Season Ticket prices ....

[Javea Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ June 05 2004,22:31)]Our loyal 2000-2500 supporters will pay the rise but what about the supporters who we want to stop heading off to London?

Why not go to Orient for £30 kids or £170 adults.

I would have thought you could have worked that one out yourself ... they won't go to Orient because they don't SUPPORT Orient, they SUPPORT Southend. It's an invalid argument.

You have to take into account that most grounds in the Third Division are not all-seater and therefore can charge LESS that Southend United for season-tickets for those terraces areas. I don't have access to specifics but I'm sure that higher prices for seated areas are (in theory) linked with increase stewarding and maintenance costs.

Complaining that Southend United charge far too much in relation to the rest of the Third Division WITHOUT considering that most of the rest of the division have terraced areas cannot be a valid argument. There is simply no valid comparison.

Watching football these days in an expensive hobby, whether you are a fan of the Premiersh*te or a fan of struggling Southend United. That's reality. We can all moan and complain about it but supporters will, if personal budgets allow, be there to support their team. It's unfortunate that a small proportion of people will find it difficult to attend as much as they would like to and I have no answers to that specific problem.

Next please ...

WS

 

[Bigdel]

JS

Could you do an in depth price structure on our burgers and soft drink prices as I feel we are one of the dearest

 

[Javea Shrimper]

Unfortunately I wouldn't be able to do the research, being stuck out here in Spain!

WS

 

[overseas shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Javea Shrimper @ June 06 2004,09:51)]

Unfortunately I wouldn't be able to do the research, being stuck out here in Spain!

WS

No u mug u jumped ship cuz u is fed up of being mugged off but u still suck up to dc board from afar coz u is a mug innit.

Now to leave myself open to Wiggy's accusations of 'board loving' (like I give a sh*t)...

FM, point 1:

Instead of berating the club for being 'over priced' (because you now seem to be the self-appointed official price watchdog), why can you not see something clearly positive? SUFC's cheapest season ticket is actually cheaper than 3 clubs that have terracing. Okay... cheaper by a quid or two... but cheaper all the same. And don't forget that we are also a club situated in one of the most expensive parts of the country.

Orient just doesn't compare, as they are offering a deal to their supporters to compensate for the fact that they're paying to watch a match in a building site.

Point 2:

If the board have made a decision based on the fact that the supporters of SUFC are loyal enough to pay a certian amount more for their tickets, then this just may have been done to cope with the wage cap.

Higher ticket price = higher turn-over. Higher turn-over = more bucks for wages.

Of course, this is just my speculative supposition and is not OFFICIAL or FACT... but if this is the case, then the board are trying to act in a proactive manner.

Yes, it is a shame that football costs so much money to its supporters now... but that's the way things are I'm afraid.

 

[Technician]

Quote[/b] (overseas shrimper @ June 06 2004,09:15)]

Quote[/b] (Javea Shrimper @ June 06 2004,09:51)]

Unfortunately I wouldn't be able to do the research, being stuck out here in Spain!

WS

No u mug u jumped ship cuz u is fed up of being mugged off but u still suck up to dc board from afar coz u is a mug innit.

Now to leave myself open to Wiggy's accusations of 'board loving' (like I give a sh*t)...

FM, point 1:

Instead of berating the club for being 'over priced' (because you now seem to be the self-appointed official price watchdog), why can you not see something clearly positive? SUFC's cheapest season ticket is actually cheaper than 3 clubs that have terracing. Okay... cheaper by a quid or two... but cheaper all the same. And don't forget that we are also a club situated in one of the most expensive parts of the country.

Orient just doesn't compare, as they are offering a deal to their supporters to compensate for the fact that they're paying to watch a match in a building site.

Point 2:

If the board have made a decision based on the fact that the supporters of SUFC are loyal enough to pay a certian amount more for their tickets, then this just may have been done to cope with the wage cap.

Higher ticket price = higher turn-over. Higher turn-over = more bucks for wages.

Of course, this is just my speculative supposition and is not OFFICIAL or FACT... but if this is the case, then the board are trying to act in a proactive manner.

Yes, it is a shame that football costs so much money to its supporters now... but that's the way things are I'm afraid.

""Higher ticket price = higher turn-over. Higher turn-over = more bucks for wages"".

This theory is questionable, because it defies simple supply -vs- demand economics.

I agree that the SUFC board have probably done their homework to find where their pricing structure best fits with the rest of the division, but let's face it... Roots Hall holds some 12,000+ fans and we could average 70-75%** capacity with every home game if they reduced prices by [say] 20-25%.

As it is, we operated at around 36% capacity on average gates for last season [thanks to Tilly & Brushy, the last 5 games were nearer 50% capacity]. That means that the club has around 35-40% capacity going to waste!!! The atmosphere is usually great round the Hall, but it should be better week-in, week-out & this is the best way to increase revenue as more "bums on seats!" means more money spent in the bars, lounges & the club shop [where they will probably make up some of the 20-25% shortfall from the turnstyles!!!].

It will be very interesting to see what the average attendance percentages are in relation to the capacity next year & then comare them with when the new stadium comes along. My bet is that they will go down leaving even more capacity going to waste.

** I have not considered the North Stand in the calculations as this would rarely be full anyway.

 

[Javea Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Technician @ June 06 2004,11:03)]It will be very interesting to see what the average attendance percentages are in relation to the capacity next year & then compare them with when the new stadium comes along. My bet is that they will go down leaving even more capacity going to waste.

Blimey! Don't tell FM! He seems to be convinced that a new shiny stadium will be pulling in capacity attendances game after game after game!!

WS

 

[overseas shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Technician @ June 06 2004,12:03)]

Quote[/b] (overseas shrimper @ June 06 2004,09:15)]

Quote[/b] (Javea Shrimper @ June 06 2004,09:51)]

Unfortunately I wouldn't be able to do the research, being stuck out here in Spain!

WS

No u mug u jumped ship cuz u is fed up of being mugged off but u still suck up to dc board from afar coz u is a mug innit.

Now to leave myself open to Wiggy's accusations of 'board loving' (like I give a sh*t)...

FM, point 1:

Instead of berating the club for being 'over priced' (because you now seem to be the self-appointed official price watchdog), why can you not see something clearly positive? SUFC's cheapest season ticket is actually cheaper than 3 clubs that have terracing. Okay... cheaper by a quid or two... but cheaper all the same. And don't forget that we are also a club situated in one of the most expensive parts of the country.

Orient just doesn't compare, as they are offering a deal to their supporters to compensate for the fact that they're paying to watch a match in a building site.

Point 2:

If the board have made a decision based on the fact that the supporters of SUFC are loyal enough to pay a certian amount more for their tickets, then this just may have been done to cope with the wage cap.

Higher ticket price = higher turn-over. Higher turn-over = more bucks for wages.

Of course, this is just my speculative supposition and is not OFFICIAL or FACT... but if this is the case, then the board are trying to act in a proactive manner.

Yes, it is a shame that football costs so much money to its supporters now... but that's the way things are I'm afraid.

""Higher ticket price = higher turn-over. Higher turn-over = more bucks for wages"".

This theory is questionable...

Yes, it is questionable, which is why I worded my 'theory' in such a way as to make it clear it was a speculative one based on one of many possible facts. Which I think you understood.

My point was that, if the board thought we'd average a similar average crowd with these price increases, there would be a higher income.

If demand dropped due to the increases, that would - of course - be another matter.

I don't really know what the answers are to get around 70% capacity at Roots Hall... it's something we failed to do in our 'golden age'... let alone now.

The board don't have the answer to that question... I think.

 

[The 4th man]

Quote[/b] (Technician @ June 06 2004,11:03)]Yes, it is a shame that football costs so much money to its supporters now... but that's the way things are I'm afraid.

""Higher ticket price = higher turn-over. Higher turn-over = more bucks for wages"".

This theory is questionable, because it defies simple supply -vs- demand economics.

I agree that the SUFC board have probably done their homework to find where their pricing structure best fits with the rest of the division, but let's face it... Roots Hall holds some 12,000+ fans and we could average 70-75%** capacity with every home game if they reduced prices by [say] 20-25%.

As it is, we operated at around 36% capacity on average gates for last season [thanks to Tilly & Brushy, the last 5 games were nearer 50% capacity]. That means that the club has around 35-40% capacity going to waste!!! The atmosphere is usually great round the Hall, but it should be better week-in, week-out & this is the best way to increase revenue as more "bums on seats!" means more money spent in the bars, lounges & the club shop [where they will probably make up some of the 20-25% shortfall from the turnstyles!!!].

It will be very interesting to see what the average attendance percentages are in relation to the capacity next year & then comare them with when the new stadium comes along. My bet is that they will go down leaving even more capacity going to waste.

** I have not considered the North Stand in the calculations as this would rarely be full anyway.[/QUOTE]
Ah the old "fallen into the trap of stastistic's" to predict human beahviour.

The idea that people wouldnt spend more on berverages and snacks due to a minimal increase in admission price is an odd one (if it was the case the big stadiums like the millenium in cardiff wouldnt be able to sustain their 30 odd bars). Pubs themselfs and clubs are about the enviroment idea , to entice the custom to return .

Its not the economics , rather its sense of occasion, the very eccesence of it that sells it self to the public.

Neither quality or quanity , rather social peer manipulation or senses of pride or even identitey sold back to the customer.


The board need to raise the idea of the club. Obviously it would be insaine to ignore the economics however its a very small part of the initial imputus to forming a succesful "product"

 

[Technician]

Quote[/b] (overseas shrimper @ June 06 2004,11:37)]

Quote[/b] (Technician @ June 06 2004,12:03)]

Quote[/b] (overseas shrimper @ June 06 2004,09:15)]

Quote[/b] (Javea Shrimper @ June 06 2004,09:51)]

Unfortunately I wouldn't be able to do the research, being stuck out here in Spain!

WS

No u mug u jumped ship cuz u is fed up of being mugged off but u still suck up to dc board from afar coz u is a mug innit.

Now to leave myself open to Wiggy's accusations of 'board loving' (like I give a sh*t)...

FM, point 1:

Instead of berating the club for being 'over priced' (because you now seem to be the self-appointed official price watchdog), why can you not see something clearly positive? SUFC's cheapest season ticket is actually cheaper than 3 clubs that have terracing. Okay... cheaper by a quid or two... but cheaper all the same. And don't forget that we are also a club situated in one of the most expensive parts of the country.

Orient just doesn't compare, as they are offering a deal to their supporters to compensate for the fact that they're paying to watch a match in a building site.

Point 2:

If the board have made a decision based on the fact that the supporters of SUFC are loyal enough to pay a certian amount more for their tickets, then this just may have been done to cope with the wage cap.

Higher ticket price = higher turn-over. Higher turn-over = more bucks for wages.

Of course, this is just my speculative supposition and is not OFFICIAL or FACT... but if this is the case, then the board are trying to act in a proactive manner.

Yes, it is a shame that football costs so much money to its supporters now... but that's the way things are I'm afraid.

""Higher ticket price = higher turn-over. Higher turn-over = more bucks for wages"".

This theory is questionable...

Yes, it is questionable, which is why I worded my 'theory' in such a way as to make it clear it was a speculative one based on one of many possible facts. Which I think you understood.

My point was that, if the board thought we'd average a similar average crowd with these price increases, there would be a higher income.

If demand dropped due to the increases, that would - of course - be another matter.

I don't really know what the answers are to get around 70% capacity at Roots Hall... it's something we failed to do in our 'golden age'... let alone now.

The board don't have the answer to that question... I think.

Yes, I appreciate that there is always more than one side to the coin, however... the Club should also consider that with bigger average attendances, you would attract much more sponsorship revenue, which is where some of the real money can be made at clubs of our level.

I think that the SUFC board should cap their pricing policy over the next few seasons or consider reducing the new stadium's capacity to 10,000 with options to increase that capacity to 15,000 or 20,000 when the time is right. If they have no intention of filling the Hall week after week, then a 16,000 capacity stadium only makes the present situation look far worse!!!

 

[footymad13]

Quote[/b] (Javea Shrimper @ June 06 2004,08:46)]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ June 05 2004,22:31)]Our loyal 2000-2500 supporters will pay the rise but what about the supporters who we want to stop heading off to London?

Why not go to Orient for £30 kids or £170 adults.

I would have thought you could have worked that one out yourself ... they won't go to Orient because they don't SUPPORT Orient, they SUPPORT Southend. It's an invalid argument.

You have to take into account that most grounds in the Third Division are not all-seater and therefore can charge LESS that Southend United for season-tickets for those terraces areas. I don't have access to specifics but I'm sure that higher prices for seated areas are (in theory) linked with increase stewarding and maintenance costs.

Complaining that Southend United charge far too much in relation to the rest of the Third Division WITHOUT considering that most of the rest of the division have terraced areas cannot be a valid argument. There is simply no valid comparison.

Watching football these days in an expensive hobby, whether you are a fan of the Premiersh*te or a fan of struggling Southend United. That's reality. We can all moan and complain about it but supporters will, if personal budgets allow, be there to support their team. It's unfortunate that a small proportion of people will find it difficult to attend as much as they would like to and I have no answers to that specific problem.

Next please ...

WS

Did you not read what i said.

We have our LOYAL supporters who will not jump ship.

What about the Spurs, Arsenal, Man u supporters who cant afford to go to there respective clubs.

They look at Southends £305 for a seat and im sure are not impressed. And lets face it most of RH does not offer a totally clear view of the pitch with the pillars in the East and West and with the cramp wooden seats of the East.

They look at Orients £170 and teams like Charlton and why should they start watching us we arn't exactly appealing to them we finished 17th and are charging alot of money just to watch a basement side.

Why should the new supporters go to Southend Mike, why pay £305 for your local side when a team in the same league down the road is offering you a season ticket at nearly half that.

We moan about the London clubs, but ask yourself this, How is the club helping itself by setting ST prices at that level. How are we meant to attract new supporters. At a time when the club is planning for a new stadium, Surely it a time to try and get people into RH and involved in the club

Brentford, Orient they both are on the doorstep of much bigger clubs yet they set there prices accordingly they try to offer a affordable deal.

I don't see how we are meant to pick up any NEW or EXTRA fans by charging over £300 to see the football we play.

 

[neil]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ June 06 2004,12:00)]What about the Spurs, Arsenal, Man u supporters who cant afford to go.

They look at Southends £305 for a seat and most of RH does not offer a totally clear view of the pitch with the pillars in the East and West.

Why would supporters of other clubs buy a season ticket? They wouldn't be able to see their team then would they???

Attracting new supporters is an interesting point. True, there are many supporters of other sides living in Southend, many of whom are probably tempted to make the odd trip to Roots Hall.

I would have no problem with offering a discount in certain section of the ground to, say, West Ham season ticket holders. I imagine some people would though.

Where I think the club suffers is that it makes getting in such hard work for the casual fan that they can't be bothered to come again!

 

[footymad13]

Quote[/b] (neil @ June 06 2004,12:05)]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ June 06 2004,12:00)]What about the Spurs, Arsenal, Man u supporters who cant afford to go.

They look at Southends £305 for a seat and most of RH does not offer a totally clear view of the pitch with the pillars in the East and West.

Why would supporters of other clubs buy a season ticket? They wouldn't be able to see their team then would they???

Well alot of people i spoke to started off supporting a premiership side but couldn't afford to see them or get tickets so they came down to Southend and ....

The point is they can't get tickets or afford to see there team. Thats the whole point. They then turn to there local club.

Southend is down the road, offering live football, we should be targeting the wandering fans and not pricing them out.

 

[neil]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ June 06 2004,12:08)]Southend is down the road, offering live football, we should be targeting the wandering fans and not pricing them out.

But wandering fans don't buy season tickets.

If you are talking about general prices then what would you do? Lower the prices? Do you really think that lowering the prices will bring an extra 1500 people (approx) in to cover the loss in revenue?

 

[footymad13]

Quote[/b] (neil @ June 06 2004,12:11)]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ June 06 2004,12:08)]Southend is down the road, offering live football, we should be targeting the wandering fans and not pricing them out.

But wandering fans don't buy season tickets.

If you are talking about general prices then what would you do? Lower the prices? Do you really think that lowering the prices will bring an extra 1500 people (approx) in to cover the loss in revenue?

I disagree, It has worked with clubs like Brentford. They have set there under 16 prices at £30 for example. 14-16 is a brilliant area to target and it works for alot of clubs.

Im sorry but £305 is not saying to people come watch Southend. It seems like its simply targeting its 2000 loyal supporters and not trying to attract anymore.

 

[overseas shrimper]

Quote[/b] (neil @ June 06 2004,13:05)]I would have no problem with offering a discount in certain section of the ground to, say, West Ham season ticket holders. I imagine some people would though!

Is it just a trick played on me by my mind... or did we try such a scheme once?

 

[Kent Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ June 06 2004,12:00)]

Quote[/b] (Javea Shrimper @ June 06 2004,08:46)]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ June 05 2004,22:31)]Our loyal 2000-2500 supporters will pay the rise but what about the supporters who we want to stop heading off to London?

Why not go to Orient for £30 kids or £170 adults.

I would have thought you could have worked that one out yourself ... they won't go to Orient because they don't SUPPORT Orient, they SUPPORT Southend. It's an invalid argument.

You have to take into account that most grounds in the Third Division are not all-seater and therefore can charge LESS that Southend United for season-tickets for those terraces areas. I don't have access to specifics but I'm sure that higher prices for seated areas are (in theory) linked with increase stewarding and maintenance costs.

Complaining that Southend United charge far too much in relation to the rest of the Third Division WITHOUT considering that most of the rest of the division have terraced areas cannot be a valid argument. There is simply no valid comparison.

Watching football these days in an expensive hobby, whether you are a fan of the Premiersh*te or a fan of struggling Southend United. That's reality. We can all moan and complain about it but supporters will, if personal budgets allow, be there to support their team. It's unfortunate that a small proportion of people will find it difficult to attend as much as they would like to and I have no answers to that specific problem.

Next please ...

WS

Did you not read what i said.

We have our LOYAL supporters who will not jump ship.

What about the Spurs, Arsenal, Man u supporters who cant afford to go to there respective clubs.

They look at Southends £305 for a seat and im sure are not impressed. And lets face it most of RH does not offer a totally clear view of the pitch with the pillars in the East and West and with the cramp wooden seats of the East.

They look at Orients £170 and teams like Charlton and why should they start watching us we arn't exactly appealing to them we finished 17th and are charging alot of money just to watch a basement side.

Why should the new supporters go to Southend Mike, why pay £305 for your local side when a team in the same league down the road is offering you a season ticket at nearly half that.

We moan about the London clubs, but ask yourself this, How is the club helping itself by setting ST prices at that level. How are we meant to attract new supporters. At a time when the club is planning for a new stadium, Surely it a time to try and get people into RH and involved in the club

Brentford, Orient they both are on the doorstep of much bigger clubs yet they set there prices accordingly they try to offer a affordable deal.

I don't see how we are meant to pick up any NEW or EXTRA fans by charging over £300 to see the football we play.

I cant stand reading this anymore......

FM if our club is so poorly run, Over priced and has such a cr*p ground in Roots Hall then f**k OFF.

IMHO £305 divided by 23 = £13.26 per game, this is not Over priced for a Third Division club who have a tidy all seater stadium with reletiviley comfortable faciliites. However the point you make is that it will turn away an Arsenal, Spurs or Man Utd Fan from buying a season ticket, Why? When they are the people who are used to paying a hell of alot more so probably see the lesser expense and even better VFM.

Yes we can all moan about the Toilets or the leg room, However we all have choices so if we dont want to we dont have to go.

Im sorry but i just cant stand anymore of your moaning, which is a shame becuase i actually enjoy some of your posts but not on this occassion

 

[Kent Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ June 06 2004,12:14)]

Quote[/b] (neil @ June 06 2004,12:11)]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ June 06 2004,12:08)]Southend is down the road, offering live football, we should be targeting the wandering fans and not pricing them out.

But wandering fans don't buy season tickets.

If you are talking about general prices then what would you do? Lower the prices? Do you really think that lowering the prices will bring an extra 1500 people (approx) in to cover the loss in revenue?

I disagree, It has worked with clubs like Brentford. They have set there under 16 prices at £30 for example. 14-16 is a brilliant area to target and it works for alot of clubs.

Im sorry but £305 is not saying to people come watch Southend. It seems like its simply targeting its 2000 loyal supporters and not trying to attract anymore.

so how much are our under 16 prices? I thought it was adults paying £305?

 

[neil]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ June 06 2004,12:14)]Im sorry but £305 is not saying to people come watch Southend. It seems like its simply targeting its 2000 loyal supporters and not trying to attract anymore.

Season tickets are only bought by people who know they will see every home game (or nearly every home game).

Fickle football fans do not sit at home and suddenly say, "hmmm, I think I'll buy a season ticket for a football club today. Now which is the cheapest?"

If people want to see a football match then, more often than not, they will go. Of course, offering financial incentives can help, but probably not that much.

Targetting younger age groups is a good idea, but I think that it is better done on a game by game basis. In my experience anyway, I couldn't have afforded a season ticket at that age because I simply didn't have the cash. I could afford to go to games individually though as I earnt money.

As I said earlier though, the underlying problems that the club suffers from in attracting new fans have been cr*p football and terrible customer service.

 

[footymad13]

Quote[/b] (Kent Shrimper @ June 06 2004,12:17)]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ June 06 2004,12:00)]

Quote[/b] (Javea Shrimper @ June 06 2004,08:46)]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ June 05 2004,22:31)]Our loyal 2000-2500 supporters will pay the rise but what about the supporters who we want to stop heading off to London?

Why not go to Orient for £30 kids or £170 adults.

I would have thought you could have worked that one out yourself ... they won't go to Orient because they don't SUPPORT Orient, they SUPPORT Southend. It's an invalid argument.

You have to take into account that most grounds in the Third Division are not all-seater and therefore can charge LESS that Southend United for season-tickets for those terraces areas. I don't have access to specifics but I'm sure that higher prices for seated areas are (in theory) linked with increase stewarding and maintenance costs.

Complaining that Southend United charge far too much in relation to the rest of the Third Division WITHOUT considering that most of the rest of the division have terraced areas cannot be a valid argument. There is simply no valid comparison.

Watching football these days in an expensive hobby, whether you are a fan of the Premiersh*te or a fan of struggling Southend United. That's reality. We can all moan and complain about it but supporters will, if personal budgets allow, be there to support their team. It's unfortunate that a small proportion of people will find it difficult to attend as much as they would like to and I have no answers to that specific problem.

Next please ...

WS

Did you not read what i said.

We have our LOYAL supporters who will not jump ship.

What about the Spurs, Arsenal, Man u supporters who cant afford to go to there respective clubs.

They look at Southends £305 for a seat and im sure are not impressed. And lets face it most of RH does not offer a totally clear view of the pitch with the pillars in the East and West and with the cramp wooden seats of the East.

They look at Orients £170 and teams like Charlton and why should they start watching us we arn't exactly appealing to them we finished 17th and are charging alot of money just to watch a basement side.

Why should the new supporters go to Southend Mike, why pay £305 for your local side when a team in the same league down the road is offering you a season ticket at nearly half that.

We moan about the London clubs, but ask yourself this, How is the club helping itself by setting ST prices at that level. How are we meant to attract new supporters. At a time when the club is planning for a new stadium, Surely it a time to try and get people into RH and involved in the club

Brentford, Orient they both are on the doorstep of much bigger clubs yet they set there prices accordingly they try to offer a affordable deal.

I don't see how we are meant to pick up any NEW or EXTRA fans by charging over £300 to see the football we play.

I cant stand reading this anymore......

FM if our club is so poorly run, Over priced and has such a cr*p ground in Roots Hall then f**k OFF.

IMHO £305 divided by 23 = £13.26 per game, this is not Over priced for a Third Division club who have a tidy all seater stadium with reletiviley comfortable faciliites. However the point you make is that it will turn away an Arsenal, Spurs or Man Utd Fan from buying a season ticket, Why? When they are the people who are used to paying a hell of alot more so probably see the lesser expense and even better VFM.

Yes we can all moan about the Toilets or the leg room, However we all have choices so if we dont want to we dont have to go.

Im sorry but i just cant stand anymore of your moaning, which is a shame becuase i actually enjoy some of your posts but not on this occassion  

For f**ks sake man will you f**king listen, and get off your high horse.

THEY CAN NOT GET TICKETS, IF THEY WERE STH AT A PREMIERSHIP CLUB OF COURSE WE WONT GET THEM AT RH BUT THESE CLUBS GET SELL OUT CROWDS AND ALOT OF PEOPLE WILL NOT GO THE MATCHES FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.

1) They simply cant afford £800
2) they can not get there
3) they can NOT get tickets

Do you understand those 3 points.

 

[overseas shrimper]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ June 06 2004,13:14)]... its simply targeting its 2000 loyal supporters and not trying to attract anymore.

And it seems that you are confusing two very different issues.

SUFC will not attract new supporters through season tickets. Not brand new supporters. nobody is going to buy a season ticket when they've never... or seldomly... visited Roots Hall.

To this end, yes, I believe season tickets are aimed at the existing fans.

Nothing wrong in that.

Other schemes and incentives have to be employed... and are employed to try and attract further support.