rigsby
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Er no or you'd have hardly any art of any kind left, bar Cliff Richard.
I thought he was on the Wrong'uns list.
Agree about drugs, not as if their hurting anyone else.
Er no or you'd have hardly any art of any kind left, bar Cliff Richard.
I think it would be quicker to name people in the music business who don't dabble.How about drug users? Beatles, Clapton, Hendrix, Shakespeare (mandrake, apparently)
"Agree about drugs, not as if their hurting anyone else."
Not victims of crime to fund drug use, then? Or gang killings? Oh, maybe I'm mistaken then.
Supported Southend .What did your husband do time for?
Tonight, Wed 6th March at 9pm Channel 4. Leaving Neverland. Lots more accounts of abuse by Michael Jackson.
It won't change much. MJ is no longer around to defend himself (though he was tried and found not guility). His fans won't have a word said against him and the rest of us always thought he was morally dubious anyhow.
So was O.J. Simpson, and then found guilty by a unanimous jury verdict in the civil law suit brought by the victims family's. Both O.J.(first trial) and Michael Jackson had dream teams defending them. The type of teams that can get almost any guilty person found not guilty when things like DNA is not applicable. In Michael Jackson's case they tied witnesses in knots under question, making the jury doubt them. They played on the unreasonable doubt aspect to get him found not guilty. So I don't think in these cases of defences paid Millions of dollars, we can safely say they are not guilty, but we can listen to people that say they were victims, hear their story, and choose to believe them or not.
The two men in this documentary stood up in court and defended Jackson. Now he's dead they suddenly accuse him of multiple sexual offences. Why now? Did they take millions in compensation?
However, I doubt there are many who already haven't made up their mind if MJ was paedophile or not. Uber fans will scream that he's innocent regardless of any evidence put in front of them.
One of them said that Michael treated them as his boyfriends. He admitted that he was star struck and fell in love with MJ. He said MJ kept telling him that the love they shared and the feelings, and the sexual things they did were normal. MJ then spent hours telling him what to say if questioned about their love or sharing a bed together. MJ said they could end up in prison if he didn't answer the questions right. He said that's why he defended MJ in court. He said he felt he was an unloved kid at the time and MJ gave him love and attention he needed. Now he's grown up and seeing it from an adults view, he knows MJ was a paedophile and was predatory, and took advantage of many kids like him.
Yes, I do believe his story. Is he trying to make money from his book about it, or from compensation from the Jackson estate? Yes I believe he is.
I will watch it and try to judge - however without hard evidence it's only ever going to be circumstantial and there was always that greed that followed MJ around from the hangers on. There's no doubt he was severely ****ed up by fame, whether or not he abused children.
I think the maid's account of what sort of things went on will help make up your mind. If you're still not convinced, fair enough. She wasn't abused, so is not claiming any sort of compensation. She was warned off years ago and threats were made if she said anything. Hers is more of a guilt trip that she let it go on, from what I've read as to why she is now telling how it was in Neverland.
When these allegations first surfaced many years ago I am pretty sure I heard an interview with George Clinton who said "I know Michael and Michael likes pussy".