crangoner
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Nah must be CubaYou can see Kent
Nah must be CubaYou can see Kent
Sounds more like Phil refusing to capitulate to excessive wage demands. How you interpret that as bad news is beyond me.Player manager rifts already ???? Hmmmm.
If they want an incentive they might give the likes of Mantom and Atkinson a ring...It is easy...if Phil is right about the player's value they will be not offered more elsewhere. The market will decide: it is hardly unrealistic for players to search for the best offer they can find. This has always been the case. Where the club might be at disadvantage this year is if a League Club makes similar offer to a player he might choose to turn us down to avoid dropping down into 'non league' football.
Could it be that some players want to be compensated extra for playing in the National League with us?
Another possibility is while some of these players may be prepared to sign for us they do not wish to rush into things as we might be their 'least preferred option', ie they will sign for us but will only do so if they do not receive a similar offer from a League club. Before committing to us they will want to test the market and need time to do this.
The perceived best interests of the players might be in conflict with the Club's. Phil obviously wants all this sorted as quickly as possible to help him with his forward planning whereas some or all of the players may have made up their minds they will only return to Southend if they are unable to secure better offers elsewhere.
That is what I would be doing if I was a player.
What PB is quoted as saying is entirely sensible, and, most on here would agree we should not be increasing the offers we have made.
Having said that there seems little incentive for any player to commit early to us.
Use your brain. I’m not saying what Phil is doing is wrong. If the players are demanded a wage higher then expected and him is saying no then there could be a problem .Sounds more like Phil refusing to capitulate to excessive wage demands. How you interpret that as bad news is beyond me.
There is no problem. Contract negotiations are exactly that, negotiations. The players, or their agents, will push for as much as they can, and Phil Brown has a budget to live within. If they meet in the middle, great, if not, off they go.Use your brain. I’m not saying what Phil is doing is wrong. If the players are demanded a wage higher then expected and him is saying no then there could be a problem .
There lies the riff, the players could be asking more than what they are worth, players who we might want to keep and they end up going. Not saying it’s a bad thing but we could be a few quality players down that won’t get replaced. The wage budget needs to be handled with care.There is no problem. Contract negotiations are exactly that, negotiations. The players, or their agents, will push for as much as they can, and Phil Brown has a budget to live within. If they meet in the middle, great, if not, off they go.
No footballer (aside from those desperate like Halford last year) would take those terms, it would mean if you got a season ending injury your finances would be ****ed. Even if you didn't get injured you could be playing fantastically and not be eligible for those bonuses if your teammates are letting you down. Footballers still have to pay the bills and it's a lot easier to do that if you know for sure how much is coming in each month instead of it being reliant on how well the team is playing.Give them lower wages with a high win/goal/clean sheet bonus, that’ll separate the real from the fake.
I’m sure they could have a clause for injuries etc my point is we want players who have a reason to get games won, for too long we’ve had Charletons who are only here to pick up their money so changes are needed.No footballer (aside from those desperate like Halford last year) would take those terms, it would mean if you got a season ending injury your finances would be ****ed. Even if you didn't get injured you could be playing fantastically and not be eligible for those bonuses if your teammates are letting you down. Footballers still have to pay the bills and it's a lot easier to do that if you know for sure how much is coming in each month instead of it being reliant on how well the team is playing.