided him with a link, which you can read by clicking here, which is to an article I wrote for our supporters detailing the changes we have made for their safe return. These include changes to:

1. Our ticketing system which we have had to completely revamp.
2. Our seating areas where we have removed 1800 seats just so that we can ensure no fan has to even brush past another unless they are in the same support bubble.
3. The areas that surround our stadium to provide additional space and ensure attendees can move around the stadium whilst complying with the social distancing requirements.

The main reason for that letter to Will Quince was to request that the alcohol restrictions are lifted whilst we are only allowing home supporters into our stadium because we could see how that would increase safety even further.

Therefore, I’m sure you can imagine how devastated I was yesterday to hear that you have taken a broad brush approach which has rendered all of that work in vain and has stopped us from doing the one fundamental thing that all businesses need to do and that is trade.

Whilst working towards the return of our fans, we have totally understood the need for safety and we have taken all of the measures required to ensure our stadium is safe

However, with this one decision you have not only threatened the livelihoods of the staff at Colchester United and the local businesses that rely on our club, and not only those staff and local businesses of every other football club in the EFL, but those of every club across every sport in the UK.

I appreciate you must be very busy and you are having to make very difficult decisions but this was one area where you didn’t need to do a thing because we had it all under control and everything is in place to allow professional clubs to open safely.

As a professional football club, we are compelled to comply with the regulations, guidance and measures of the Sports Ground Safety Authority and we can’t open our stadiums unless a Safety Advisory Group, (SAG), made up of relevant representatives including medical professionals certify us as being safe.

The SAG use their expertise to determine on a club by club basis if our stadiums are fit to open our gates to the public and how many of the public are safe to attend.

This process hasn’t just been introduced during the pandemic, it has been in place for all of the fourteen years that I have owned a football club. It’s the responsible way in which we operate our stadiums at all times.

The SAGs understand the risk that COVID-19 represents and they have detailed knowledge of each and every professional football stadium in the UK.

They can determine at what levels those stadiums can operate safely. There is absolutely no reason for the Government to apply a rule that rides roughshod over the expertise of the SAGs.

It astounds me that a Government that introduces a ‘Whack a Mole’ approach to locking down those areas that represent a higher risk can’t introduce a system that recognises areas where the risk is much lower.

I suggest your Government quickly returns the responsibility for deciding how many attendees I can have at Colchester United fixtures from October to the Safety Advisory Groups because they have experience in these specific matters and know exactly what they are doing.

However, just so I understand it when I’m having to lay off even more staff, can someone explain to me again how I can safely sit in a confined aeroplane with 300 other passengers and I can safely eat inside a restaurant or drink inside a pub until 10pm but I can’t safely attend a football match which is predominately outside and has been certificated as safe by a SAG?

Robbie Cowling – Chairman, Colchester United Football Club
Excellent letter, he is absolutely correct and of course u-turns are far from infrequent shall we say. Hope he read it. Suspect he didn't.
 
Who in there right mind actually wants to go and watch football in a ground with hardly any supporters and therefore zero atmosphere ? This season should be abandoned now , in fact it should never have even started.
 
Who in there right mind actually wants to go and watch football in a ground with hardly any supporters and therefore zero atmosphere ? This season should be abandoned now , in fact it should never have even started.
Hmmm, I don't think you want to be insulting but I am of sound mind and would want to be watching the sport in a ground with hardly any supporters. Hence I go to trophy games and in the past reserve fixtures. Heck I often watch footie over Priory Park.
 
The evil, murdering bastards!

But don't you worry, after Boris' announcement today it seems that it won't be too long before units of the Paras are deployed to a supermarket near you to force masks on everyone at gun point.
What a ridiculous comment.

If everybody followed the guidelines and wore masks to protect OTHERS and social distanced effectively, then the infection rates might not be on the increase!!!!
 
What a ridiculous comment.

If everybody followed the guidelines and wore masks to protect OTHERS and social distanced effectively, then the infection rates might not be on the increase!!!!
Guessing from the posts he doesn’t think it is.

on topic though, I do struggle to see how non league clubs can allow fans in
 
There are more than a few posts in this thread where the discussion has moved from discussing the issue of fans returning to football to one of posters making posts very personal. I thought about deleting those posts which had gone down that route, but truthfully there were so many that it might just be better to close the thread. I really don't want to do that as this subject does still deserve air time on here. So please, a plea from the moderator team please stop getting drawn into personal insults and name calling, it ain't clever and it denigrates an important thread.

Thanks RHB
 
Guessing from the posts he doesn’t think it is.

on topic though, I do struggle to see how non league clubs can allow fans in
Not all non-league though, right? Cos the conference prem has voted to postpone the start to their season as they're not allowed to have fans in and and are going to postpone it futher.
 
.. but there is still no evidence, scientific or otherwise, that masks make any difference.

How about the surgeons, doctors, nurses and varied medical personnel who have worn masks for over 100 years?

If they make no difference, chances are someone would have picked up on it by now... and I’m not referring to the University of YouTube graduates.
 
They decided to start the league season and there was always a risk of another flare up and crowds not allowed back in. Who decided it would be a good idea to run the pointless league cup and EFL trophy his season and with more chance of spreading our favourite Chinese delicacy? FA Cup yes.
Probably answered my own question.....money talks.
 
Who in there right mind actually wants to go and watch football in a ground with hardly any supporters and therefore zero atmosphere ? This season should be abandoned now , in fact it should never have even started.

Me. They're my team and I want to be there to try to support them, however badly they're performing.
 
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