Ranger released from prison

[Leoblue]

Anyway, I've said my bit so won't argue anymore.

I'll just bring this post up in the future and say I told you so with a smug grin :smile:

 

[Floval Flyer]

I will also be giving dogs abuse to Luke McCormick when he comes down here next week but that is because he plays for a team that is not Southend United. Hypocritical, yes but then I am a football fan and most of us are hypocrites if we are honest.

McCormick killed 2 small boys and maimed their father using his phone whilst drunk at the wheel of his Range Rover, comparing his crime to Nile Ranger is delusional.

If McCormack had signed for Southend after his release I would, out of principle NOT watch the blues any longer

Others consistently berate Ranger however still pay to watch the team, I find that odd personally

 

[Billy Bests boot laces]

Just imagine a fully fit Nile Ranger, integrated back into our squad and fired up to be successful, .

Never saw it last season, doubt I will this one. He's fitness is obviously behind this time last year, and always thought he struggled to last 90 mins last season. Ok, he suffered from injuries more than once, but will probably do so again.
Would be surprised to see him on the pitch ( as a Sub for a few games ) until October.

 

[RHB]

Never saw it last season, doubt I will this one. He's fitness is obviously behind this time last year, and always thought he struggled to last 90 mins last season. Ok, he suffered from injuries more than once, but will probably do so again.
Would be surprised to see him on the pitch ( as a Sub for a few games ) until October.

Hence the use of the word imagine!

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Surely no matter what our opinions are about what Nile has or hasn't done and any sanction he has received, it is in all our interests that he looks forward and the club help him be a decent footballer and decent citizen.

It is not for any of us to say that he can't achieve that, despite the past. Nor is it in our interest to wish him to fail just so we can say 'I told you so'.

Let he who is without sin (note: this means EVER - ed) cast the first stone. John 8:7

I'm not religious but since we're being moralistic, I've decided to quote the original moral code.

Nile: make us proud. Prove you can do it.

 

[IloveShrimp]

Do you know for sure he hasn't then? Or just listening to the media?

I support the club and shirt, not the player. As for the other (3 members) I don't think you can put there errors in the same context as NR AND they have learned from there mistakes which is my issue with NR, who never will.

Is that right?

We have Yearwood who does that. I am a fan of Wordy though and agree he's a bit special on his day going forward.

So you know for sure that NR will learn from his mistakes eh? Can I borrow your crystal ball?

 

[Leoblue]

Is that right?

So you know for sure that NR will learn from his mistakes eh? Can I borrow your crystal ball?

Read it again, I said he wouldn't. :stunned:

 

[Gt Yarmouth Shrimper]

Anyway, I've said my bit so won't argue anymore.

I'll just bring this post up in the future and say I told you so with a smug grin :smile:

Read it again, I said he wouldn't. :stunned:

1h 14m, that lasted well.:smile:

 

[geoffmundo]

Will be interesting to review some of the comments here in the months ahead when perhaps a Ranger goal secures 3 points maybe at home to Wigan in February or away to Blackburn in April!

 

[Norwichshrimper]

McCormick killed 2 small boys and maimed their father using his phone whilst drunk at the wheel of his Range Rover, comparing his crime to Nile Ranger is delusional.

If McCormack had signed for Southend after his release I would, out of principle NOT watch the blues any longer

Others consistently berate Ranger however still pay to watch the team, I find that odd personally

Rangers crimes were pre-meditated and deliberate...McCormick's were not..not excusing him at all, but just saying like.

I think you are confusing cause and effect

 

[Ricey]

Rangers crimes were pre-meditated and deliberate...McCormick's were not..not excusing him at all, but just saying like.

I think you are confusing cause and effect

He knowingly got behind the wheel of his car under the influence of alcohol. In my eyes that's deliberate and pre-meditated! But then I am very anti drink/drug driver so I would say that.

 

[Pubey]

He knowingly got behind the wheel of his car under the influence of alcohol. In my eyes that's deliberate and pre-meditated! But then I am very anti drink/drug driver so I would say that.

Pre-meditated means he went out with the intention to kill people with his car. Don't be ridiculous.

What McCormick did was a terrible error of judgement that sadly resulted in a horrendous and tragic outcome. He rightly got a custodial sentence and he has to live with what he did for the rest of his life. However, it wasn't pre-meditated.

 

[buffalowolf]

Why dont some of you people get off his back , yes he committed a crime and has done his time for that crime,with people like some of you on his back continuously he may never have the chance tostart over again. Why not just try to help him not hope as some of you do he goes astray again.As for mei wish him well ,hes done his time as far as im concerned his slate is clean.Train hard and play well Nile i wish you well for the future .

 

[southendkid]

He knowingly got behind the wheel of his car under the influence of alcohol. In my eyes that's deliberate and pre-meditated! But then I am very anti drink/drug driver so I would say that.

He had the equivalent of 2 pints of beer in him and this was several hours after he'd stopped drinking so incorrectly thought he was safe to drive. I strongly suspect a lot of people have done the same as him at some point, the only difference is he crashed, which he obviously didn't do on purpose.

He's an idiot but despite people dying I think he should be allowed to get on with his life because millions have done what he did and just been lucky enough to not hit anything, and from an intent point of view they are just as guilty as him.

 

[Ricey]

Pre-meditated means he went out with the intention to kill people with his car. Don't be ridiculous.

What McCormick did was a terrible error of judgement that sadly resulted in a horrendous and tragic outcome. He rightly got a custodial sentence and he has to live with what he did for the rest of his life. However, it wasn't pre-meditated.

I know what it means thanks, no need to be patronising.

He did not have full control of that vehicle due to being under the influence thus making it a weapon.

As for the comment we've all done it. No actually I have never done it and never would! If I'm going out and driving and decide to have a drink then I will leave my car and pick it up the next day.

But anyway, we've gone off topic so that's enough on that.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Let's give the man a chance to prove himself. His paid his debt to society.

 

[Napster]

Let's give the man a chance to prove himself. His paid his debt to society.

Agree. Stop picking on Ricey

 

[Jay_SUFC]

He had the equivalent of 2 pints of beer in him and this was several hours after he'd stopped drinking so incorrectly thought he was safe to drive. I strongly suspect a lot of people have done the same as him at some point, the only difference is he crashed, which he obviously didn't do on purpose.

He's an idiot but despite people dying I think he should be allowed to get on with his life because millions have done what he did and just been lucky enough to not hit anything, and from an intent point of view they are just as guilty as him.

He was twice over the legal drink limit and got behind the wheel of a car, which endangers the lives of himself and others.

If you think it's ok to drink 2 pints then drive a few hours after, then I'm truly shocked at people's attitude to drink driving - it's not an 'error of judgement' as Pubey puts it, it's a heck of a lot more serious than that!!!

Anyway back to Ranger; he's served his time (for something he did before he joined us), I have no idea what went on in January and I never heard of the so called widely reported training lapses, therefore let's see how he does from now.

 

[rigsby]

He was twice over the legal drink limit and got behind the wheel of a car, which endangers the lives of himself and others.

If you think it's ok to drink 2 pints then drive a few hours after, then I'm truly shocked at people's attitude to drink driving - it's not an 'error of judgement' as Pubey puts it, it's a heck of a lot more serious than that!!!

Anyway back to Ranger; he's served his time (for something he did before he joined us), I have no idea what went on in January and I never heard of the so called widely reported training lapses, therefore let's see how he does from now.

If anyone is twice the drink drive limit they have had a lot more than 2 pints. A young fit male will easily burn off a pints worth of alcohol inside 2 hours while their drinking etc.

Long story but we done some tests at the plod station one night about midnight. I had at least 5 pints between 8:30 and 11 my reading was 34 and the limit is 35. So when I hear a 'Your Honour, I only had 2 pints' story, I never believe it.

 

[David Icke]

We used to be a family club. Bobby Moore would have sent Vile Nile packing.

As adults we should be setting the best possible example to our children. What worse example can there possibly be than Vile Nile representing the club after what he has done to family. This whole business must not be about him. It must be about decency. Doing the right thing - not by him but by those in the stadium who do not want him at the club. What an insult to our supporters who feel repulsed by his presence. Their unease should be respected by the club and acted upon. I for one shall be booing Vile Nile.