Rugby World Cup 2019 Japan

[MK Shrimper]

That's your view of the Haka, it's not mine. My view is that the Haka is a compliment to New Zealand's opponents: it means they consider you a worthy opponent and are showing you respect. It's not used for intimidation at all.

Watch this Haka

They are not trying to intimidate, they're showing respect to a teacher who is retiring. I would argue that once you see a Haka for what it is it will inspire you, not intimidate you.

I think there are different types of Haka. When I was in NZ my group was greeted with one at a Maori cultural centre. No fighting or Rugby took place.

Apropos of nothing, when I was in one of the major cities I accidentally poked a full on face tattooed Maori in the eye. I thought my time had come.

 

[MK Shrimper]

England fined <£2.5K apparantly.

 

[The Big Dady]

England fined <£2.5K apparantly.

Perhaps England fans should start a crowd funding page to pay it off.

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[Yorkshire Blue]

That's your view of the Haka, it's not mine. My view is that the Haka is a compliment to New Zealand's opponents: it means they consider you a worthy opponent and are showing you respect. It's not used for intimidation at all.

Watch this Haka

They are not trying to intimidate, they're showing respect to a teacher who is retiring. I would argue that once you see a Haka for what it is it will inspire you, not intimidate you.

LOL, it's a war dance and the All Blacks are totally trying to intimidate, which is why it has become much more choreographed and theatrical than in the 80s.

 

[londonblue]

LOL, it's a war dance and the All Blacks are totally trying to intimidate, which is why it has become much more choreographed and theatrical than in the 80s.

LOL, it's not necessarily a war dance and the All Blacks (I call them New Zealand) aren't trying to intimidate.

Wikipedia

Although commonly associated with the traditional battle preparations of male warriors, haka have long been performed by both men and women, and several varieties of the dance fulfil social functions within Māori culture. Haka are performed to welcome distinguished guests, or to acknowledge great achievements, occasions or funerals.

As I said, if you change your mindset you'll see it differently.

 

[MK Shrimper]

LOL, it's a war dance and the All Blacks are totally trying to intimidate, which is why it has become much more choreographed and theatrical than in the 80s.

As I previously said, that's one type of Haka. I wonder how the Maori natives feel about Whitey apropriating their culture?

 

[londonblue]

As I previously said, that's one type of Haka. I wonder how the Maori natives feel about Whitey apropriating their culture?

That's a different issue, and has caused some issues (apparently). However, a lot of the New Zealand players are of Maori heritage and don't seem to have a problem with it.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

LOL, it's not necessarily a war dance and the All Blacks (I call them New Zealand) aren't trying to intimidate.

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As I said, if you change your mindset you'll see it differently.

The kids in that video aren't philosophers they are just copying what they see their heroes do.

For international rugby it's all part of creating the aura of the All Blacks, which is an attempt to intimidate opponents and referees. You're not just playing XV men but a rugby history and tradition that puts them on a pedestal.

 

[londonblue]

The kids in that video aren't philosophers they are just copying what they see their heroes do.

For international rugby it's all part of creating the aura of the All Blacks, which is an attempt to intimidate opponents and referees. You're not just playing XV men but a rugby history and tradition that puts them on a pedestal.

As I said, that's your opinion. It's not mine. If you change your mindset it won't intimidate you. There are numerous reasons for performing a Haka, only one of which fits your view. Moreover, you help create that aura you speak of by calling them the All Blacks. I call them New Zealand.

 

[Colorado Shrimper]

We beat New Zealand at their own game - that game being getting a bunch of Islanders to play for us.

 

[rigsby]

As I said, that's your opinion. It's not mine. If you change your mindset it won't intimidate you. There are numerous reasons for performing a Haka, only one of which fits your view. Moreover, you help create that aura you speak of by calling them the All Blacks. I call them New Zealand.

That was the one they used on Saturday.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

I love the Haka. They say they are challenging their opponents.
Meanwhile, the good news. I've been watching nearly all the games. I've watched every England and South Africa game. We are going to win. So get your England flags ready for your window.

 

[The Big Dady]

So The All Black's just scrape through against Wales to take 3rd place.

 

[The Big Dady]

No contest when a Lion meets a Springbok

 

[The Big Dady]

Here we go England v South Africa World Cup Final

Come on England​

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Not been a good first half from England. The injury to Sinckler was a real blow. Let’s see if they can make the running in the second half

 

[MK Shrimper]

England have been poor, a shadow of the team from last week. Big big 40 minutes coming up.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Not going to happen. Every scrum ends up in a SA penalty.

 

[RobM]

Trounced!!

 

[MK Shrimper]

We sure did play our final against NZ. Couldn't even get the basics right, stupid penalties. Embarassed by SA.