THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK
Life President⭐⭐
Brown out ! :winking:
Where have you been? You're seldom seen.
Brown out ! :winking:
Where have you been? You're seldom seen.
I stay in the shadows and occasionally comment stupid things :smile:
Join the rest of us then...many on here are like thatI stay in the shadows and occasionally comment stupid things :smile:
Yep, I make you right there, although I was thinking Gina was the cleaner...
Sturrock kept the club alive and took us to Wembley for the first time. He did his bit in building a squad that may have fallen short under him but one that his successor could build on further. And Brown succeeded and well done to him. Sturrock also gave us Bilel Mohsni; the most unique and entertaining player I've ever had the privilege to watch and that's good enough for me. :smile:Hmmm. Two successful managers in a row before PB?? Paul Sturrock won us? Got us promotion? Naah. Just the most boring football I have ever seen Southend United play.
Though I agree our support has been rather spoiled in recent years.
Chris Wilder? Two clubs is not really the same progression as Sheff Utd are very different to Cobblers..
Eddie Howe? Great shout!
I don't think I suggested Brown was not successful. He has been. He's largely done an excellent job - albeit in somewhat rollercoaster fashion - and like I said (hi Tilly!) the two seasons in League 1 have been pretty good, especially with PB willing to be more expansive with the team's style of play rather than sticking with the clean-sheet-mentality nonsense that jeopardised our promotion.I would say that "the uneasy relationship" you speak of is more down to some fans disliking Phil Brown from the start and then seeking to highlight only the down points and ignoring the plus points or seeking to diminish his successes...a bit like you have with the league 2 promotion.
You state that we failed to gain promotion on the last day but fail to mention that we only achieved that position the week before following a long run (7?) of wins. We barely spent any time that season in the automatic promotion season, unlike in Paul Sturrock's second season where we really did fall away. Yet according to you Sturrock was successful and Brown is not.
I am not having a go at Sturrock who did a great in stabilising the club. It is just the belittling of Brown's achievements I do not understand.
Wilder's record is extraordinary, especially given what he had to go through at Northampton, off the field.
Think he is a bit unique, though.
If it's the Gina I know, she worked the diner all day. Brings home her pay for love though, bless 'er.
Sturrock kept the club alive and took us to Wembley for the first time. He did his bit in building a squad that may have fallen short under him but one that his successor could build on further. And Brown succeeded and well done to him. Sturrock also gave us Bilel Mohsni; the most unique and entertaining player I've ever had the privilege to watch and that's good enough for me. :smile:
Regarding Chris Wilder, he won two successive titles; I think Northampton had been in League 2 for five seasons so getting them out was a decent achievement. And Sheffield United had been languishing below their level for a few seasons (I think?) so Wilder achieving promotion so soon shouldn't be dismissed as inevitable.
I don't think I suggested Brown was not successful. He has been. He's largely done an excellent job - albeit in somewhat rollercoaster fashion - and like I said (hi Tilly!) the two seasons in League 1 have been pretty good, especially with PB willing to be more expansive with the team's style of play rather than sticking with the clean-sheet-mentality nonsense that jeopardised our promotion.
Ultimately my stance is that had the Tilly era not happened PB's achievements would be appreciated more, and rightly so. But some of his decision-making has at times been so erratic and baffling that it sticks with fans, which hasn't helped his cause to get everyone on his side.
Really, in my opinion we haven't had a bad manager for almost 15 years. How many clubs can say that?
[/B]How's her Tommy doing? Still at the docks?:smile:
Cloning. Now there's a plan.
We could clone a few of our valued players and sell them on secretly as duplicates.
All the time, still under our control and spell. Set-up to perform badly against us.
I like it, this one definitely has legs. In fact if you clone them and add a few extra legs? Can you imagine an 8-legged Simon Cox? :unsure: