Cost of living increases

[Holy Joe]

20% Pay rise, they're having a laugh.

They don't get my support at all.

When they were offered 3% by the Gov, I was in full support of them because that was taking the Biscuit, now they're taking the Biscuit.

I'd imagine the 20% is an negotiating offer rather than a red line.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

20% Pay rise, they're having a laugh.

They don't get my support at all.

When they were offered 3% by the Gov, I was in full support of them because that was taking the Biscuit, now they're taking the Biscuit.

Are you for or against taking the biscuit?

 

[blueblueblue]

I'd imagine the 20% is an negotiating offer rather than a red line.

20% from a reasonable 6-7% is miles apart, this will go on for some time.

 

[blueblueblue]

Are you for or against taking the biscuit?

Read my last post.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

The premise of a simple % pay rise for nurses and NHS (and other jobs) workers is, imo, wrong, be it 3 or 20%.
Especially when championed as a cost of living claim.
More valid would be a wage rise across the board of a set amount, maybe £2k?
That way the leveling out would be done with the lowest paid getting a much higher, much needed % rise over those getting paid much higher already.

 

[pottster]

20% from a reasonable 6-7% is miles apart, this will go on for some time.

Rolls Royce employees got 17.5 % recently

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Fords got,iirc, 14% this year on 2nd part of old deal which was made based on low inflation expectations. Fords got it wrong and workers got better deal than believed likely when set.

RR are making lots of profit atm.

 

[blueblueblue]

Fords got,iirc, 14% this year on 2nd part of old deal which was made based on low inflation expectations. Fords got it wrong and workers got better deal than believed likely when set.

RR are making lots of profit atm.

Some good pay increases in the Private sector for sure.

 

[Holy Joe]

20% from a reasonable 6-7% is miles apart, this will go on for some time.

Whilst inflation is >10% why is 6 or 7% reasonable?

 

[pottster]

The thing is the government ( taxpayer) are paying these rates plus more in agency staff already. If they paid them a decent wage they would save that in not having to pay agency staff. Nurses are leaving in high numbers and not being replaced, the system now is barely functioning. Paying people crap money is hardly an enticement to becoming a nurse.

 

[blueblueblue]

Whilst inflation is >10% why is 6 or 7% reasonable?

Why is 20% reasonable to ask for?

 

[Holy Joe]

Why is 20% reasonable to ask for?

I asked first.

 

[pottster]

Earlier this year basildon were paying bank/ agency 440 a day to work in some wards. Specialist nurses were being shipped in and put up in hotels and paid 600 a day through agencies. This is happening all over the country. The taxpayer is picking this bill up but let's just give them 6% and keep things as they are.

 

[blueblueblue]

I asked first.

Not at all.

They will never get that, maybe half with the pressure.

The Army got 4% and they cover all these arseholes all the time.

How about a campain for Soldiers to get a 100% increase in wages, I'd support that and they deserve it.

They are the worst paid Gov workers in the Country.

 

[pottster]

Not at all.

They will never get that, maybe half with the pressure.

The Army got 4% and they cover all these arseholes all the time.

How about a campain for Soldiers to get a 100% increase in wages, I'd support that and they deserve it.

They are the worst paid Gov workers in the Country.

Why 100%? Not aware that the army is going to cover the nurses or has the ability to do so. Not sure about the army being the lowest paid either, most council jobs are pretty badly paid. Although I read that they have just recieved 10.5%

 

[blueblueblue]

Why 100%? Not aware that the army is going to cover the nurses or has the ability to do so. Not sure about the army being the lowest paid either, most council jobs are pretty badly paid. Although I read that they have just recieved 10.5%

look up the pay bands a private is on (20k) a year and has to pay for her/his food and accommodation, boot and Brase Polish. This is a typical Civilian comment who knows nothing about the British Army.

They're very underpaid.

The Army covers everyone who goes on strike.

Quite frankly I'm shocked that someone has questioned they don't deserve more.

 

[Holy Joe]

Not at all.

They will never get that, maybe half with the pressure.

The Army got 4% and they cover all these arseholes all the time.

How about a campain for Soldiers to get a 100% increase in wages, I'd support that and they deserve it.

They are the worst paid Gov workers in the Country.

I'm not justifying a 20% increase (I'm sure the Nurses might be able - maybe they've had below inflation pay rises fo for a number of years, so there's an element of catch up). But I think they're quite justified in asking for it, as the opening round in negotiations. Let's face it if you want 20% you wouldn't go into negotiations and ask for 20% straight up, you'd start higher.

Just because another area of Govt workers have received a lower % rise, doesn't mean another area has to - that's a race to the bottom which would have employers rubbing their hands in glee. If workers cannot get a decent pay rise in the current conditions of high inflation and a shortage of workers then they never will.

 

[RHB]

This is getting perilously close to a political discussion. If it does cross the line then the offending posts will mysteriously disappear.

 

[blueblueblue]

I'm not justifying a 20% increase (I'm sure the Nurses might be able - maybe they've had below inflation pay rises fo for a number of years, so there's an element of catch up). But I think they're quite justified in asking for it, as the opening round in negotiations. Let's face it if you want 20% you wouldn't go into negotiations and ask for 20% straight up, you'd start higher.

Just because another area of Govt workers have received a lower % rise, doesn't mean another area has to - that's a race to the bottom which would have employers rubbing their hands in glee. If workers cannot get a decent pay rise in the current conditions of high inflation and a shortage of workers then they never will.

You youngers have got to pay for it, not me, I have about 20 years left in me, good luck with that :)

 

[kaymac]

Any chances of having a few MPs 'mysteriously disappear'....?