University degrees.

[The General]

What exactly did that act to the debate? :p You've been spending too much time with someone else who posts on here with only one liners... mentioning no names :whistling:

Well i have nothing sensible to add!!

Kev

 

[Perth Bambi]

Well i have nothing sensible to add!!

Kev

Kev doing his best OBL impression.

 

[Lester Bangs]

Oh one last thing that I forgot to mention.

DISSERTATION

My dissertation carried a massive weight towards my final degree, if you can get a good 'dis tutor' you can easily move up a class on this alone.

 

[M@CC@ 16]

ps thanks for the neg rep. Sadly it doesnt count for much, seeing as you're in negative repland yourself.

Oh and keep up the patronising. What subject are you studying?

i study economics, finance and banking. would like to graduate with a 2:1 as a first would basically mean no social life. my plan is to then work in london and try and do a master in economics at LSE (they should just about let me in with a 2:1 and a decent interview), from there i would be 25 - 26 with 2/3 years work experience and could hopefully write your own cheques time.

I don't want to dampen your enthusiasm but perhaps you should take a loot at current graduate employment rates/salaries?

If we assume an average 40 year old man earns the average 'city' salary of around £48K then I doubt you will find many employers offering £38k to the average graduate.

you haven't dampened my enthusiasm, and fair point, and i would be more than happy on a starting salary of 28K, undercutting the average 'city' salary by 20K further illustrating my point that i would do the same job for less money:) to get on the ladder and then work up

 

[Napster]

i study economics, finance and banking. would like to graduate with a 2:1 as a first would basically mean no social life.

That's not true. My mates in my class who got a first had a cracking social life. It just didn't involve getting bladdered every night.

ps I certainly don't think it will be a write your own cheques time any time soon.

 

[shrimpfan]

i study economics, finance and banking. would like to graduate with a 2:1 as a first would basically mean no social life. my plan is to then work in london and try and do a master in economics at LSE (they should just about let me in with a 2:1 and a decent interview), from there i would be 25 - 26 with 2/3 years work experience and could hopefully write your own cheques time.



you haven't dampened my enthusiasm, and fair point, and i would be more than happy on a starting salary of 28K, undercutting the average 'city' salary by 20K further illustrating my point that i would do the same job for less money:) to get on the ladder and then work up

hope you dont get on a weak ladder, lots of ladders breaking now.

 

[number11]

from there i would be 25 - 26 with 2/3 years work experience and could hopefully write your own cheques time.

Literally speaking, I guess most write their own cheques right now. Whether the bank would honour those cheques is another thing.

I guess your optimism shouldn't be discouraged but I fear the reality for many students graduating in the next few years is that it is going to be a scramble even for the slimmest of pickings.

 

[M@CC@ 16]

Literally speaking, I guess most write their own cheques right now. Whether the bank would honour those cheques is another thing.

I guess your optimism shouldn't be discouraged but I fear the reality for many students graduating in the next few years is that it is going to be a scramble even for the slimmest of pickings.

that may well turn out to be the case however i can't help but feel now is the best time to be at university, during a recession as many jobs will be lost. on my gap year i worked and left there to come here, and am especially glad i did this now because i was working in the construction industry and probably wouldn't have a job now.

opportunity costs also would suggest when i come out of uni i will be in a stronger position than many people as they may have already been at work and have bills to pay etc, and can afford to be out of work less than me, who wouldn't have such commitments.

finally the state of the property market will also hopefully put me in a nice position, as house prices will be low and at that point with hopefully getting a half decent job i could look to get on the ladder, whereas many mid 20's/30's people will already be on the property ladder and bought while the market was sky high, and now their houses/flats are worth much less than they paid for it therefore are in negative equity and could be for some years.

but of course many things could change between now and then, and i could have a degree in a banking system that no longer exists, but think positive ;)

 

[Napster]

that may well turn out to be the case however i can't help but feel now is the best time to be at university, during a recession as many jobs will be lost. on my gap year i worked and left there to come here, and am especially glad i did this now because i was working in the construction industry and probably wouldn't have a job now.

opportunity costs also would suggest when i come out of uni i will be in a stronger position than many people as they may have already been at work and have bills to pay etc, and can afford to be out of work less than me, who wouldn't have such commitments.

finally the state of the property market will also hopefully put me in a nice position, as house prices will be low and at that point with hopefully getting a half decent job i could look to get on the ladder, whereas many mid 20's/30's people will already be on the property ladder and bought while the market was sky high, and now their houses/flats are worth much less than they paid for it therefore are in negative equity and could be for some years.

but of course many things could change between now and then, and i could have a degree in a banking system that no longer exists, but think positive ;)

In a nice way, I think you're barking mad. Ideal qualities to be a banker. (not rhyming slang, honest)

 

[sufc_girl]

Throughout my time at uni so far people have always asked what I'm going to do with a degree in Film and American Studies, and every time I have replied "I don't know." Because if you want a job in any area of the film or media industry you have to put in a lot of extra effort (as in be part of the uni TV station, enter film festivals etc.) and definitely use your summers wisely by doing a work placement. The thing is with me, I don't think I actually want to be part of the film industry!

I went into uni with the mindset of "I want to carry on learning as I enjoy it and I want to get a degree. I want to learn about something that I enjoy so I won't want to kill myself in the next few years!" And having chosen to do Film and American studies (what is American studies? Basically looking at American history, politics, literature etc. So I still get to use the resources and gain knowledge in the more "accepted" areas of study) I get to go on a year abroad! What better way to add to life experiences?? So I knew what I wanted out of my degree.

I have always said that I am nowhere near as determined and talented as some of the other people on my course who want to be in the film industry. And to be honest, I am fine with that! I would much rather have a job after uni (any job, as long as I'm earning money!) that I don't hate, I can gain other skills in maybe, and that basically will give me comfortable life, rather than bust a gut trying to do something that I know I don't have the determination or the talent to do. I am well aware of what awaits me, what I should have done if I wanted a job in the film industry, and what I wanted out of my university experience.

The only thing I would say about all this is that I'm sure some people would definitely see my degree as a waste of time and money if that's all I wanted out of life. But I don't think it has been as I have thoroughly enjoyed every part of it so far. UEA (where I go) is the top in the country for my course and so I have been priviliged to learn from professors who have numerous pieces of work published and are very well regarded in the academic world. And as I went there to learn more about something I enjoy, that makes me very happy in the choices I have made.

 

[Irish_Shrimper]

Throughout my time at uni so far people have always asked what I'm going to do with a degree in Film and American Studies, and every time I have replied "I don't know." Because if you want a job in any area of the film or media industry you have to put in a lot of extra effort (as in be part of the uni TV station, enter film festivals etc.) and definitely use your summers wisely by doing a work placement. The thing is with me, I don't think I actually want to be part of the film industry!

I went into uni with the mindset of "I want to carry on learning as I enjoy it and I want to get a degree. I want to learn about something that I enjoy so I won't want to kill myself in the next few years!" And having chosen to do Film and American studies (what is American studies? Basically looking at American history, politics, literature etc. So I still get to use the resources and gain knowledge in the more "accepted" areas of study) I get to go on a year abroad! What better way to add to life experiences?? So I knew what I wanted out of my degree.

I have always said that I am nowhere near as determined and talented as some of the other people on my course who want to be in the film industry. And to be honest, I am fine with that! I would much rather have a job after uni (any job, as long as I'm earning money!) that I don't hate, I can gain other skills in maybe, and that basically will give me comfortable life, rather than bust a gut trying to do something that I know I don't have the determination or the talent to do. I am well aware of what awaits me, what I should have done if I wanted a job in the film industry, and what I wanted out of my university experience.

The only thing I would say about all this is that I'm sure some people would definitely see my degree as a waste of time and money if that's all I wanted out of life. But I don't think it has been as I have thoroughly enjoyed every part of it so far. UEA (where I go) is the top in the country for my course and so I have been priviliged to learn from professors who have numerous pieces of work published and are very well regarded in the academic world. And as I went there to learn more about something I enjoy, that makes me very happy in the choices I have made.

I'm sorry, what?

hehehehe

 

[sufc_girl]

I'm sorry, what?

hehehehe

Well you're feeling mean today aren't you!

I just meant it as in be happy and confident in the choices you're making with regard to uni. That way you know what you want out of it and what you have to do to achieve it.

Meanie

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

Well you're feeling mean today aren't you!

I just meant it as in be happy and confident in the choices you're making with regard to uni. That way you know what you want out of it and what you have to do to achieve it.

Meanie

What I don't get is why you are in Canada if you are doing American studies.

Incidentally, for those wanting to get firsts do a science, if you want a 2:i do arts.

 

[sufc_girl]

What I don't get is why you are in Canada if you are doing American studies.

Incidentally, for those wanting to get firsts do a science, if you want a 2:i do arts.

To be totally honest with you, neither do I! But they offered it as a North American univeristy to go to and they do American studies subjects here. I'm still being subjected to American culture really which (apparently) is the point of the year abroad. But I agree it's a bit weird, I just fancied Canada over America - and it's cheaper.

Is it easier to get a first with science then? I imagine the only reason for this to be true is that you can revise for sciences more easily than an arts degree??

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

To be totally honest with you, neither do I! But they offered it as a North American univeristy to go to and they do American studies subjects here. I'm still being subjected to American culture really which (apparently) is the point of the year abroad. But I agree it's a bit weird, I just fancied Canada over America - and it's cheaper.

Is it easier to get a first with science then? I imagine the only reason for this to be true is that you can revise for sciences more easily than an arts degree??

At my uni over 90% of history students got a 2:i, but less than 5% got a first or a desmond. Science has exact answers rather than the subjectivity of the arts so the marks are more extreme.

If you do dual honours, you are also less likely to get a first. On the otherhand it is more interesting.

 

[sufc_girl]

At my uni over 90% of history students got a 2:i, but less than 5% got a first or a desmond. Science has exact answers rather than the subjectivity of the arts so the marks are more extreme.

If you do dual honours, you are also less likely to get a first. On the otherhand it is more interesting.

Yeah that's what I thought. They're always telling you in an arts degree that there is no right answer as long as you back it up, whereas with science there is a right and a wrong answer.

I already knew I wouldn't get a first so I took the more interesting route!

 

[Ulysses]

i got a Desmond Tutu

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

I got feck all, as I never went to Uni, did not see the point unless you wanted to waste some time before getting a job.

I have a decent job with better than average money and on plan to retire in 17 years.

Nothing replaces hard work and balls, degrees can open a door and are usually only cherished in careers still infested with the old school tie brigade in the management ranks.

P.S Cracking thread made my lunch hour on Friday fly past.

 

[Medway Blue]

Hoping to go into History teaching after my degree and teaching course. Want to do some writing (books/journal articles) and research on the side. I should, I say should be ok for a job!

 

[Rob Noxious]

Hoping to go into History teaching after my degree and teaching course. Want to do some writing (books/journal articles) and research on the side. I should, I say should be ok for a job!

Good luck, James- spare a thought for us who are history already...:'(