Immigration from Romania and Bulgaria

[Mad Cyril]

But what about Marek Szmid?

I know he is from Nuneaton but still....

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

I wouldn't go anywhere without the funds to cope with the transition and getting settled.
I think that's reasonable and the same should be true for any non UK Citizens; no hand outs, no free NHS, no housing queue jumpers, no translation services, & if they commit crime then OUT!

 

[C'mon you Shrimpers]

I thought there was quite an interesting debate on BBC Essex involving some Bularian and Roumanian people who had settled even one now adult who came with her father from Bulgaria about 10 years ago. They weren't afraid to raise the issue most were avoiding which was don't tar us all with the same brush. The beggars and thieves that the UK seem worried about are the Roma. They said it not me.

 

[callan]

I thought there was quite an interesting debate on BBC Essex involving some Bularian and Roumanian people who had settled even one now adult who came with her father from Bulgaria about 10 years ago. They weren't afraid to raise the issue most were avoiding which was don't tar us all with the same brush. The beggars and thieves that the UK seem worried about are the Roma. They said it not me.

That's interesting considering how appalling the Roma have historically been treated...the Roma themselves are ''oportunistic'' bearing in mind that they have been denied basic human rights in some of their Countries of origin.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

I have never understood the logic of exporting low skilled jobs and importing low skilled employees, other than to set up a perpetual bloc of client voters, or even to actually destabilize the nation.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I have never understood the logic of exporting low skilled jobs and importing low skilled employees, other than to set up a perpetual bloc of client voters, or even to actually destabilize the nation.

How do you feel about the legalisation of illegal immigrants in the US? :unsure::winking:

 

[ozzie]

germany

How do you feel about the legalisation of illegal immigrants in the US? :unsure::winking:

i lived in germany now 23 years,but have seen no czech workers here&only 3 poles,who have now gone back home.i live only 1 hour from the czech border,so they could drive,work&return home the same day!i work on the buildings,brickie,our firm are looking for a worker,but wont take on an east europeon,they are not well liked!!i do think germans do put things in the way,as to make it harder for "auslanders"to get work in germany.germans DO put germans first,which i can understand

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

i lived in germany now 23 years,but have seen no czech workers here&only 3 poles,who have now gone back home.i live only 1 hour from the czech border,so they could drive,work&return home the same day!i work on the buildings,brickie,our firm are looking for a worker,but wont take on an east europeon,they are not well liked!!i do think germans do put things in the way,as to make it harder for "auslanders"to get work in germany.germans DO put germans first,which i can understand

Good points, same is true in large part of France although Italy seems to have a similar attitude to the UK with employing low skill non Brits whenever they can. however you don't see Italian Gov vehicles etc as anything other than their own builds.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

A big bit on news (BBC London) on 50 Romanians squatting at the site of Hendon FC; in shacks, no water etc. If that is allowed now (been there for over 6 mths apparently) should we not expect much more of the same? And they do random casual labour - which is un visa and so currently illegal?

 

[Sandbach Shrimper]

Opening the doors to two of the poorest and most crime-ridden countries in Europe, at a time when millions of our own people are unemployed and we are trying to bring net immigration down, is not a great idea. No one seems to know how many will come, I don't think it will be huge but I think it'll be significant and the problem is it'll probably be the illegal gypsies and petty criminals (92% of cash machine thefts are carried out by Romanian gangs, admittedly according to the Daily Mail) who are at the front of the queue.

 

[OldBlueLady]

Opening the doors to two of the poorest and most crime-ridden countries in Europe, at a time when millions of our own people are unemployed and we are trying to bring net immigration down, is not a great idea. No one seems to know how many will come, I don't think it will be huge but I think it'll be significant and the problem is it'll probably be the illegal gypsies and petty criminals (92% of cash machine thefts are carried out by Romanian gangs, admittedly according to the Daily Mail) who are at the front of the queue.

Undoubtedly as they'll probably be the ones most likely to have stolen the money to get whatever false documentation they need to try and get in lawfully.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

"the only thing we have to fear is fear itself"

FDR.

 

[steveo]

Well you don't need a crystal ball to see what way this thread will go :whistling:

And i wonder if the majority of posts will be against which will probably be a fair reflection of the opinions of the people of this Country - as on SZ we are all obviously a good example of a representation of UK citizens.

 

[steveo]

I wouldn't go anywhere without the funds to cope with the transition and getting settled.
I think that's reasonable and the same should be true for any non UK Citizens; no hand outs, no free NHS, no housing queue jumpers, no translation services, & if they commit crime then OUT!

Having just returned forma trip to Jersey i was thinking that would have been a nice place for a lot of eastern Europeans to go to. However, after chatting with a few locals it appears you cannot own property unless you have lived there for 20 years. Also, you can't work there for 3 months.

So unless people have got enough money to find accommodation and food for three months they can't stay and if they could and di find employment they would have to rent property for the next 20 years. Jersey are not part of the EU and have power of self determination, along with a good standard of living/ Perhaps we could quit the EU and become part of the Channel Islands.

 

[Benfleet A1]

"the only thing we have to fear is fear itself"

FDR.

"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing"

Socrates

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing"

Socrates

Thought that was Phil Brown.:winking:

 

[farawayshrimper]

Shouldn't let any of them in IMO, but what can we do about it?

We should have controlled migration, it helps with the age dependency ratio, can bring in both skilled labour such as in demand doctors and unskilled who do the jobs that our citizens on the dole are "too good" for. However we should be strict when they are in our country, limited benefits for a period of time and one crime and you're out system. Still need to deal with the native English idiots in this country too.

 

[mrsblue]

My neighbour has fascinating views on this countries downfall and the one thing which I agree with him on,This country is vastly over populated.

 

[Neil_F]

My neighbour has fascinating views on this countries downfall and the one thing which I agree with him on,This country is vastly over populated.

What's the plan? Genocide or booting out Johnny Foreigner?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

What's the plan? Genocide or booting out Johnny Foreigner?

Ha! A guy who I take for a private class, (he's in IT,specialising in security systems), reckons the only way Spain (and Europe)will overcome their problems is by starting another war.:stunned:
There's nowt as strange as folk.