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I guess there was a

I think Mr Tim Deacon meant he was looking forward to cashing-in from the development whilst the townspeople would be left with yet another white elephant, courtesy of the incumbents at SBC. As for him citing leisure facilites, surely FFS would also come under that category?

I wonder if Deacon was able to stop his motorcycle courier with the fat brown envelope to SBC in time???

 

[The Big Dady]

I guess there was a

I wonder if Deacon was able to stop his motorcycle courier with the fat brown envelope to SBC in time???

Think that got lost along with the £1.00 they were supposed to pay for the Seaway Car Park 152 year lease, or perhaps they could not find anywhere to park.

 

[discord]

Perhaps we could have our roundabout back at Vic circus please, whoever planned that mother of all traffic jam creators needs to be kept away from any sort of developing in this town!

 

[The Big Dady]

Southend County Council are not having much luck at the moment as it looks like another one of its pet development projects could be in jeopardy.

Southend Queensway: Why the long-awaited £500m plans may collapse



PLANS for 1,650 new homes could collapse after Tories vowed to vote against the £500million Queensway project if the underpass is filled.

Plans to raise the underpass – a key link between the town centre and seafront – and fill the space with a water tank to prevent seafront flooding would create traffic chaos according to Tory councillors.

Leader Tony Cox claimed, during a meeting of the policy and scrutiny committee, removing the underpass would create “gridlock”.

He said: “The support for causing carnage and gridlock in this town isn’t from this group. This group will not support the change to the underpass.”

He added the proposal was an “absurd suggestion” and he hopes “common sense prevails”.

When the change to the underpass was revealed during a public consultation event, Tory councillors said they were shocked by the change and called for it to be scrapped.

But leaked documents later revealed the change had been included in confidential papers which had been approved in February, when the Tories were in charge of the council.

Council leader, Labour’s Ian Gilbert said: “The proposal to raise the underpass is not a new proposal.

“If he [Tony Cox] said ‘we’ve looked at this and it’s a problem’, we would be saying yes we can see there are problems and we will look for ways they can be mitigated, that is our position and if the opposition wants to play the blame game, they are on shaky ground.”

Mr Gilbert said the plans are not final and removing changes to the underpass is possible but it would require trade-offs.

The huge Queensway town centre housing scheme involves demolishing tower blocks and building new homes.

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[Massimo Giovanni]

Queensway is monstrous a ghetto to rival garrison estate Purfleet, or Craylands Basildon. Why don't these councils learn to build homes people want to live in? Corruption?

 

[kaymac]

Very much doubt these homes are intended for local people to live in....more likely people shipped out from London boroughs and/or EU citizens.

 

[Cricko]

Very much doubt these homes are intended for local people to live in....more likely people shipped out from London boroughs and/or EU citizens.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/oct/25/london-dumping-ground-essex-skeleton-crossrail-closet

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Very much doubt these homes are intended for local people to live in....more likely people shipped out from London boroughs and/or EU citizens.

There are social houses at the back of the new estate along the north of Hall Road, Rochford. Many have been bought up off plan and are now used by London Boroughs to flytip their unhousables.
Funny that the crime rate in Rochford is on the up, just when the police station and any police presence has gone. New amenities are a few brothels and several "street chemists".

The developer signed up to building doctors surgery etc when 700 homes were built but after that scaled the estate down to 600+ homes only so none of the facilities "promised" will be built unless the tax payers make it so.
Smelly?

 

[Cricko]

@Massimo Giovanni . It was also scaled down so they didn't have to build the school that was originally agreed.

 

[Cricko]

Every housing project starts off with promise of affordable housing ( whatever that is these days) to gain planning permission. Once the build has got going, the developers change and suddenly those numbers change dramatically with the usual bull**** excuses. It is a proven tactic they have been getting away with for years.

 

[kaymac]

There are social houses at the back of the new estate along the north of Hall Road, Rochford. Many have been bought up off plan and are now used by London Boroughs to flytip their unhousables.
Funny that the crime rate in Rochford is on the up, just when the police station and any police presence has gone. New amenities are a few brothels and several "street chemists".

The developer signed up to building doctors surgery etc when 700 homes were built but after that scaled the estate down to 600+ homes only so none of the facilities "promised" will be built unless the tax payers make it so.
Smelly?

Yep, the lovely folk in Hall Road were shipped in from Dagenham. Rochford Council have also recently approved another 600+ property development just off Ashingdon Road near to King Edmund School. The already overstretched local schools are expected to accommodate more pupils likewise existing (overstretched) doctor and dental surgeries accept all the new residents. No numbers have been given by developers for the so-called affordable housing. Rochford will grind to a halt, just hasn't the infrastructure or road system to cope - hasn't even got a bank! Meanwhile the council leaders claim it's their duty to meet 'local housing' needs in accordance with meeting government guidelines. Idiocy, corruption or both?

 

[kaymac]

Every housing project starts off with promise of affordable housing ( whatever that is these days) to gain planning permission. Once the build has got going, the developers change and suddenly those numbers change dramatically with the usual bull**** excuses. It is a proven tactic they have been getting away with for years.

For sure. In this case, Bellway (the second-rate developers of Hall Road) then said they would of course be willing to build a school.....as long as ECC funded it.......

 

[Fairport]

On another issue, plans are for another hotel to be built adjacent to the Holiday Inn at the airport. It could be argued that this reduces the viability of a hotel incorporated within the main stand at Fossetts Farm. Together with the proposed cinema at Seaway, it is getting more concerning regarding Ron's plans.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Yep, the lovely folk in Hall Road were shipped in from Dagenham. Rochford Council have also recently approved another 600+ property development just off Ashingdon Road near to King Edmund School. The already overstretched local schools are expected to accommodate more pupils likewise existing (overstretched) doctor and dental surgeries accept all the new residents. No numbers have been given by developers for the so-called affordable housing. Rochford will grind to a halt, just hasn't the infrastructure or road system to cope - hasn't even got a bank! Meanwhile the council leaders claim it's their duty to meet 'local housing' needs in accordance with meeting government guidelines. Idiocy, corruption or both?

Slightly different thing but not so many years ago I had a relative who worked for BUPA selling medical cover to, among other big companies, also many trade unions. Those that signed up on behalf of their members got lovely free holiday (Maldives was normal) and free cover for themselves, those they represented of course paid for all those jollies yet also had to listen and read about what a great deal had been negotiated for them! George Orwall got so much right.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

On another issue, plans are for another hotel to be built adjacent to the Holiday Inn at the airport. It could be argued that this reduces the viability of a hotel incorporated within the main stand at Fossetts Farm. Together with the proposed cinema at Seaway, it is getting more concerning regarding Ron's plans.

Often the council will want 2,3,4 or more plans submitted in a small time frame so they can refuse a couple, state they have then got evidence of their due diligence and approve those they would have done anyway. Refusing permission with small changes then allowed is another "good publicity" tactic that councils and developers are in cahoots with.

 

[rigsby]

I was discussing the Queensway project with a fellow Shrimper just the other day. Would the town be better building a stadium with all the trimmings on the site and the council having FF for housing.

Rather than spending £500m on knocking down a ghetto only to build a modern ghetto, as the people wont change. Why not have a stadium that is close to both mainline railway stations and boost the town centre by linking the Victoria shopping centre to the stadium. Would be a better slot for hotel as well.

 

[Chrisb]

The other thing that seems to go unmentioned is where are all the people currently living in the tower blocks going to be housed while the new places are being built.

 

[GrumpyBlue]

I was discussing the Queensway project with a fellow Shrimper just the other day. Would the town be better building a stadium with all the trimmings on the site and the council having FF for housing.

Rather than spending £500m on knocking down a ghetto only to build a modern ghetto, as the people wont change. Why not have a stadium that is close to both mainline railway stations and boost the town centre by linking the Victoria shopping centre to the stadium. Would be a better slot for hotel as well.

Come along this sounds too sensible we can`t have that

 

[SHRIMPERPETER]

The other thing that seems to go unmentioned is where are all the people currently living in the tower blocks going to be housed while the new places are being built.

Been saying that all along!?

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

The other thing that seems to go unmentioned is where are all the people currently living in the tower blocks going to be housed while the new places are being built.

A large number of the houses/flats planned for Roots Hall site are earmarked for social housing; maybe the council has a positive interest in Ron's plans?