Club Wages and bills thread

[pottster]

Maybe kevin Maher had told the players that he has been through Dark times with the club himself as a player . He has put together a good bunch of players .Who like him seem to stick together through thick and thin .

I was referring to back room staff, ticket office etc. I don't know how they have held on so long.

 

[undercovershrimper]

Heard on twitter (accuracy unknown) that staff received one months wages yesterday

 

[Napster]

Maybe kevin Maher had told the players that he has been through Dark times with the club himself as a player .

Yes that double promotion was really tough.

 

[West Stand]

Done the minimum to meet the players contractually? What else was he going to do?

By paying them the one month they hadn’t been paid, and on pay day today he has now paid them what they are owed for February, he has done what he is supposed to do. I won’t be praising them for that, but he wasn’t going to pay them their February wage packet before Februarys pay day was he?

I don’t believe it’s anywhere near as straightforward as that.

The Club itself would open itself to sanctions from FIFA if it fails to pay professional ( contracted ) players within 30 days of the wages being due.
The sanctions crank up for repeated failure. In effect not only can the NL place into effect an embargo FIFA have the powers to sanction clubs as well
But it’s the players rights to walk away from their contracts.

Heres what FIFA says in relation to that

In the case of a club unlawfully failing to pay a player at least two monthly salaries on their due dates, the player will be deemed to have a just cause to terminate his contract, provided that he has put the debtor club in default in writing and has granted a deadline of at least 15 days for the debtor club to fully comply with its financial obligation(s). Alternative provisions in contracts existing at the time of this provision coming into force may be considered.
2.
For any salaries of a player which are not due on a monthly basis, the pro-rata value corresponding to two months shall be considered. Delayed payment of an amount which is equal to at least two months shall also be deemed a just cause for the player to terminate his contract, subject to him complying with the notice of termination as per paragraph 1 above.

 

[Somerset Ex-TTB]

I might ask the club again for my Halifax ticket refund that has been totally ignored twice, now they are flush.

 

[kentblues]

I don’t believe it’s anywhere near as straightforward as that.

The Club itself would open itself to sanctions from FIFA if it fails to pay professional ( contracted ) players within 30 days of the wages being due.
The sanctions crank up for repeated failure. In effect not only can the NL place into effect an embargo FIFA have the powers to sanction clubs as well
But it’s the players rights to walk away from their contracts.

Heres what FIFA says in relation to that

In the case of a club unlawfully failing to pay a player at least two monthly salaries on their due dates, the player will be deemed to have a just cause to terminate his contract, provided that he has put the debtor club in default in writing and has granted a deadline of at least 15 days for the debtor club to fully comply with its financial obligation(s). Alternative provisions in contracts existing at the time of this provision coming into force may be considered.
2.
For any salaries of a player which are not due on a monthly basis, the pro-rata value corresponding to two months shall be considered. Delayed payment of an amount which is equal to at least two months shall also be deemed a just cause for the player to terminate his contract, subject to him complying with the notice of termination as per paragraph 1 above.

There is nothing about 30 days. Article 14ibs

 

[West Stand]

There is nothing about 30 days. Article 14ibs

12bis Overdue payables
1.
Clubs are required to comply with their financial obligations towards players and other clubs as per the terms stipulated in the contracts signed with their professional players and in the transfer agreements.
2.
Any club found to have delayed a due payment for more than 30 days without a prima facie contractual basis may be sanctioned in accordance with paragraph 4 below.

Within the scope of its jurisdiction (cf. article 22 to 24), the Football Tribunal may impose the following sanctions:
a) a warning;
b) areprimand;
c) a fine;
d) abanfromregisteringanynewplayers,eithernationallyorinternationally, for one or two entire and consecutive registration periods.

 

[kentblues]

12bis Overdue payables
1.
Clubs are required to comply with their financial obligations towards players and other clubs as per the terms stipulated in the contracts signed with their professional players and in the transfer agreements.
2.
Any club found to have delayed a due payment for more than 30 days without a prima facie contractual basis may be sanctioned in accordance with paragraph 4 below.

Within the scope of its jurisdiction (cf. article 22 to 24), the Football Tribunal may impose the following sanctions:
a) a warning;
b) areprimand;
c) a fine;
d) abanfromregisteringanynewplayers,eithernationallyorinternationally, for one or two entire and consecutive registration periods.

Yes this is entirely different but absolutely avoiding those sanctions important as it the other reason we could be under an embargo.

Hopefully paying HMRC and avoiding above is what is allowing the embargo to be lifted.

But its nothing to do with the players rights to walk away from their contracts and is hence not mentioned amongst the sanctions. Player contracts and remedies for breach are under the relevant section 14ibs. Indeed, if it was to do with that sections 12bis and 14ibs would be in conflict!!!

 

[West Stand]

Yes this is entirely different but absolutely avoiding those sanctions important as it the other reason we could be under an embargo.

Hopefully paying HMRC and avoiding above is what is allowing the embargo to be lifted.

nothing to do with the players rights to walk away from their contracts and is hence not mentioned amongst the sanctions. Player contracts and remedies for breach are under the relevant section 14ibs. Indeed, if it was to do with that sections 12bis and 14ibs would be in conflict!!!

The two issues are very much connected.

Players who aren’t paid on time for two months can give notice etc etc but running alongside that is the sanctions that FIFA can apply.

I am far from sure that just settling the HMRC subject to the WU order will be enough in itself there are a lot of other issues no doubt bubbling below the surface including the failure to lodge accounts et at companies house

We will see over the next few days

 

[rigsby]

Mach day staff I know were paid yesterday.

The majority on here knew that Ron would keep up his unbeaten record with HMRC. He will continue to do so until a stadium appears. Like it or not that is whats going to happen.

10,000 posts across every thread of doom and gloom. We are in danger of becoming the Harry and Meghan of football fans. Time to man up and act like our players. We are very much in the hunt for the play-offs and lets focus on the Barnet game.

Owners come and go and the club will be here long after Ron. Make sure you turn up Friday, its the first of 3 tough games. We want the boys to be off to the best start possible and us fans will make the difference.

 

[Scamps]

No, it really isn't.

The backroom staff are vital to the running of the club. Without them, the club does not run.

Not to mention the catering bills and brewery bills remain unpaid.

They pay the brewery up front, when I spoke to the bird who runs the east stand bar she said the club pays it up front before delivery

 

[ColinMorrisWalksOnWater]

Gateshead
The Independent Panel ruled Gateshead were deemed guilty of one breach of Rule 6.9 for failing to ensure all players were not under suspension prior to participating in a match – therefore fielding an ineligible player.


The Panel concluded that one point gained should be deducted from the Club’s record from playing season 2022/23 and a fine of £750 has additionally been issued.

Welling United
The Independent Panel ruled Welling United were deemed guilty of one breach of Rule 6.9 for failing to ensure a player had the required international transfer certificate prior to participating in two matches, therefore fielding an ineligible player.

Gateshead must be gutted at losing a point and us so far unscathed after Ron's financial expertise, or the lack of it.

 

[Maldon Blues]

Gateshead must be gutted at losing a point and us so far unscathed after Ron's financial expertise, or the lack of it.

Gateshead have, of course, previously been relegated from this league for financial irregularities.

To be fair, they did play a suspended player!

 

[ColinMorrisWalksOnWater]

Gateshead have, of course, previously been relegated from this league for financial irregularities.

To be fair, they did play a suspended player!

Spot on, but l just find it strange that we have avoided any action from the NL. And mightily relieved l hasten to add.

 

[CaptainSmudger]

Still don't understand how we've not had a points deduction!

SSSHHHHHH

 

[CaptainSmudger]

The loans cleared then?

 

[Callum]

Ron has a friend in court called the judge lol

 

[kentblues]

The two issues are very much connected.

Players who aren’t paid on time for two months can give notice etc etc but running alongside that is the sanctions that FIFA can apply.

I am far from sure that just settling the HMRC subject to the WU order will be enough in itself there are a lot of other issues no doubt bubbling below the surface including the failure to lodge accounts et at companies house

We will see over the next few days

But they wont as we haven't breached them. As you say rather than yet more speculation we can simply wait and see.

 

[kentblues]

Mach day staff I know were paid yesterday.

The majority on here knew that Ron would keep up his unbeaten record with HMRC. He will continue to do so until a stadium appears. Like it or not that is whats going to happen.

10,000 posts across every thread of doom and gloom. We are in danger of becoming the Harry and Meghan of football fans. Time to man up and act like our players. We are very much in the hunt for the play-offs and lets focus on the Barnet game.

Owners come and go and the club will be here long after Ron. Make sure you turn up Friday, its the first of 3 tough games. We want the boys to be off to the best start possible and us fans will make the difference.

Indeed. We seem to have become a financial forum for the disillusioned- have we even started a pre match thread for Fridays critical game of football?

 

[flangejackrabbit]

Indeed. We seem to have become a financial forum for the disillusioned- have we even started a pre match thread for Fridays critical game of football?

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