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Ian Benjamin

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Found this article this morning, might finally be getting some progress on FF.

Sainsbury’s has long been a friend of League Two football club Southend United. The supermarket is hoping to take over its stadium at Roots Hall for redevelopment as a store. What could go wrong for the Shrimpers, as the club is known?

Its chairman, Ron Martin, already owns the club’s training ground, Fossetts Farm, where it wants to develop a new stadium after it sells Roots Hall to Sainsbury’s. What has gone wrong is that Martin has spent a decade negotiating with the freeholders and occupiers of seven shops on Victoria Avenue, which borders its stadium, as the site is only interesting to Sainsbury’s if the shops are demolished.

During protracted negotiations with Martin, the value of the shopkeepers’ properties rose and fell. Compulsory purchase orders are in place if negotiations fail. Raj Buxani speaks on behalf of his sister, owner for the past 40 years of Kebabish Oriental and Super Pizza on Victoria Avenue.
Four years ago I said it would cost £900,000 to £1m to find another property, but I haven’t been offered anything,” he says. Feelings ran so high that one protestor, paraphrasing Welsh rock band the Manic Street Preachers, daubed the walls of Sale Appliances with the words: “If you tolerate this, then your building will be next.”

Kris Sale, proprietor of the electrical appliance store, has cleaned off the graffiti and says he may be close to a deal with Martin. “At the moment, everything is going through OK. There won’t be any compulsory purchase orders, although they were threatened.”
Sale has run the 2,500 sq ft premises, created by two freehold and two leased shops, for 16 years. He refuses to disclose Martin’s offer, but says it would be sufficient to rent or buy a new shop in Westcliff-on-Sea or Leigh-on-Sea, suburbs of Southend.

A spokesman for Martin is confident that shop owners will settle and says the club will put the contract out to tender for a 22,000-seater stadium later this summer.

A spokeswoman for Sainsbury’s also anticipates that planning permission will be granted soon: “We have a resolution to grant planning on an outline basis [from the council],” she says.
 
Popped up on my Google Alerts too. Not sure it's anything new. The Kris Sale stuff was in the echo a few months back IIRC and it's always been the Pizza shops that have been the issue and to my knowledge this is no closer to being resolved.
 
What's new is the club's PR approach.

Ron's missives are dismissed as lies and spin when they appear in the Echo, but when they appear in a specialist publication like Property Week they are given more credence and give the appearance that things are progressing.
 
I work with Kris Sale's wife and she has said that its all been agreed.
 
What I find incredible is this:

”Four years ago I said it would cost £900,000 to £1m to find another property..."

No wonder it has taken RM so long. You'd expect people to exaggerate the value, but this is just ridiculous.
 
What I find incredible is this:



No wonder it has taken RM so long. You'd expect people to exaggerate the value, but this is just ridiculous.

That was what stood out for me in that article. No wonder its taken so long. To find 2 properties in Southend that size with the approriate use would cost no more than £300k I reckon, unless they were planning on moving the business up to London.

I would of thought an offer of £0.5m would be enough to compensate.
 
if sufc fans stop buying their pizza they will soon have to move i use to get 1 a week from them but now i refuse coz SUFC means more than them yes the pizza's are well nice and cant speak the lingo
 
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one million to move a Pizza shop that sells pizza's for £3.... that is some rubbish. The property value is probably somewhere in the region of £250-£300k, but the goodwill value of the business i would think is fairly low, and has probably deminished considerably due to a nature of its trade in relation to club supporters.

I think £500k would be more than fair value and then some.
 
that is possibly the best piece of news on this site for some time

She was talking about it yesterday. Because its been agreed they are subsequently looking for a new 4 bedroom house and he is looking to move his shop to London Road near Thames Drive.
 
fairplay to them, I would hold out for even more, martin deserves this . do you remember when he got tilly to speak out regarding the pizza man

the man is a total tool, and deserves to be dicked over
 
fairplay to them, I would hold out for even more, martin deserves this . do you remember when he got tilly to speak out regarding the pizza man

the man is a total tool, and deserves to be dicked over

Jesus, you manage to turn good news into a RM slating.... bog off will ya
 
if sufc fans stop buying their pizza they will soon have to move i use to get 1 a week from them but now i refuse coz SUFC means more than them yes the pizza's are well nice and cant speak the lingo
Ahem, one for the mods perhaps?
 
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if sufc fans stop buying their pizza they will soon have to move i use to get 1 a week from them but now i refuse coz SUFC means more than them yes the pizza's are well nice and cant speak the lingo

That's the trouble with these foreigners, they can't speak the lingo. I had exactly this problem the last time I was in Sicily trying to order a Mighty Meaty.
 
fairplay to them, I would hold out for even more, martin deserves this . do you remember when he got tilly to speak out regarding the pizza man

the man is a total tool, and deserves to be dicked over

I wouldn't be surprised if you've moaned at Ron Martin for not making the stadium progress quicker, now you're contradicting yourself. Make your mind up.
 
Message to Simbo, u mean almost all the shops agreed to sell the building & move out? or its some of them. As for Captain Birdbrain, u sound like an bitter looking fellow, are you Paul Brush?, I claim my £5 :p
 
What I find incredible is this:

No wonder it has taken RM so long. You'd expect people to exaggerate the value, but this is just ridiculous.

If I was in their position I'd do exactly the same.

They clearly don't want to sell so they're going for the best price they can get, in that respect good luck to them.
 
my thoughts exactly message for dwb, why dont you do one as well waster, i see you firmly inside martin, i am suprised you dont dream about him, or waking up next to him, martin deserves this, the way he has treated all of us with utter contempt
 
Message to Simbo, u mean almost all the shops agreed to sell the building & move out? or its some of them. As for Captain Birdbrain, u sound like an bitter looking fellow, are you Paul Brush?, I claim my £5 :p

To be honest I'm not entirely sure. She was only speaking about her situation and how its all going though. Kris Sale is the spokesman for that row of shops though isnt he? So surely IF it is only him whose agreed at the moment it would send out a positive message (from the clubs point of view) to the other shop owners.

But that is just my interpretation......it could be that she meant ALL of them have agreed. I wont be able to get any more info this week as its half term and she is off with her son.
 
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