Official Match Thread Morecambe v Southend United

[Petejames]

Ok

New calculator required here!

my mistake

 

[wiggy]

New calculator required here!

....are you new here?
It was hardly a worldy and you only get one point for a draw....line him up Ron, next manager.....PETEJAMES!

 

[crangoner]

A pity it's too late now,isn't it?

What mathematical limitations are saying it's too late? You might want us to be relegated already if you think it will ease your pain but it's not really the mindset of a true fan, is it?

 

[Billy Bests boot laces]

What mathematical limitations are saying it's too late? You might want us to be relegated already if you think it will ease your pain but it's not really the mindset of a true fan, is it?

None of us want relegation, every week we cling on to hope & expectation that we're suddenly go on a winning run?.
To suggest any true fan wishes for our departure from the football league is total nonsense?.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

What mathematical limitations are saying it's too late? You might want us to be relegated already if you think it will ease your pain but it's not really the mindset of a true fan, is it?

Perhaps not.But it's a realistic one.We're down,

 

[Barry.C]

Was surprised by the lack of urgency shown at times in the last 20 minutes

 

[crangoner]

To suggest any true fan wishes for our departure from the football league is total nonsense?

I agree that would be a tautology. I would also label the incessant, triumphant calls of "we're down" from 'realists' as not coming from true fans.

 

[Barling Magna]

I'll have four of whatever they are drinking please.

They went on to say that only Grimsby have looked true relegation candidates. Barrow, Colchester and now Southend all seem reasonable teams in their eyes.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I agree that would be a tautology. I would also label the incessant, triumphant calls of "we're down" from 'realists' as not coming from true fans.

Perhaps you'd care to define what a "true fan " is in your opinion?

 

[crangoner]

Perhaps you'd care to define what a "true fan " is in your opinion?

As I've just outlined, one readily identifiable trait might be acting purposefully defeatist, shrouding themself as a 'realist' and offering "incessant, triumphant calls of 'we're down'". I'll leave that there.

 

[CM2 Blue]

A decent battling performance tonight against a team that is clearly better than we are. It won’t be this result and performance that sees us relegated. What struck me about our goal was the quality of Elvis’s cross. Even we would have been hard pressed to avoid getting the ball in the net. But I can’t remember any other crosses this season of that quality. We either balloon them high or fail to beat the first defender and its the same with corners. Hard though we have battled in a lot of games we fail to execute the basics consistently enough to exert pressure and make it count. Of course, having a striker worthy of the name would help!

 

[Billy Bests boot laces]

I agree that would be a tautology. I would also label the incessant, triumphant calls of "we're down" from 'realists' as not coming from true fans.

I've never heard the word 'tautology' mentioned before, have no idea what it mean's?. Certainly wasn't ever mentioned in my English lessons at Belfairs High nigh on 50 years ago!.
I consider myself a 'true fan', having attended games for 54 years, & probably travelled more miles to watch away games, than Phillias Fogg did in his travels!.
I'm a glass 1/2 full guy rather than 1/2 empty, but alas i really don't see how we're get out of this tragic mess?.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

As I've just outlined, one readily identifiable trait might be acting purposefully defeatist, shrouding themself as a 'realist' and offering "incessant, triumphant calls of 'we're down'". I'll leave that there.

IF you think I, or any other SUFC fan, enjoys the prospect of us playing in the NL next season you're mistaken.

Otherwise I fail to understand what point you might be trying to make,

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

I've never heard the word 'tautology' mentioned before, have no idea what it mean's?. Certainly wasn't ever mentioned in my English lessons at Belfairs High nigh on 50 years ago!.
I consider myself a 'true fan', having attended games for 54 years, & probably travelled more miles to watch away games, than Phillias Fogg did in his travels!.
I'm a glass 1/2 full guy rather than 1/2 empty, but alas i really don't see how we're get out of this tragic mess?.

Exactly that, being a realist makes you a lesser supporter to some folk on here which just isn’t true in most cases.

 

[Billy Bests boot laces]

We're going to get humped

So was my 'other half' if we'd kept that lead. Probably now have another couple of beers, & sleep in the spare room!.

 

[united we stand]

Was surprised by the lack of urgency shown at times in the last 20 minutes

Be honest, you wasn’t really surprised

 

[crangoner]

Exactly that, being a realist makes you a lesser supporter to some folk on here which just isn’t true in most cases.

A realist "we're in a very tough situation. I can't see us gaining enough ground to stay up(, but stranger things have happened.)" [I've added the bit in parentheses cos you get some optimist and some pessimistic realists, eh]
A defeatist "we're down. There's no way back."
A noticeable difference, although it might only subtle to some people, but a difference nonetheless. Also, it's one defeatists often like to ignore so they can pretend they're actually realists.

 

[Stuart W]

I think the point being made is that statements like "we are down" are defeatist, but also are clearly not true.
So what do you say on Saturday if Col U lose at Oldham on Friday night and we defeat Crawley on Saturday?
5 games left, 2 points in it and away games left at Col U and Barrow. Away games crucially, where our form since the beginning of December has been good.
Yes the position is not great, but we are categorically not down.

 

[Stuart W]

Was surprised by the lack of urgency shown at times in the last 20 minutes

Totally agree. Not least Mark Oxley, who absolutely MUST go back to the goal-line to tap his sodding boots against the post for no apparant reason.

 

[wombleshrimper]

It’s not over till after the Col u game
We will know by then one way or another
3 games time