Why are we so bad?

[osymandus]

:D Can you stand for Parliament Colonel?

Id vote for him , in fact Mk why not become deputy leadr

 

[MK Shrimper]

Id vote for him , in fact Mk why not become deputy leadr

Only if you're Minister of Magic and Wobbly Bits.

 

[graysblue]

Nail. Hit. On. Head.

Why does everything have to make a profit for shareholders? Why can't we have services that are there to assist, such as local Post Offices, bus services.

agreed

rail, and the utilities should all be non profit and work for the people.

 

[osymandus]

Only if you're Minister of Magic and Wobbly Bits.

Sounds likea plan (wobbly bits :unsure: ) . Banishing rituals for teh under 5's could work

 

[steveo]

It will change when people stop whinging and start doing stuff. Write to your MP or in the case of hambro hill finish the roadworks off yourself.

Why would I do that? I already have a job. There are people who are being paid to get these jobs done. Why cant they do them on time and within budget?

 

[graysblue]

This whole thing about the BNP is so silly. They're absolutely mental and there's not one of their policies that would work out in a modern Britain. In a globalised world the idea that 'it's all the fault of the foreigners' is like thinking that thunderstorms are caused by God moving his furniture.

I'm getting really close to the stage where I actually want the BNP to win the election just so we can see how useless they are, but I've got a funny feeling that Germany tried a similar ploy in the 1930s and it didn't work out so well....

the scarey thing is this goverment has driven ordinary voters into BNP clutches,personally if they ever gained power there would be more than likely civil war.

we all know goverments are useless and think they know best when over the past 30 years different goverments have made **** up after **** up.

its about time they actually listened to the voters.

 

[Napster]

agreed

rail, and the utilities should all be non profit and work for the people.

why? I'm genuinely interested. I don't think it would work for economic reasons, or efficiency reasons.

 

[osymandus]

Why would I do that? I already have a job. There are people who are being paid to get these jobs done. Why cant they do them on time and within budget?

Becuase in some case the lowest quote is given with not suffeicent funds to actually do teh job correctly. Or cheaper labour which is not as skilled is employed . Other times as stated by incompetance

 

[osymandus]

why? I'm genuinely interested. I don't think it would work for economic reasons, or efficiency reasons.

Maybe the Economic models used need to be re-examnined then, sounds like their partly to blame.

 

[graysblue]

why? I'm genuinely interested. I don't think it would work for economic reasons, or efficiency reasons.

because instead of making vast profits for the shareholders they would be able to employ many more people.

before BT became privatised they employed people doing basic tasks such as sweeping floors ect yet the old people employed to do this work were soon shown the door.

maybe as well if the utilities returned to public ownership possibly cheaper bills.

 

[MK Shrimper]

why? I'm genuinely interested. I don't think it would work for economic reasons, or efficiency reasons.

Why not? It worked wonderfully well before Thatcher came in and sold off everything you already owned to make some nice fat profits for her Tory cronies.

 

[steveo]

Becuase in some case the lowest quote is given with not suffeicent funds to actually do teh job correctly. Or cheaper labour which is not as skilled is employed . Other times as stated by incompetance

Still no reason for me to do it. Besides, I dont own the heavy machinery required. I think that bloke made the most stupid post ever.

 

[steveo]

Why not? It worked wonderfully well before Thatcher came in and sold off everything you already owned to make some nice fat profits for her Tory cronies.

Come on MK, Wonderfully well is stretching it a little isnt it?
Did you ever use the train in the 70's? I admit, It was sometimes possible to get a train that was late, on the days they were not on strike if you wanted to stand the whole way, but other days were a nightmare!

How about the constant power cuts? The miners were always on strike and I dont suppose the post office were at work much more often.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Come on MK, Wonderfully well is stretching it a little isnt it?
Did you ever use the train in the 70's? I admit, It was sometimes possible to get a train that was late, on the days they were not on strike if you wanted to stand the whole way, but other days were a nightmare!

How about the constant power cuts? The miners were always on strike and I dont suppose the post office were at work much more often.

Lol, tell me what's changed there?

The whole 1970's thing was before my time. Ok, the Unions may have been too powerful but all the Tory government did was weight it unfairly in favour of the rich. Been nice if we could of had a bit of balance.

 

[steveo]

Lol, tell me what's changed there?

The whole 1970's thing was before my time. Ok, the Unions may have been too powerful but all the Tory government did was weight it unfairly in favour of the rich. Been nice if we could of had a bit of balance.

Well I dont use the trains anymore, Id rather sit in traffic jams at Hambro Hill, but I think they run a bit more often, probably thanks to the sterling work provided by Railtrak.

I cant remember having too many power cuts, and the miners dont strike any more because errmm, I dont think there are any.

The main concern I have would be with you and Osy in power I'm not sure we would get the balance a lot of us are looking for.

 

[graysblue]

Come on MK, Wonderfully well is stretching it a little isnt it?
Did you ever use the train in the 70's? I admit, It was sometimes possible to get a train that was late, on the days they were not on strike if you wanted to stand the whole way, but other days were a nightmare!

How about the constant power cuts? The miners were always on strike and I dont suppose the post office were at work much more often.

people such as scargill and his like were far too powerful,those days are gone forever we hope.

before the sell offs the combined workforce was huge which helped the economy in particular in far flung places.
however once it was all sold off with the rich becoming even richer the workforce was culled without mercy just to boost profits.

 

[osymandus]

Well I dont use the trains anymore, Id rather sit in traffic jams at Hambro Hill, but I think they run a bit more often, probably thanks to the sterling work provided by Railtrak.

I cant remember having too many power cuts, and the miners dont strike any more because errmm, I dont think there are any.

The main concern I have would be with you and Osy in power I'm not sure we would get the balance a lot of us are looking for.

Ah well you see here your first stament is an alleged observation rather then on actually experince ;) .

Give it another 10 years and we all could we be fighting for power and the fuel to run it, some peoples nature has always been about sadly acquiring the means by which they can become more affluent, the oil prospectors of America in 1910, the discovery and drilling of the same in the middle East (a possible cause of World War I ;)). Thomas Edison and Nicolai Tesla battle to bring across which they fault was the best form of electricity to service humanity (one had the best idea the other did it for fame fortune and pride ;)). The 70's were another power struggle which lead to the one in the 80's ET infinitum. No one learns, schisms are created, a minority express their ideas on everyone else and control a commodity to do so (in some but not all cases I should add)

If I was seeking power (and I firmly believe those who seek it should never have it) I would prefer a world where everyone could question what has been done in their name, but more importantly they have the education to actually recognise and question what they see.

Balance would not be about necessarily what we would like to have but what we need , and only each and every individual can decide that .

 

[MK Shrimper]

Thomas Edison and Nicolai Tesla

Ahem, Thomas Edison vs George Westinghouse! AC vs DC!

 

[steveo]

Ah well you see here your first stament is an alleged observation rather then on actually experince ;) .

Give it another 10 years and we all could we be fighting for power and the fuel to run it, some peoples nature has always been about sadly acquiring the means by which they can become more affluent, the oil prospectors of America in 1910, the discovery and drilling of the same in the middle East (a possible cause of World War I ;)). Thomas Edison and Nicolai Tesla battle to bring across which they fault was the best form of electricity to service humanity (one had the best idea the other did it for fame fortune and pride ;)). The 70's were another power struggle which lead to the one in the 80's ET infinitum. No one learns, schisms are created, a minority express their ideas on everyone else and control a commodity to do so (in some but not all cases I should add)

If I was seeking power (and I firmly believe those who seek it should never have it) I would prefer a world where everyone could question what has been done in their name, but more importantly they have the education to actually recognise and question what they see.

Balance would not be about necessarily what we would like to have but what we need , and only each and every individual can decide that .

Why cant you ever make a simple reply? I cant make head or tale of most of the stuff you write.

 

[osymandus]

Ahem, Thomas Edison vs George Westinghouse! AC vs DC!

No , Nichola Tesla , Tesla is the man who defined and made DC current as we define and use it even today .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla


Westinghouse got in touch with Tesla, and obtained patent rights to Tesla's AC motor. Tesla had conceived the rotating magnetic field principle in 1882 and used it to invent the first brushless AC motor or induction motor in 1883. Westinghouse hired him as a consultant for a year and from 1888 onwards the wide scale introduction of the polyphase AC motor began. The work led to the modern US power-distribution scheme: three-phase AC at 60 Hz, chosen as a rate high enough to minimize light flickering, but low enough to reduce reactive losses, an arrangement also conceived by Tesla