Fans returning to stadiums put on hold.

[kentblues]

I hold my breath on this, the advanced solidarity finds early this year none of that reached the clubs but stayed with the EFL apparently. So unless paid direct to the clubs i can see the same happening again

Indeed the EFL cling on to the solidarity money, card providers the season ticket money- things will come to a head very very quickly over the coming weeks.

 

[Napster]

Unfortunately (or fortunately) this will be driven by politics. There are many football towns in the much talked about "red wall" seats with MPs sat on small majorities. Allowing the local football club to go under due to the restrictions and lack of help will royally hack off 1000s of fans in those constituencies. So actually I think something will absolutely happen. Be amazed if the Minister of Sport hasn't got a spreadsheet showing constituencies overlaying EFL football clubs to understand what the political damage could be.

How football grounds explain the election result

75 per cent of Premier League clubs are found in Labour seats; by the National League, the figure is just 25 per cent

www.prospectmagazine.co.uk

 

[Leo210856]

Let's hope so but some clubs need more rescuing than others unfortunately, but i would imagine that the HMRC will be instructed to ease back on seeking winding up orders, not just for football clubs but for many businesses.

As I pointed out earlier some were in one hellava mess prior to this pandemic .

I agree that HMRC may be told to ease up but the question really is will they allow clubs that had significant debts prior to March continue to delay and potentially owe millions on top of the vast sums they already owed.

My guess is it will very much be on a case by case basis with the help more likely to come by extending the deadline to pay the sums already the subject to delay.

We really need to take the blinkers off any handout will be based on current liabilities and not designed to pay off the debts of the past

 

[kentblues]

How football grounds explain the election result

75 per cent of Premier League clubs are found in Labour seats; by the National League, the figure is just 25 per cent

www.prospectmagazine.co.uk

Very good- thank you & proving the point perfectly. The reason why the fate of L1 & L2 clubs will be of particular interest to the self interested in Gov...

 

[Westcliff DGS]

Unfortunately (or fortunately) this will be driven by politics. There are many football towns in the much talked about "red wall" seats with MPs sat on small majorities. Allowing the local football club to go under due to the restrictions and lack of help will royally hack off 1000s of fans in those constituencies. So actually I think something will absolutely happen. Be amazed if the Minister of Sport hasn't got a spreadsheet showing constituencies overlaying EFL football clubs to understand what the political damage could be.

I think the Premier league clubs would be keen to help in general(not so much Burnley give Dyche’s comments), but i do not trust in the EFL at all. As for the government i think they we interject but wil not offer any funding directly themselves, i dont think that can afford too given the borrowing and whats been rightly handed out to help already i just dont think the country has the money to do so.

I know what your getting at and i do agree with the sentiments just dont foresee the actions if that all makes sense

also re the HMRC they never ease up, i just dont see that happening either, i hope it does though

 

[kentblues]

As I pointed out earlier some were in one hellava mess prior to this pandemic .

I agree that HMRC may be told to ease up but the question really is will they allow clubs that had significant debts prior to March continue to delay and potentially owe millions on top of the vast sums they already owed.

My guess is it will very much be on a case by case basis with the help more likely to come by extending the deadline to pay the sums already the subject to delay.

We really need to take the blinkers off any handout will be based on current liabilities and not designed to pay off the debts of the past

The handout such as it is will be like the solidarity payment simply calculated. They will not look at the debt of individual clubs and how aged it is. A clubs liabilities are the liabilities and which they pay off the clubs not the EFL will decide.

 

[kentblues]

As I pointed out earlier some were in one hellava mess prior to this pandemic .

I agree that HMRC may be told to ease up but the question really is will they allow clubs that had significant debts prior to March continue to delay and potentially owe millions on top of the vast sums they already owed.

My guess is it will very much be on a case by case basis with the help more likely to come by extending the deadline to pay the sums already the subject to delay.

We really need to take the blinkers off any handout will be based on current liabilities and not designed to pay off the debts of the past

Its interesting- but how may people go to the theatre compared to EFL football matches? There have been significant payments to smaller sectors than football and with considerably less patrons. So lets see. I suspect it will be a total package wher Gov will put in X if Prem puts in Y and EFL puts in Z.

 

[southendkid]

Unfortunately (or fortunately) this will be driven by politics. There are many football towns in the much talked about "red wall" seats with MPs sat on small majorities. Allowing the local football club to go under due to the restrictions and lack of help will royally hack off 1000s of fans in those constituencies. So actually I think something will absolutely happen. Be amazed if the Minister of Sport hasn't got a spreadsheet showing constituencies overlaying EFL football clubs to understand what the political damage could be.

I'm not convinced the government cares much about the red wall seats, most of the voters in those constituencies only defected from Labour either because they wanted Brexit to go through or because they hated Corbyn. Corbyn's been replaced by someone with a better grip on the basics of PR and Brexit will have happened by the time the next election happens, I can't see why most of those seats wouldn't be turning red again regardless of what the government does. Even if the government did care most people living in a constituency of a lower league club aren't actually fans of that club so aren't going to change their voting preference based on if the government helps the club out or not.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Prem or EFL, Tories or Labour, not to be trusted as the vast majority are in it for themselves and pure profit.
They know they are morally corrupt but don't care.
And the majority of public will just accept it all, vote for the same fools, buy the sky, buy a big club shirt and drink the cheapest Spoons lager.
I am sure Bury fans must be overjoyed with all the Manc and Manure stuff and the help from their close Association clubs! NOT.

 

[rigsby]

David Amess and James Duddridge have just announce that with footballs future under threat, they intend to fight hard for the football fans in their town. They will be speaking in parliament on behalf of West Ham and Arsenal.

 

[ESG]

David Amess and James Duddridge have just announce that with footballs future under threat, they intend to fight hard for the football fans in their town. They will be speaking in parliament on behalf of West Ham and Arsenal.

What about all the plastic Mancs?

 

[kentblues]

I'm not convinced the government cares much about the red wall seats, most of the voters in those constituencies only defected from Labour either because they wanted Brexit to go through or because they hated Corbyn. Corbyn's been replaced by someone with a better grip on the basics of PR and Brexit will have happened by the time the next election happens, I can't see why most of those seats wouldn't be turning red again regardless of what the government does. Even if the government did care most people living in a constituency of a lower league club aren't actually fans of that club so aren't going to change their voting preference based on if the government helps the club out or not.

It will matter a lot to the sitting MP and many of these seats will be decided by a couple of thousand voters or less changing or not. We shall see.

 

[damien]

Get your emails into a mess

 

[Ricey]

Is this the politics thread?

 

[rigsby]

We both know that you were one of the two people involved in the spat which caused the politics thread to be closed down (and I wasn't the other party).

There was only one Holocaust that I'm aware of.

So its you who is actually a denier.....Funny how in life those that shout loudest or cast the first stone......

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

I suggest that unless people want some enforced holiday from SZ they stop the political bickering.

 

[Fairport]

App

David Amess and James Duddridge have just announce that with footballs future under threat, they intend to fight hard for the football fans in their town. They will be speaking in parliament on behalf of West Ham and Arsenal.

Amess is a Spammer and Duddridge supports Southampton.

 

[crangoner]

App

Amess is a Spammer and Duddridge supports Southampton.

Shurely shome mishtake?

 

[Fairport]

Shurely shome mishtake?

That was a typical photo opportunity for Amess who is definitely a Spammer. To be fair though maybe SUFC are his number 2 club. Many of us have a soft spot for other clubs apart from the Shrimpers, mine being Chelmsford City.

 

[Evening Echo]

The Football Association has welcomed the Government’s commitment to provide financial support to clubs but warned of the “huge” impact the new coronavirus restrictions are set to have on the game.

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