Ched Evans

[RHB]

You have mentioned before on other threads your work/help at a rape centre (if that's the correct term) so its something that is very important to you.

Your more than happy to talk about a footballer because that's someone we can all hate. Your more than happy to police this thread in case someone strays off of your views on the case. Yet you refuse to ever mention the victims of muslim grooming gangs because people like you can't mention rape and muslim in the same sentence.

Its that sort of attitude which allowed the crime in the first place. Even worse was the cover up for years after because the subject was to awkward for councils and the police to deal with. We should be ashamed as a nation.

I can only recall mentioning my Rape Crisis connection once before and it was also because of Rotherham so I'll repeat what I will have said then - I am an atheist and I see all religions as equally ludicrous but it's up to individuals if they want to spend their spare time praying. Religion is no excuse for any form of sexism in my book and their is no cultural excuse for any form of abuse. Anyone that allows that to happen because are worried about causing offence to any particular communities should be stripped of any level of responsibility and replaced with someone who is not too weak to step in and protect those that need protecting.

Like all other religions some Muslims rape. There you go. In the same sentence. I just don't see why all discussions about sexual abuse have to go back to Rotherham. I don't see why all discussions on sexual abuse needs a Rotherham angle for context. Ched Evans is not a Muslim. If he was it would not effect my opinion of the situation.

Me objection to the phrase 'dirty little slut' is not the sort of attitude that allowed abuse in Rotherham to happen, it is the sort of attitude that objects to abuse happening anywhere.

Maybe a quick glance at the title of this thread may help you both on where to focus next? Just a thought.

 

[rigsby]

Maybe a quick glance at the title of this thread may help you both on where to focus next? Just a thought.

I was happy discussing the Ched Evans case until *** introduced all victims sexual assault. Insinuating that anyone who questioned the evidence or in fact even discussing it on a forum was a victim blamer and making women less likely to report rape.

On behalf of the shrimperzone men I was happy to point out that we don't in fact need 'educating' and certainly not from someone who believes they have the right to prowl each thread and silence views they don't agree with...... Immigration, Jeromy Corbyn, Brexit and now Ched Evans

 

[McNasty]

Let's take this to the Pub as it is now a moral debate and nothing to do with SUFC

 

[RHB]

I was happy discussing the Ched Evans case until *** introduced all victims sexual assault. Insinuating that anyone who questioned the evidence or in fact even discussing it on a forum was a victim blamer and making women less likely to report rape.

On behalf of the shrimperzone men I was happy to point out that we don't in fact need 'educating' and certainly not from someone who believes they have the right to prowl each thread and silence views they don't agree with...... Immigration, Jeromy Corbyn, Brexit and now Ched Evans

So now that's sorted it's back on topic now?

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

I was happy discussing the Ched Evans case until *** introduced all victims sexual assault. Insinuating that anyone who questioned the evidence or in fact even discussing it on a forum was a victim blamer and making women less likely to report rape.

On behalf of the shrimperzone men I was happy to point out that we don't in fact need 'educating' and certainly not from someone who believes they have the right to prowl each thread and silence views they don't agree with...... Immigration, Jeromy Corbyn, Brexit and now Ched Evans

Was that a secret ballot!

 

[londonblue]

Lols. Ok, Johnny Cochrane, I see what you're trying to say, you can't enter into a contract when you're drunk. That is obvious. But I'm not talking a scenario, where you'd be face to face with someone, who would easily ascertain Your drunk & incapable state. I'm talking about doing something, like booking a holiday online, Because you don't face or answer to anyone. Only that little box that states "Terms & Conditions". As soon as you've clicked that, you're Bang to rights. And furthermore, it's almost impossible to then prove your inebriated state afterwards. Therefore your point about not being able to enter a contract when drunk, isn't as accurate as you may think, because you most certainly can. Getting out of it, would be possible, but very difficult.

But hey, If you're so sure you know more than me, regarding the legal issues of entering into a verbal/written contract when drunk, then feel free to prove me wrong. Book a holiday online today, then try and cancel it tomorrow, citing the reason being your intoxication.

I don't feel the need to repeat myself, so please read my post again.

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

Signed for Chesterfield.

 

[Floval Flyer]

Signed for Chesterfield.

...think they will regret this, rather them than us

 

[southendkid]

Surprised they haven't waited until the retrial to announce this, I'm guessing there will be a clause saying he gets released for nothing if he's convicted again but Chesterfield are probably praying he's found not guilty, if he's isn't it'll be a PR disaster for them.

 

[Uncle Leo]

As a counter balance to my most recent post in the 'hacked off' thread...

Our local Tesco is marking the Euros by placing huge 24 large flags from the competing nations all the way along the central aisle, 12 on each side. Unprompted, and with me intervening only to correct the Germany/Belgium confusion, my children took a side each and got them all right :smile:

So their old man's obsession with football is doing them some good

 

[united we stand]

As a counter balance to my most recent post in the 'hacked off' thread...

Our local Tesco is marking the Euros by placing huge 24 large flags from the competing nations all the way along the central aisle, 12 on each side. Unprompted, and with me intervening only to correct the Germany/Belgium confusion, my children took a side each and got them all right :smile:



So their old man's obsession with football is doing them some good

struggling to see the connection to Ched Evans?

 

[rigsby]

struggling to see the connection to Ched Evans?

I believe you have to name at least one footballer involved in a sex scandal from each of the 24 countries.

 

[londonblue]

As a counter balance to my most recent post in the 'hacked off' thread...

Our local Tesco is marking the Euros by placing huge 24 large flags from the competing nations all the way along the central aisle, 12 on each side. Unprompted, and with me intervening only to correct the Germany/Belgium confusion, my children took a side each and got them all right :smile:

So their old man's obsession with football is doing them some good

In our family room we have a kids map of the world poster, and a flags of the world poster. Our boys can name a fair few too.

(Just not sure how that's relevant to Chesterfield?)

 

[shamash]

I was surprised that Ched Evans joined Chesterfield. I thought he would have been a perfect fit for us.

I am sure that agents are aware that our leader, Ron, has a strong sense of social responsibility and likes to offer employment to the unemployable. Ron is a firm believer in giving second, third and fourth chances, to young players, who through no fault of their own, have somehow lost their moral compasses. How is then that, as far as I am aware, we didn’t think about Ched Evans?

Cynics will say of course that Ron goes for the cheap option by signing players who are desperate because few other clubs would want to take a risk. I can’t imagine that this consideration would have even crossed Ron’s mind.

We are fortunate that our leader dares to go where others fear to tread.

 

[Gt Yarmouth Shrimper]

I was surprised that Ched Evans joined Chesterfield.

I was surprised you couldn't find the correct forum, let alone thread to put this in.

In all seriousness, what a load of tosh you've spouted.

 

[Jim Levenstein]

Not guilty

 

[davewebbsbrain]

Not guilty

Yep, seems there was enough evidence to prove he was not guilty of rape. Perhaps those that have banged on about how he raped that girl etc etc can show a bit of humility now. There were those of us that said all along there were massive flaws in the case against Evans, the girl being able to walk fine, nowhere near drunk, able to walk out to reception to get a pizza for instance.

Probably bang in a couple of goals against us tomorrow now

 

[MK Shrimper]

Seems the defence brought up her history of sexual encounters which is usually forbidden in a rape trial. No one has come out of this well (on both sides), but Evans has lost 2 1/2 years of his life inside for something he didn't do.

 

[Jim Levenstein]

Yep, seems there was enough evidence to prove he was not guilty of rape. Perhaps those that have banged on about how he raped that girl etc etc can show a bit of humility now. There were those of us that said all along there were massive flaws in the case against Evans, the girl being able to walk fine, nowhere near drunk, able to walk out to reception to get a pizza for instance.

Probably bang in a couple of goals against us tomorrow now

I know, all us 'victim bashers' hahaha

 

[Ayrshire Blue]

Life and career wasted because of a silly slag crying rape. Lock her up