Question Stadium update please!

[Tommy2holes]

So does this mean that final approval should be given in December ie the green light or is liable to take longer for some reason.

If we can get the green light then funds should be more readily available to strengthen in January and dig us out of the mire.

 

[stewart]

So much red tape, why cant a special meeting be called to get it passed and the project finally underway ,is that to much to ask or will the councillors have to miss their daily sauna and massage.

 

[londonblue]

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Update on official site this evening.

Not sure exactly what it means. But thought it could be significant enough to be on the main forum.

It means not a lot has actually happened. It also means timelines have been pushed back again. Oh, and we still haven't submitted new plans.

 

[londonblue]

"Citizen Housing LLP specialises in partnering with both the public sector and landowners to deliver housing-led regeneration schemes. "

That's the aim for sure but to suggest they are specialists, having only been incorporated less than 2 years and yet to file any accounts, seems to be over-egging it to me. I wish them well in their aims.

Funny, I thought exactly the same. How can you build up a specialism that quickly.

 

[londonblue]

Havent we been making 'excellent progress' for years? I'd love to know what a lack of progress is.

We're closer to going out of business than building a new stadium.

Yep, around 20 of them!

 

[Willis]

Oxley looks like he’s got a bionic arm in the main pic. Shame he can’t programme it to catch crosses.

 

[londonblue]

Cllr Ian Gilbert, leader of the council, says: “I am very pleased that such good progress has been made on this landmark agreement since April and it is being recommended that detailed negotiations are completed subject to final due diligence, which we expect to be completed before full Council at the start of December.

Their final due diligence is expected to be before the council for their meeting at the beginning of December. Given that the article also says this:

An agreement and proposed transactions between Southend-on-Sea Borough Council, Citizen Housing LLP and Southend United Football Club that will enable the project to go ahead are being recommended for approval - subject to independent financial review, a review by the council’s external auditors, further legal advice, and councillors agreeing to grant access over land at Jones Memorial Ground (for which the council is trustee) to provide access for supporters on match days.

I've got to say that I'd be very surprised (and not a little impressed) if they can get all that done in the next 2 weeks. Given that up until now everything has moved at the pace of a sloth they're really going to have to get a wiggle on to have this all done ready for the meeting. It seems to me that there's simply no contingency in that timeline. All it needs is someone to raise one issue with one clause in one agreement and it's likely even that deadline will be missed.

 

[Somerset Ex-TTB]

Oxley looks like he’s got a bionic arm in the main pic. Shame he can’t programme it to catch crosses.

I reckon we will be looking back at that picture and looking at Oxley the same way we currently look at Sammy in 20 years time. Still playing at a Roots Hall, in the NL south, hoping to draw the big boys of the EFL in the first round of the FA cup. Still under an embargo and being run abysmally by Ron’s son.

 

[Cricko]

Citizen housing is the money behind the development..with Rm's son as one of the directors. He seems to be be doing a RM and opening companies all over the shop to.

I think @Napster looked into it all awhile back.

 

[Tommy2holes]

It means not a lot has actually happened. It also means timelines have been pushed back again. Oh, and we still haven't submitted new plans.

That was my pessimistic view but just wanted to clarify.

The only major plus is that the council are equally reliant on the approval to meet housing quotas and make money.

 

[Mad Cyril]

"Citizen Housing LLP specialises in partnering with both the public sector and landowners to deliver housing-led regeneration schemes. "

Citizen Housing sounds rather egalitarian.

I am hoping Fossetts farm will become a socialist microcosm with brutalist DDR style architecture.

 

[graingerroad54]

Citizen Housing sounds rather egalitarian.

I am hoping Fossetts farm will become a socialist microcosm with brutalist DDR style architecture.

Well said Cyril! Lets see if we can get a hammer & sickle incorporated into our badge!

 

[Richard Hearn]

That statement reads like something out of the office of Kim Jong-un.

I wonder if there was a group of army officers in over-sized hats wielding note pads and pencils hovering around while it was being dictated.

 

[Jai]

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Update on official site this evening.

Not sure exactly what it means. But thought it could be significant enough to be on the main forum.

Don't think there's much to this as londonblue says. There's still no amended planning application and without that, nothing is going to happen. Next week's meeting is important but we're still a long, long way from a spade in the ground. As there are new images in the story I am guessing that work is being done behind the scenes on new plans, but as mentioned, nothing has appeared.

Likely this is bluster to try and distract the fans from the embargo position.

 

[Medway Blue]

Given that up until now everything has moved at the pace of a sloth....All it needs is someone to raise one issue with one clause in one agreement and it's likely even that deadline will be missed.

You'd hope though that this is why everything has moved at the pace of a sloth.....so that there is nothing in there that would become an issue. RM has been meeting the council ever 2-4 weeks for the last 7 months so they have been fully involved in the process. I too would be impressed if it all gets sorted and passed within 2 weeks, but that seems to be the hard aim. We'll see.

 

[Supershrimper]

Citizen Housing sounds rather egalitarian.

I am hoping Fossetts farm will become a socialist microcosm with brutalist DDR style architecture.

Similar to the film High-Rise. I'm hoping thats how the stadium will be

 

[londonblue]

You'd hope though that this is why everything has moved at the pace of a sloth.....so that there is nothing in there that would become an issue. RM has been meeting the council ever 2-4 weeks for the last 7 months so they have been fully involved in the process. I too would be impressed if it all gets sorted and passed within 2 weeks, but that seems to be the hard aim. We'll see.

Indeed, but as the article says, the deal hasn't been seen by the external auditors or the lawyers who will give "further legal advice". If they don't raise a question or two I'd be very surprised.

 

[Rob1920]

Speaking as someone who has no understanding of any of anything relating to big building projects, when are we realistically likely to reach a point when someone somewhere with the power to do so actually says yes, you can start building? It seems that every time we get 'good news' its followed by months and years of red tape that has to be dealt with first, then more good news, then more red tape etc etc etc etc. I mean how does anyone ever get a stadium built, let alone when its attached to either housing or retail or whatever? How can the likes of Brentford and Wimbledon manage to get stadiums designed, approved and built in tight spaces inside the M25 in a fraction of the time we seem able to?

 

[Smiffy]

A 3 sided stadium in the middle of a massive new housing development basically.

http://publicedrms.southend.gov.uk/...j.pdf?DocNo=10430139&PageNo=1&content=obj.pdf

 

[Medway Blue]

Multi-billionaire magnates could (finally!) pave the way for Blues new stadium

A FAMILY of multi-billionaire property magnates are linked to a huge new housing development in Southend - finally paving the way for Blues’ new…

www.echo-news.co.uk

Echo article with a little bit more info regarding funding, and mentioning the Dellal family.