Ron Martin's Blog

[Mad Cyril]

In my opinion these comments do Ron no credit at all.

They create an impression that RM is happy to take the credit when things are going well but looks to offload the blame onto others when things are not.

 

[Southend_Lady]

For gods sake. There's no pleasing some people. TBF to Ron, he prob has bigger things on his mind than posting his blog this week! Yet he still manages to get something to print. Did anyone think that we were going to get answers and hard facts this week?! I for one didn't expect anything actually. It was merely an introduction. Perhaps next week we will get something with more weight. Until then, stop criticising. I doubt many chairmen would ever bother with something like this! At least he cares about our opinions and views - good or bad - which is more than can be said for a massive percentage of chairmen in all 4 leagues.

 

[ldnfatso]

For gods sake. There's no pleasing some people. TBF to Ron, he prob has bigger things on his mind than posting his blog this week! Yet he still manages to get something to print. Did anyone think that we were going to get answers and hard facts this week?! I for one didn't expect anything actually. It was merely an introduction. Perhaps next week we will get something with more weight. Until then, stop criticising. I doubt many chairmen would ever bother with something like this! At least he cares about our opinions and views - good or bad - which is more than can be said for a massive percentage of chairmen in all 4 leagues.

Thats a fair comment Sam but i'd rather him not bother than being spoon fed with meaningless tripe like yesterday. We are nearing the end of the transfer window yet he omitted to tell us what was in the process of being done or what had already been attempted but failed. At least we would then see what sort of ambitions we have or what limitations we have. Last night we couldn't/chose not to raise 5 players for the bench. We had 4 including 1 injured striker and 1 GK. Yet we have a striker in the reserves being paid more than some of the players who played last night who is continually ignored.

 

[fbm]

I appreciate your point, maybe Tilson doesn't give a monkeys. I also think that overall RM has been a brilliant chairman. I just think that those examples give off the impression that he is one to meddle in team affairs. Regarding the email response to another fan about Foran, I appreciate his honesty but I am surprised that he discloses to a fan that it is all Tilson's decision and that he disagrees with it (as if this wouldn't be reported on a messageboard) At this moment in time, I'd expect the management team to pull together, not to break ranks so easily.

I didn't read it that way.

What he said was this -

"I, too, would like to see Richie Foran featuring in the First Team squad."

Wouldn't we all?

Then he said

"It is therefore of no benefit to see him sit on the sidelines but equally if he does not feature in the Manager’s plans that is where he will remain until his contract expires in the summer."

That's not breaking ranks... that's being supportive. It also doesn't infer that he disagrees with Tilly... it just makes the point that he would like to see a highly paid player feature in the squad.

 

[Pubey]

I didn't read it that way.

What he said was this -

"I, too, would like to see Richie Foran featuring in the First Team squad."

Wouldn't we all?

Then he said

"It is therefore of no benefit to see him sit on the sidelines but equally if he does not feature in the Manager’s plans that is where he will remain until his contract expires in the summer."

That's not breaking ranks... that's being supportive. It also doesn't infer that he disagrees with Tilly... it just makes the point that he would like to see a highly paid player feature in the squad.

and a player that has proven to be useful at this level and although had a horror show in the leeds game, wasn't bad in other games where he featured.

 

[The Flying Scotsman]

I got to the end of it and thought what a waste of a few minutes, and why is he talking about team matters?

 

[grassroots]

Lots of waffle and no substance - telling us what we already know. Very much like his unwarranted 'outrage' at the Echo the other day on the website. I'll go with a couple of other posters here, I'm on the fence re RM - toppling the wrong way at the moment

 

[The Flying Scotsman]

Lots of waffle and no substance - telling us what we already know. Very much like his unwarranted 'outrage' at the Echo the other day on the website. I'll go with a couple of other posters here, I'm on the fence re RM - toppling the wrong way at the moment

Didn't quite get that outrage myself, probably not helped by the fact I didn't read both articles in full, mainly due to the fact I couldn't see what the issue was. The Echo said the stadium was delayed, and RM seemed to agree that it had been delayed as well. Maybe the specifics were different but the fundamental issue is the stadium has been delayed.

 

[ldnfatso]

I was surprised there wasn't a Recipe at the end of it though! Perhaps Ron can't cook!

 

[TJC]

Originally Posted by TJC View Post
Good on you Ron! Like others have said, he can't reveal everything and nor should we expect him to.
The fact he is trying to engage the fans is admirable in my opinion.
The fact is, we've never had it so good, and the first sign of a few blips and suddenly hes branded a villian.
Get real!
Eh?...how do you get to that assumption?

Ok. Tell me which manager and Chairman combination in our recent past where we have been better.

 

[fbm]

Ok. Tell me which manager and Chairman combination in our recent past where we have been better.

At any point in our history, not just the recent past!

 

[Cricko]

Has anyone asked themselves why is it that a Co-Owner of SZ is so very quick to [a] react to rebuke anyone who dares to criticise RM and seeks to put words into RM's mouth, or be his mouthpiece.

Surely he can and has stated he will answer for himself, so I must seriously question why Cricko should be apparently so touchy on this.

2 quick rebukes to the first two desenters, yet this is supposed to be a place where everyones views can be aired ? Problem is that when a co-owner does this [and their rights are acknowledged also] it must make some wary of daring to post anything remotely analytical of Mr Martin's comments.

There just comes a time where the Music you post wears a bit thin....Dog with a Bone springs to mind...I do not doubt your worries Ian and I do appreciate all the effort you put in, in trying to solve the unanswerable but as you had a meeting with Ron and were told at that time "Anymore questions you have feel free to contact me", why not go down that road.

John.. i really want to know this, are you in a relationship with Ron? It does seem odd, that whatever he says, you take as Gospel??

I don't J..Maybe I am more of an optimist that a pessimist though..Only time will tell I guess.

Cricko, the fact that after 10 minutes of the blog being on SZ nobody had even made a comment bar me, so don't give me that rubbish!!

I honestly thought the piece was unadulterated Bollocks (thanks James for letting us use that word). It told us absolutely nothing new. I have to admit that i wasn't expecting the full answers re Finances, Stadium, Transfers, Foran, Food Bar inadequacies etc in the first installment, however i also wasn't expecting him to insult our intelligence in saying that buying a forward should mean we will be able to hold the ball up better and therefore relieve our midfield and defence of pressure. Whilst i respect Ron for keeping in touch with the fans via these blogs, the occasional Q & A session and even personal replies to emails, i still do not feel the sun shines out of his @r$e. Cricko, the sooner you stop brown nosing Ron and realize that he has an agenda to make a lot of money for himself and is using the club as a vehicle for doing so, the better.

What more answers do you want Steve?...Where is this agenda then as the club is in debt.....So what he makes a few quid if we get the stadium etc..he came in when we were close to bankruptcy..has since written off 1.5 million of our debt....Charges nothing for the ground lease or the training ground to the club ..albeit this may be inter company policy,,of which I have no idea of as my nose is not quiet that far up his harris as you imagine.

 

[mattytheshrimper]

The Ron Martin Blog of Excuses

only talk about the bloody stadium, boringggggggggggg

 

[Irate Ian]

Everyone's entitled to an opinion, be they a co-owner or someone posting for the very first time. So Cricko backs Ron Martin. Big deal. I'm not entirely sure why that should be an issue.

If people want to criticise Ron Martin, then this is a perfect place to do so. Although if it is done incessantly it can get a little wearing....

Being an extension of RM's Blog, or mouthpiece and prepared to stamp on or demean another, so quickly, who dares to criticise, is a different scenario.

Balanced criticism can only be healthy.

Your reference to incessantly criticising, if directed at yours truly, is way off the mark. "Raising issues, or questions" is again as distinct as chalk and cheese to "criticism".

Please never let it be said in my name having criticised RM "incessantly", repeatedly, or even regularly. I may have poked some fun in his direction, but challenge you or others to find any criticism of RM in ANY of my posts, over my 4 years of SZoning.

I would be surprised if any found, as it is not in my make-up, though I do reserve to analyse, disect and question on what I consider to be important issues of concern, where lack of detailed information exists.

The basis or formulation of any questions can be gathered from first exchanging views with others on the zone - even those who have totally polarised views.

 

[united we stand]

Has anyone asked themselves why is it that a Co-Owner of SZ is so very quick to [a] react to rebuke anyone who dares to criticise RM and seeks to put words into RM's mouth, or be his mouthpiece.

Surely he can and has stated he will answer for himself, so I must seriously question why Cricko should be apparently so touchy on this.

2 quick rebukes to the first two desenters, yet this is supposed to be a place where everyones views can be aired ? Problem is that when a co-owner does this [and their rights are acknowledged also] it must make some wary of daring to post anything remotely analytical of Mr Martin's comments.

Ian, you are one of my favourite posters on this site and I agree with a lot of what you say (I just never used to post) , and I think I understand your motives and the way you use logic.

Having said all that, this is the worst post I have ever read by you. His comments are completely understandable to me- and are fired off at posters who have given illogical 'lazy' comments. You used the word 'analytical' -- there was nothing analytical in their comments, in fact I don't see him having a go at anyone who has posted anything that had some thought put into it

sorry- thats how I see it, and I do try and be positive.

 

[Irate Ian]

Ian, you are one of my favourite posters on this site and I agree with a lot of what you say (I just never used to post) , and I think I understand your motives and the way you use logic.

Having said all that, this is the worst post I have ever read by you. His comments are completely understandable to me- and are fired off at posters who have given illogical 'lazy' comments. You used the word 'analytical' -- there was nothing analytical in their comments, in fact I don't see him having a go at anyone who has posted anything that had some thought put into it

sorry- thats how I see it, and I do try and be positive.

Sorry, maybe I did not make it clear. Will translate [as others have put it previously in relation to other posts by me]:-

I do not say I agree with the criticising post - rebuked by John, Co-Owner (Cricko) - I make no comment one way or the other, merely that the demeaning rebuke was OTT - wholly unecessary.

The concern is that The Co-Owner is showing signs of being RM's right arm man on SZ and hence the analagy and use of the word: "Mouthpiece" or if you like Co-Spin Doctor.

 

[canveyshrimper]

Sorry, maybe I did not make it clear. Will translate [as others have put it previously in relation to other posts by me]:-

I do not say I agree with the criticising post - rebuked by John, Co-Owner (Cricko) - I make no comment one way or the other, merely that the demeaning rebuke was OTT - wholly unecessary.

The concern is that The Co-Owner is showing signs of being RM's right arm man on SZ and hence the analagy and use of the word: "Mouthpiece" or if you like Co-Spin Doctor.

I am sure you must post in English, but there seems to be a language filter around your posts which translate them to Esperanto.

 

[Cricko]

Sorry, maybe I did not make it clear. Will translate [as others have put it previously in relation to other posts by me]:-

I do not say I agree with the criticising post - rebuked by John, Co-Owner (Cricko) - I make no comment one way or the other, merely that the demeaning rebuke was OTT - wholly unecessary.

The concern is that The Co-Owner is showing signs of being RM's right arm man on SZ and hence the analagy and use of the word: "Mouthpiece" or if you like Co-Spin Doctor.

Signs?.Please Ian...I just believe the glass is half full..I would say we are in the poo big time at the moment...I am no Mouthpiece....As I have advised more times than I care to think of..If you have a question that keeps you awake at night, contact Ron as HE asked you to.

 

[Irate Ian]

Didn't quite get that outrage myself, probably not helped by the fact I didn't read both articles in full, mainly due to the fact I couldn't see what the issue was. The Echo said the stadium was delayed, and RM seemed to agree that it had been delayed as well. Maybe the specifics were different but the fundamental issue is the stadium has been delayed.

Ron is a businessman. He should not be getting upset with mis-quoting, mis-interpretation of - or even the twisting of his words by the press, simply put; it goes with the territory.

What the press do, to make a headline, even though it may not have been newsworthy to us on here.

Some managers, chairman make, No Comment, others provide press releases or blogs of their own and insist their words be printed in entirety, without amendment, or not at all. Take your choice Ron, but no point becoming "Irate" ? ! ?

 

[Cricko]

Ron is a businessman. He should not be getting upset with mis-quoting, mis-interpretation of - or even the twisting of his words by the press, simply put; it goes with the territory.

What the press do, to make a headline, even though it may not have been newsworthy to us on here.

Some managers, chairman make, No Comment, others provide press releases or blogs of their own and insist their words be printed in entirety, without amendment, or not at all. Take your choice Ron, but no point becoming Irate.

I have no more answers to this Bollocks.