SNP - What next?

[RHB]

As much as he may try, he cannot disown his former mentor Gordon Brown and the economic policies of the last Labour government. This is off topic for this thread but as the excellent Alan Johnson argues in The Guardian today, it was this arrogant failure to acknowledge past mistakes that cost the Labour party dearly in England.

As you say, off topic, but Alan Johnson could yet be the next Labour leader.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

That's right, the English hoards will be marauding northwards to start a new life in the great socialist utopia. :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:

Sturgeon's sums didn't add up before the independence referendum (funny how the oil price tanked almost immediately after Salmond's boasts about North Sea oil!), now she wants "full fiscal autonomy", which means that when things go tits up we'll be bailing them out again. The problem with socialists is that they cannot accept that money doesn't grow on trees. Everything has to be paid for which means that yes, there will have to be some cuts. If that's the price we have to pay to avoid saddling the next generations with even more unaffordable debt, then so be it.

And there was me thinking, it was the Tories who'd discovered the magic money tree just before the election, with their unfunded spending promises.

Talking about cuts, just where are the promised 12 billion pounds worth of cuts to the social services going to fall exactly?

Talking about "unaffordable debt" you'll no doubt remember that all post world war two governments (whether Labour or Tory) were paying off war debt until well into Blair's second term of office.

 

[Benfleet A1]

As you say, off topic, but Alan Johnson could yet be the next Labour leader.

Ruled himself out today.

 

[RHB]

Ruled himself out today.

Michael Foot it is then

 

[Benfleet A1]

And there was me thinking, it was the Tories who'd discovered the magic money tree just before the election, with their unfunded spending promises.

Talking about cuts, just where are the promised 12 billion pounds worth of cuts to the social services going to fall exactly?

Talking about "unaffordable debt" you'll no doubt remember that all post world war two governments (whether Labour or Tory) were paying off war debt until well into Blair's second term of office.

As unfunded as the Labour promises I believe. Thought I'd mention that seeing as you glossed over it as usual. War debt was finally paid off in 2002.

 

[Benfleet A1]

Michael Foot it is then

Dead, but if a scruffy hard left nutcase floats your boat then good for you.

 

[dloman]

As you say, off topic, but Alan Johnson could yet be the next Labour leader.

That's actually a shame as he seems honest, well as honest as any politician can be!

Does leave Labour with a dilemma, as from someone looking from the outside I can't see too many credible future leaders. Perhaps the Labour guys could make some suggestions.

 

[Benfleet A1]

Michael Foot seems the best option so far.:smile:

 

[RHB]

Dead, but if a scruffy hard left nutcase floats your boat then good for you.

Really? I'll see who else I can dig up then. Ho Hum.