Post-Match Thread and Ratings Tranmere Rovers 2-0 Southend United

[SUBBlue]

22nd will do.....

I’d take that now?

 

[Austin the Shrimper]

Ron needs to do everything possible to stay in the league. He says we’re in a good position, then bloody get this bill paid and bring in about 6 pro’s now. They will need about 2 months to get fit.

 

[Strykr]

Depressing as F.

 

[in the know]

Was it brown that divided the season into blocks of 6 matches and set points goals for each block?, knowing it was a tough block or easier block and trying to get injured players available for certain blocks. We know roughly the points needed. We know when we're playing tough and easier teams. We know who's injured and approx how long for. It made a lot of sense to me.
Any brucie bonus wins against tough teams raised morale and you defended with your life in ones you should win to keep a clean sheet regardless of home or away. It sidesteps the 'we lost again' mentality.
Simplistic league 2 management. Not tinkerman u23 management please.
The signs of green shoots can be seen if we look carefully so embrace them but apply some method and basics.
Having said that..... Result aside ...better today until the tactical change

 

[Colchester and proud!]

Unlucky folks football is never fair, we were murdered by Harrogate today in every way but one ( The important one) we scored 2 goals to their 1, but we should have lost heavily, they had 21 shots to our 11

 

[Chairman Trigg]

When are people going to realise that we cannot keep burning through managers like this? Sol Campbell had to go for numerous reasons, but apart from that changing managers every few months isn't the answer. We need stability.

The squad at MM's disposal just isn't good enough as a collective at the moment. He's tried to strengthen with some signings, but his ability and freedom to get in what he feels he really needs has been ruined by Ron Martin's handling of club finances. Pre-season preparation was also ruined, with just 4 weeks given for him to get to know, assess and prepare his players and with no access to B&L gym facilities, once again all due to Ron Martin's handling of club finances (and a little bit due to the 'Rona).

I think relegation is an inevitability right now and it might be time to just accept it. Take it on the chin, have a complete clear-cut in the summer - and I mean completed with no professional player on our books surviving it. Too many pre-existing and, now, new players poisoned by the losing mentality here. Completely wipe the slate clean and start again from scratch. Preferably with MM in my opinion.

We already had the clear out and look where we are......clean slate and start again......exactly what Stockport and Chesterfield said years ago

 

[Medway Blue]

22nd will do.....

We already had the clear out and look where we are......clean slate and start again......exactly what Stockport and Chesterfield said years ago

You called that a 'clean slate'? What, with all those players still left behind who were witness to last season's debacle? That is not a clean slate.

 

[jackj13]

We already had the clear out and look where we are......clean slate and start again......exactly what Stockport and Chesterfield said years ago

The manager hasn’t been allowed to adequately replace them though

 

[E for B and Billy Best]

This is hard to type, but the club has now become an embarrassment to the town of Southend. Hard to type and hard to read, but unfortunately true.

 

[Ailsa Road Shrimper]

This is hard to type, but the club has now become an embarrassment to the town of Southend. Hard to type and hard to read, but unfortunately true.

I’m not sure which is more of an embarrassment, the town or the club!

 

[Leigh_Seasider]

Unlucky folks football is never fair, we were murdered by Harrogate today in every way but one ( The important one) we scored 2 goals to their 1, but we should have lost heavily, they had 21 shots to our 11

We’ve scored a third of your goals .. reckon you lot will be fine and will beat Tranmere, remember Harrogate put 4 past us without moving into 2nd gear .. 2 points from a possible 24 isn’t bad luck it’s being way out of our depth.

 

[mfurok]

The manager hasn’t been allowed to adequately replace them though

He hasn’t filled the essential positions correctly.

He trialled one keeper but didn’t sign one. Oxley is National League South standard at best.

He signed a centre back but doesn’t play him or plays him at full back. Perhaps because he is not big the strong and commanding centre back we need. Dieng and Taylor are hopeless and when Lennon is our best centre back we have problems.

He signed a strong tackling central midfielder who at 35 wasn’t fit. Now he’s 36 he’ll be slower and less fit (when he’s not suspended because he’ll get there even later now he’s even older). He has, however, signed three other midfielders but they are not tough tackling so can’t replace him. All three would probably be OK in a decent side but don’t solve our current biggest midfield problem.

He signed a forward who is quality when he‘s fit but when will that be. He missed Barnet’s two most important games last season. Has he been fit since? Any way he’ll need a decent centre forward to play off and he hasn’t signed one.

No idea what he’s done to our player of the year, who looks like every bit of self belief, confidence and effort has been drained out of him. That’s not the never say die Elvis we saw last season

.....and we did play well for thirty minutes but they quickly sussed us out. Once their manager saw that we were playing only one forward who is not yet up to this league he changed tactics to stop letting us attack at will.

They scored, our heads dropped and back came the backwards passing and throw ins and free kicks. Absolutely pathetic. We never looked like scoring. Hardly surprising because we have released/sold all our goalscorers and not replaced them.

We hardly won a ball in the air at the back and up front.

AFTER MORE THAN SIXTY YEARS OF MAINLY ENJOYABLE UPS AN DOWNS I’M REALLY BECOMING QUITE SICK OF IT!

 

[Chrisb]

He hasn’t filled the essential positions correctly.

He trialled one keeper but didn’t sign one. Oxley is National League South standard at best.

He signed a centre back but doesn’t play him or plays him at full back. Perhaps because he is not big the strong and commanding centre back we need. Dieng and Taylor are hopeless and when Lennon is our best centre back we have problems.

He signed a strong tackling central midfielder who at 35 wasn’t fit. Now he’s 36 he’ll be slower and less fit (when he’s not suspended because he’ll get there even later now he’s even older). He has, however, signed three other midfielders but they are not tough tackling so can’t replace him. All three would probably be OK in a decent side but don’t solve our current biggest midfield problem.

He signed a forward who is quality when he‘s fit but when will that be. He missed Barnet’s two most important games last season. Has he been fit since? Any way he’ll need a decent centre forward to play off and he hasn’t signed one.

No idea what he’s done to our player of the year, who looks like every bit of self belief, confidence and effort has been drained out of him. That’s not the never say die Elvis we saw last season

.....and we did play well for thirty minutes but they quickly sussed us out. Once their manager saw that we were playing only one forward who is not yet up to this league he changed tactics to stop letting us attack at will.

They scored, our heads dropped and back came the backwards passing and throw ins and free kicks. Absolutely pathetic. We never looked like scoring. Hardly surprising because we have released/sold all our goalscorers and not replaced them.

We hardly won a ball in the air at the back and up front.

AFTER MORE THAN SIXTY YEARS OF MAINLY ENJOYABLE UPS AN DOWNS I’M REALLY BECOMING QUITE SICK OF IT!

Great post.

 

[Floval Flyer]

Didn’t expect to win today. I was proved right.

We must win on Tuesday, if not then we’ve hit the proverbial ‘iceberg’ and we sink.

 

[Shrimp and two veg]

I was encouraged at the start, with MM choosing what i too felt as his best 11 available.
Most of that football in the first half was great, clearly we were on top. Just Lennon giving away the ball, 5 times, with his cross field balls out wide as he stepped out of defence with the ball.

You could see the team had confidence in each other from the start. With the ball coming from Egbri, back to Elvis, across to Lennon and straight to Clifford, then into the centre of midfield, this is international football. Unfortunately there are no runners looking for the through ball or over the top, no one pulling off their man and run into space upfront, probing and asking questions of their defence.
So the ball goes out wide and the opportunity of suprise is lost.

Thats why we look so predictable. They are huffing and puffing, working hard. Then getting undone with crap marking in their box, a keeper that dont like coming off his line and defenders that wont leave their man to close the ball.

Theyll be as shattered as us to lose that game today. Mark please get them to expolit space in front and get the ball there, there's a lot of talent in this team and we arent getting the breaks at all, two pens last week and two pens this week waved away as well.

I'd like to see Harry Seaden given a go in goal and Hobson joining Lennon once more in the centre back berth. Dieng should be used to give Demi a break, looks like he needs it.
Trying to work with what we have here, might even be worth a look upfront for Dieng ?

 

[Billy Bests boot laces]

We must win on Tuesday, if not then we’ve hit the proverbial ‘iceberg’ and we sink.

IMO we're already half way down to the sea bed?.

 

[Floval Flyer]

IMO we're already half way down to the sea bed?.

You could be right, we already swimmin’ with da fishes

 

[LBBlue]

Their manager had the guts to change it on 30 minutes. After that we didn’t really get a look in. 2 shots on target says it all. 8 league games 2 or fewer shots on target in 7 of them. Humphrys, Hutchinson and Kelman gone and only the mystery man in.

Trouble is there aren’t any goalscorers out there - certainly not out of contract. We don’t jump for high balls and dont sprint anywhere.
What’s Marc Antoine Fortune doing?

Only bright spot for me was Tom Clifford who looks like a footballer.

Congratulations to Peter Clarke .. his 50th goal in the League. Pity no one got off the ground to challenge him.

 

[Bearded Shrimper]

We played so well first half an hour, as well as we've played for probably 2 years.
But football is a game of the penalty boxes. We didn't score in theirs, we conceded in ours. Those who said we gave up after they scored are wrong. We didn't.
Their goal and tactical change hurt us, but we recovered and were playing well again. Then the second goal happened, massive fluke.
Then we were trying desperately to get back in the game. The subs hurt us, we went back to passing it across the back because we didn't have the passing lines to get into midfield, nor the long ball to Aquah.
I personally would have changed Egbri for Sterling and ANG for Goodship. We don't create lots down the wings and with that midfield 3, esp JD holding, we could have tried to get the two wide forwards closer to the target man.
As it was we lost all shape and rhythm.
I've been saying for weeks we need to tighten up and get some clean sheets. We had massive bad luck today, stonewall pen on JD not given and their fluke second goal. But if we defend better someone does their job on Clarke and he doesn't score. Those saying Oxley could have come out must be joking, it was too far and too many players - enough to deal with it.

Going forwards I want us to keep this team and pattern and try to get used to it. Too often we change too much and have to start again learning what we're doing. That's the template today, work on that and on keeping clean sheets.

 

[Suffolk Shrimper In Dorset]

Gave the iFollow torture a miss today. Instead visited Days Lane, the home of Swanage FC, where they have one or two issues of their own with their only stand (which was still in use!).....