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Well it’s not exactly “Breaking News” as this news broke sixty years ago when in Season 1951-52 Southend beat Oldham 5-0 in the second round of the Cup while an announcement was made about the new stadium (Roots Hall) being delayed. This how it was in early December 1951:


Blues management have decided to make the Oldham game at the Stadium an all-ticket match. Season Ticket holders only will be allowed to reserve their normal seats and their applications should reach United by first post on Saturday enclosing a stamped self addressed envelope. Under the F.A. Cup regulations Oldham have been allocated 25 per cent of Blues seating accommodation and gates for this match will open at 1 p.m.

Over 2,000 Oldham supporters will arrive in the early hours on Saturday ready to cheer their side. This is the first time these two teams have met in this competition and the contrasting styles should provide an interesting game. Practically every factory in the area is organising an excursion to Southend. Many of these trips are being run by the firms own buses. They will leave Oldham at midnight on Friday and travel through the night. after the game most of them will commence the return journey immediately as many are due to start a night work shift on Sunday. The Oldham side are to travel to Southend on Friday and after the game will spend the night in London. Special arrangements are being made to deal with the buses and coaches from Oldham. The Northern clubs allocation of 200 tickets for this match were sold out within an hour and everything points to this game attracting one of the heaviest gates of the Season.

Forget the rumours that Blues are going to sign a south African left winger from Luton, Blues representatives watched him once or twice but he did not come up to expectations.

ROOTS HALL MAY NOT BE UNITED’S FOR YEARS
Any hopes of Southend United moving their headquarters to Roots Hall within the next few years were dashed by statements from Mr. A.I. Hay M.B.E. club chairman at the United’s annual meeting on Friday. He revealed United were negotiating for a new short lease at the Stadium and that snags had arisen in the draft agreement with the Corporation for the purchase of the ground at Roots Hall. As to when United would move to Roots Hall, Mr. Hay was vague “it may or may not be in our lifetime but we will have at least have obtained a permanent home for the club”. Finally Mr. Hay referred to the substantial drop in gates both during the year under review and during the present season. He appealed to residents to support the club. “the team is serving up attractive football and yet the attendances are dwindling he said.

F.A.Cup Round 2
Saturday 15th December 1951
Southend United 5-0 Oldham Athletic.

Blues were soon on the offensive forcing a corner and the flag kick just headed wide by French, but within a few seconds Blues goal also had a narrow escape. After twelve minutes Blues went ahead through a wonder goal from Wakefield, French took the ball down field crossed and Wakefield with a grand header screwed the ball into the narrow gap left by the advancing goalkeeper. Oldham fought back and forced three successive corners, but just before half time Blues went further ahead through Wakefield, Sibley slipping the pass to Wakefield who crashed the ball into the net past the advancing goalkeeper. The goalkeeper was injured in the subsequent collision and had to be taken to Southend General Hospital with leg injuries but was allowed to leave and return home with his team. In the second half their was little fire in the Oldham side., and after 52 minutes Stubbs headed in the third goal, from a Sibley corner. In the 60th minute Grant increased this lead from a Sibley centre. Stubbs had another goal disallowed because of an infringement, but eight minutes from time Wakefield added the fifth and final goal. Team: Scannell; Loughran and Anderson; French, Sheard and Lawler; Sibley, McAlinden, Wakefield, Grant and Stubbs.
 
Well it’s not exactly “Breaking News” as this news broke sixty years ago when in Season 1951-52 Southend beat Oldham 5-0 in the second round of the Cup while an announcement was made about the new stadium (Roots Hall) being delayed. This how it was in early December 1951:


Blues management have decided to make the Oldham game at the Stadium an all-ticket match. Season Ticket holders only will be allowed to reserve their normal seats and their applications should reach United by first post on Saturday enclosing a stamped self addressed envelope. Under the F.A. Cup regulations Oldham have been allocated 25 per cent of Blues seating accommodation and gates for this match will open at 1 p.m.

Over 2,000 Oldham supporters will arrive in the early hours on Saturday ready to cheer their side. This is the first time these two teams have met in this competition and the contrasting styles should provide an interesting game. Practically every factory in the area is organising an excursion to Southend. Many of these trips are being run by the firms own buses. They will leave Oldham at midnight on Friday and travel through the night. after the game most of them will commence the return journey immediately as many are due to start a night work shift on Sunday. The Oldham side are to travel to Southend on Friday and after the game will spend the night in London. Special arrangements are being made to deal with the buses and coaches from Oldham. The Northern clubs allocation of 200 tickets for this match were sold out within an hour and everything points to this game attracting one of the heaviest gates of the Season.

Forget the rumours that Blues are going to sign a south African left winger from Luton, Blues representatives watched him once or twice but he did not come up to expectations.

ROOTS HALL MAY NOT BE UNITED’S FOR YEARS
Any hopes of Southend United moving their headquarters to Roots Hall within the next few years were dashed by statements from Mr. A.I. Hay M.B.E. club chairman at the United’s annual meeting on Friday. He revealed United were negotiating for a new short lease at the Stadium and that snags had arisen in the draft agreement with the Corporation for the purchase of the ground at Roots Hall. As to when United would move to Roots Hall, Mr. Hay was vague “it may or may not be in our lifetime but we will have at least have obtained a permanent home for the club”. Finally Mr. Hay referred to the substantial drop in gates both during the year under review and during the present season. He appealed to residents to support the club. “the team is serving up attractive football and yet the attendances are dwindling he said.

F.A.Cup Round 2
Saturday 15th December 1951
Southend United 5-0 Oldham Athletic.

Blues were soon on the offensive forcing a corner and the flag kick just headed wide by French, but within a few seconds Blues goal also had a narrow escape. After twelve minutes Blues went ahead through a wonder goal from Wakefield, French took the ball down field crossed and Wakefield with a grand header screwed the ball into the narrow gap left by the advancing goalkeeper. Oldham fought back and forced three successive corners, but just before half time Blues went further ahead through Wakefield, Sibley slipping the pass to Wakefield who crashed the ball into the net past the advancing goalkeeper. The goalkeeper was injured in the subsequent collision and had to be taken to Southend General Hospital with leg injuries but was allowed to leave and return home with his team. In the second half their was little fire in the Oldham side., and after 52 minutes Stubbs headed in the third goal, from a Sibley corner. In the 60th minute Grant increased this lead from a Sibley centre. Stubbs had another goal disallowed because of an infringement, but eight minutes from time Wakefield added the fifth and final goal. Team: Scannell; Loughran and Anderson; French, Sheard and Lawler; Sibley, McAlinden, Wakefield, Grant and Stubbs.

I particularly like the bit in red. Could be a statement from our current hierarchy that.
 
Well it’s not exactly “Breaking News” as this news broke sixty years ago when in Season 1951-52 Southend beat Oldham 5-0 in the second round of the Cup while an announcement was made about the new stadium (Roots Hall) being delayed. This how it was in early December 1951:


Blues management have decided to make the Oldham game at the Stadium an all-ticket match. Season Ticket holders only will be allowed to reserve their normal seats and their applications should reach United by first post on Saturday enclosing a stamped self addressed envelope. Under the F.A. Cup regulations Oldham have been allocated 25 per cent of Blues seating accommodation and gates for this match will open at 1 p.m.

Over 2,000 Oldham supporters will arrive in the early hours on Saturday ready to cheer their side. This is the first time these two teams have met in this competition and the contrasting styles should provide an interesting game. Practically every factory in the area is organising an excursion to Southend. Many of these trips are being run by the firms own buses. They will leave Oldham at midnight on Friday and travel through the night. after the game most of them will commence the return journey immediately as many are due to start a night work shift on Sunday. The Oldham side are to travel to Southend on Friday and after the game will spend the night in London. Special arrangements are being made to deal with the buses and coaches from Oldham. The Northern clubs allocation of 200 tickets for this match were sold out within an hour and everything points to this game attracting one of the heaviest gates of the Season.

Forget the rumours that Blues are going to sign a south African left winger from Luton, Blues representatives watched him once or twice but he did not come up to expectations.

ROOTS HALL MAY NOT BE UNITED’S FOR YEARS
Any hopes of Southend United moving their headquarters to Roots Hall within the next few years were dashed by statements from Mr. A.I. Hay M.B.E. club chairman at the United’s annual meeting on Friday. He revealed United were negotiating for a new short lease at the Stadium and that snags had arisen in the draft agreement with the Corporation for the purchase of the ground at Roots Hall. As to when United would move to Roots Hall, Mr. Hay was vague “it may or may not be in our lifetime but we will have at least have obtained a permanent home for the club”. Finally Mr. Hay referred to the substantial drop in gates both during the year under review and during the present season. He appealed to residents to support the club. “the team is serving up attractive football and yet the attendances are dwindling he said.F.A.Cup Round 2
Saturday 15th December 1951
Southend United 5-0 Oldham Athletic.

Blues were soon on the offensive forcing a corner and the flag kick just headed wide by French, but within a few seconds Blues goal also had a narrow escape. After twelve minutes Blues went ahead through a wonder goal from Wakefield, French took the ball down field crossed and Wakefield with a grand header screwed the ball into the narrow gap left by the advancing goalkeeper. Oldham fought back and forced three successive corners, but just before half time Blues went further ahead through Wakefield, Sibley slipping the pass to Wakefield who crashed the ball into the net past the advancing goalkeeper. The goalkeeper was injured in the subsequent collision and had to be taken to Southend General Hospital with leg injuries but was allowed to leave and return home with his team. In the second half their was little fire in the Oldham side., and after 52 minutes Stubbs headed in the third goal, from a Sibley corner. In the 60th minute Grant increased this lead from a Sibley centre. Stubbs had another goal disallowed because of an infringement, but eight minutes from time Wakefield added the fifth and final goal. Team: Scannell; Loughran and Anderson; French, Sheard and Lawler; Sibley, McAlinden, Wakefield, Grant and Stubbs.

They were worried about crowds!!

Most League crowds that season were over 10,000. The crowd for this Oldham match was 13,300 the next League crowd was 15,000 and the FA Cup crowds that season all at home were 18,920 against Southampton, 22,429 against Bristol Rovers (match highlights here - http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=29727) and 21,887 against Sheffield United. We also had a League crowd of 18,000 against Reading later that season.
 
I liked the rumour about signing a winger.

(my guess , assisted by Mr google, is that it was Roy Davies, However they had only just signed him from Clyde and he went on to play 150 games and score 24 goals , but I doubt they had many other SA wingers on their books at the time)
 
They were worried about crowds!!

Most League crowds that season were over 10,000. The crowd for this Oldham match was 13,300 the next League crowd was 15,000 and the FA Cup crowds that season all at home were 18,920 against Southampton, 22,429 against Bristol Rovers (match highlights here - http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=29727) and 21,887 against Sheffield United. We also had a League crowd of 18,000 against Reading later that season.

Seems silly now but the gates in the post war boom were high, in 1949-50 Southend finished third and the gates were higner then than the following two seasons and the move to Roots Hall was first initiated. Suggestions at the time even said the capacity at RH could be as much as 50,000 and the future of Blues was seen in the Second Division in front of huge gates. The reality was that as the war became more a memory, rationing reduced, home entertainment was on the increase. Most homes now had a radio, and access to a television was a lot more common place, the attraction of watchig football in all weather in a sub standard ground was not appealing.

Does all this sound familar?????
 
Except i would be HUGELY surprised if we put 5 past Oldham, we might sneak a win but i think a draw and a lovely Tuesday night in Oldham awaits :scared:

If Oldham get their keeper carried off and have to play the rest of the match with 10 men and an outfield player in goal , we might repeat it
 
Except i would be HUGELY surprised if we put 5 past Oldham, we might sneak a win but i think a draw and a lovely Tuesday night in Oldham awaits :scared:

Nope, if we are still in the time warp then we can't play in the dark so the replay will have to be at 2pm on Weds afternoon to coincide with half day closing.

Just think, if message boards had been around 60 years ago thats the sort of thing we would have been discussing!
 
Is that OBL at 2 mins 20 ?? :unsure:

I know the bit you mean without even looking at the clip again!!

Looks like there were quite a few Bristol Rovers fans there that day, because when we score the winning goal, no one is celebrating in the background in that part of the ground. It would be nice to go back to the days when the whole town turned out for FA Cup matches.
 
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For the Bristol game it has been decided to open the gates at noon as five special trains from Bristol will arrive just before mid-day and Rovers are expected to bring at least 8,000 spectators. Bristol wanted to bring their own band but Southend’s musicians are quite capable of playing “Good-night Irene” the Rovers signature tune and not forgetting our own little ditty “All pull together”

F.A.Cup Round 4
Saturday 2nd February 1952
Southend United 2-1 Bristol Rovers.
The game was a fight to the finish and what a finish it was, with Jack French putting paid to Rovers hopes nine minutes from time. The Rovers fans were hushed. The strains of “Goodnight Irene” which was sung virtually non-stop since they took the lead two minutes after the interval, died away and were not heard again.
 
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