RIP Maggie Thatcher.

[Tangled up in Blue]

Umm, why?

How much motivation do you think the country would have if everyone was paid a flat wage? It is the "dream jobs" that keep people hungry to better themselves and stay ambitious.....And those who are successful should IMO be rewarded with the kind of salary that reflects their hard work and ambition......Is it not enough that those who have worked hard are penalized to the tune of 40% by the government, and have to effectively hand over half the differential in their wages?

I want the best in life for the wife and kids and I'll move mountains to keep myself moving up the ladder to provide the best.....The downside of this is that I hardly see my little girl as I work too late, but this is one of the many costs of earning a moderately high salary....

Problem is that you assume that everyone who earns above the national average is sitting at home setting fire to twenty pound notes to light their cuban cigars.

You would do well not to presume what I assume.:winking:

 

[OldBlueLady]

Barna, maybe I didn't make it clear, in my earlier post I said we were a certain age group. Once we moved on from the clubs due to reaching the upper age limit, the people that followed on weren't of the same ethos, so while certainly in East Anglia it took a few years to really plummet, across the country, the organisation was dead on its feet by the end of the 90s.

 

[Cricko]

You can't make this stuff up in these times of austerity.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/margaret-thatcher-dead-mps-can-1821854

 

[OldBlueLady]

You can't make this stuff up in these times of austerity.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/margaret-thatcher-dead-mps-can-1821854

That is an outrage :stunned:

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

You can't make this stuff up in these times of austerity.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/margaret-thatcher-dead-mps-can-1821854

Actually, it's not a debate (as the Mirror says in its headline),which is why George Galloway won't be attending.

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

Kay it was a shame that I didn't manage to meet you and a number of others from SZ on Sunday at the Green Man. I should really make an effort, on my next trip over, to try and get down to the Spread before the game. Likely to be over next in july
...............perhaps there will be a SZ summer barbecue? :smile:
I certainly don't have a problem with people earning money for hard work and enjoying it. There were certainly a small minority of people back then who saw the need and had the desire to 'give something back to society' in order to help individuals less fortunate than themselves. Was it just a mode at that time? Did those christian (with a little c) groups disappear after Thatcher or did they just transform themselves into other voluntary activities? I had the impression that there were still plenty of groups today and one can't deny that there are many who still believe in giving........even if it is just money, on a couple of nights of the year. Typing that of course made me realise that there are a hell of a lot of people (majority young?) who are involved in activities to encourage people to give on red nose day etc. So, there are still plenty of people willing to give time, it's just the way they give that time which has changed.
Anyway, the debate as to what degree of responsibility is down to government or charitable groups, in offering succor to the needy and less fortunate, will continue for ever.

 

[TrueBlue]

Galloway can die of ****ing AIDS the ****

 

[C'mon you Shrimpers]

Actually it's not a debate (as the Mirror says in its headline) which is why George Galloway won't be attending.

Good old George , a man of principle as ever.By the way I'm being sarcastic. The reaction of the left at the moment is ample evidence if evidence was needed why Thatcher was right to take on and beat the unions. For all of you too young to remember the unions were the ones who brought this country to its knees in the late 60s early 70s. Just think for a moment about being ruled by the likes of Galloway, or Hatton or Scargill. It makes you shudder doesn't it. I'm not saying sees a particular hero of mine, far from it but in this respect she showed guts and resolve to take these left wing fascists on.

 

[Dick Bate's Protege]

Galloway can die of ****ing AIDS the ****

I wish you'd get off the fence and tell people what you really think...

 

[Mad Cyril]

Umm, why?

How much motivation do you think the country would have if everyone was paid a flat wage? It is the "dream jobs" that keep people hungry to better themselves and stay ambitious.....And those who are successful should IMO be rewarded with the kind of salary that reflects their hard work and ambition......Is it not enough that those who have worked hard are penalized to the tune of 40% by the government, and have to effectively hand over half the differential in their wages?

I want the best in life for the wife and kids and I'll move mountains to keep myself moving up the ladder to provide the best.....The downside of this is that I hardly see my little girl as I work too late, but this is one of the many costs of earning a moderately high salary....

Problem is that you assume that everyone who earns above the national average is sitting at home setting fire to twenty pound notes to light their cuban cigars.

There is nothing wrong with being successful or highly paid if you have earned it. It's those who jump straight to the top due to privillege that need to be removed .

 

[C C Csiders]

Galloway can die of ****ing AIDS the ****

I'd go along with that as long as he catches it off George Osborne.

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

In my view she deserves a funeral that befits any British prime minister. There is no way that she should be put up there on the same level as Churchill or Lady Di. Both of those helped bring the nation together at some point in their lives, or their death. Mrs Thatcher touched part of the countries people in one way an the other part of its people in a very diffent way. She didn't unite people, she divided them. Exactly illustrative of what we've seen on here. That is why there can't be a national celebration of her life and her death. For those that adored her it will certainly be a moving and emotional day..................as for the others, we'll just get on with our lives, as normal.

 

[Hotman]

Can I just add, bringing it back on topic, that it wasn't Thatcher who ruined the lives of many workers - it was their deluded Union leaders. Almost as bad as terrorists in my opinion.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

In my view she deserves a funeral that befits any British prime minister. There is no way that she should be put up there on the same level as Churchill or Lady Di. Both of those helped bring the nation together at some point in their lives, or their death. Mrs Thatcher touched part of the countries people in one way an the other part of its people in a very diffent way. She didn't unite people, she divided them. Exactly illustrative of what we've seen on here. That is why there can't be a national celebration of her life and her death. For those that adored her it will certainly be a moving and emotional day..................as for the others, we'll just get on with our lives, as normal.

I,for one, certainly won't be able to take next Wednesday off, as I'll be quite busy, but I might well get another bottle of Cava in.:party:

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

In my view she deserves a funeral that befits any British prime minister. There is no way that she should be put up there on the same level as Churchill or Lady Di. Both of those helped bring the nation together at some point in their lives, or their death. Mrs Thatcher touched part of the countries people in one way an the other part of its people in a very diffent way. She didn't unite people, she divided them. Exactly illustrative of what we've seen on here. That is why there can't be a national celebration of her life and her death. For those that adored her it will certainly be a moving and emotional day..................as for the others, we'll just get on with our lives, as normal.

What did Lady Di actually do?

Other than Will Carling, James Hewitt etc

 

[OldBlueLady]

Good old George , a man of principle as ever.By the way I'm being sarcastic. The reaction of the left at the moment is ample evidence if evidence was needed why Thatcher was right to take on and beat the unions. For all of you too young to remember the unions were the ones who brought this country to its knees in the late 60s early 70s. Just think for a moment about being ruled by the likes of Galloway, or Hatton or Scargill. It makes you shudder doesn't it. I'm not saying sees a particular hero of mine, far from it but in this respect she showed guts and resolve to take these left wing fascists on.

Exactly. Remember this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Day_Week

You used to have a timetable of when you'd have power in your house, and try and get everything done in those hours. Where were the human rights people back then???! :winking:

Kay it was a shame that I didn't manage to meet you and a number of others from SZ on Sunday at the Green Man. I should really make an effort, on my next trip over, to try and get down to the Spread before the game. Likely to be over next in july
...............perhaps there will be a SZ summer barbecue? :smile:

Didn't go there, we stayed by the stadium at the outside bars. Pre-season possibly then?!

 

[C'mon you Shrimpers]

I,for one, certainly won't be able to take next Wednesday off, as I'll be quite busy, but I might well get another bottle of Cava in.:party:

my point proved very nicely Barna about the left. Absolutely no class.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

Rusty,
We've been through this before.:zzzzz:
(However,I'm quite happy to compare my educational qualifications with yours, anytime you'd care to do so).

Excellent, this always good for a laugh, but can you please do it on a separate thread.

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

What did Lady Di actually do?

Other than Will Carling, James Hewitt etc

Certainly not claiming that she did anything (although campaigning against landmines comes to mind). It was just, for some strange reason, she brought the country together for a short time. That can't be an achievement Mrs Thatcher could claim. Incidently, the very poorly named 'True Blue committee (who on earth thought that one up), to organise her funeral, just about says it all.

 

[Mad Cyril]

Excellent, this always good for a laugh, but can you please do it on a separate thread.

Could be an interesting ****ing competition....