The Universe

[MK Shrimper]

True , but it/is a very interesting debate non the less.

Indeed. Pass the wacky baccie granddad

 

[davewebbsbrain]

I think we could debate until the cosmic concrete cows come home. Far sharper minds than us don't have a scooby so what chance do us plebs have?

So before the big bang and the universe happened, what was here? Something must have been here to cause the big bang.

How about aliens? is it fair to say in a universe as big and vast as it is, there must be other forms of life too.

 

[Cricko]

So before the big bang and the universe happened, what was here? Something must have been here to cause the big bang.

How about aliens? is it fair to say in a universe as big and vast as it is, there must be other forms of life too.

Alien life forms I think is a given..with 2 billion galaxies that contain 2 billion stars each...we are a bit hard to spot and even if we were for instance on some others life forms radar they may so intelligent that it would be like us trying to communicate with ants...would we bother?

 

[MK Shrimper]

So before the big bang and the universe happened, what was here? Something must have been here to cause the big bang.

How about aliens? is it fair to say in a universe as big and vast as it is, there must be other forms of life too.

First point I think we've done to death - no one knows and maybe never will.
Second point: Absolutely. In a infinite universe it's improbable that there isn't life out there. However due to the immense distances between us and the nearest life bearing star are staggering and I doubt that contact will ever be made despite whatever Science Fiction says. Who knows.

 

[McNasty]

You lot have far too much time on your hands. The only real debate is Bart or Flavs.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

Alien life forms I think is a given..with 2 billion galaxies that contain 2 billion stars each...we are a bit hard to spot and even if we were for instance on some others life forms radar they may so intelligent that it would be like us trying to communicate with ants...would we bother?

Roswell, Rendlesham, Area 51......the massive advances in technology since the late 50's. Are aliens already here?

 

[Crabby Shrimper]

But even empty space is something waiting to be filled so it is not nothing...which is kind of the question I have been asking in this thread.

I think the big problem is the limitation of the human mind. There are several things that are almost impossible to comprehend. Infinity, absolute nothing, and dimensions beyond those we generally use are three that I'd say make this such a fascinating, and yet mind numbing topic

 

[Cricko]

Roswell, Rendlesham, Area 51......the massive advances in technology since the late 50's. Are aliens already here?

There is no smoke without fire and the tecno advance since Roswell is outstanding for us....but do I think they are here...Nope, but who knows if they have paid us a visit or not....

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

Well yes but thats a few layers up that causality ;) propably tied in with Bell's therom and string theory :D

Is Osy referencing the Wire here?

I think the big problem is the limitation of the human mind. There are several things that are almost impossible to comprehend. Infinity, absolute nothing, and dimensions beyond those we generally use are three that I'd say make this such a fascinating, and yet mind numbing topic

Are you saying you can't think of nothing?

 

[Cricko]

There was an interesting story once , I forget which book it was from,maybe God is an alien or something..that thinks a few of us were left by a higher species here after the last ice age to see how we developed as they wanted to know how they evolved.

 

[Crabby Shrimper]

Are you saying you can't think of nothing?

Well, as that's a double negative, yes :smile:

 

[MK Shrimper]

There was an interesting story once , I forget which book it was from,maybe God is an alien or something..that thinks a few of us were left by a higher species here after the last ice age to see how we developed as they wanted to know how they evolved.

Erich Von Daniken.

 

[osymandus]

Is Osy referencing the Wire here?



Are you saying you can't think of nothing?

Lol , ive never seen it so no :D . You give it a try just rest your mind and allow "nothing" to be everything your thinking of.

 

[Crabby Shrimper]

Erich Von Daniken.

or.....

[video=youtube;NA9wp27ltGg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA9wp27ltGg[/video]

Warning, clicking on the link may cause offence, nausea, and a loss of the will to live.

 

[Mr Plow]

Does anyone else when reading a quote from Stephen Hawking read it in their head with the computerised voice?

 

[Cricko]

I Kind of guessed this thread would be ruined.

 

[Jedi Shrimper]

I think we could debate until the cosmic concrete cows come home. Far sharper minds than us don't have a scooby so what chance do us plebs have?

Speak for yourself mate. :winking:

How about aliens? is it fair to say in a universe as big and vast as it is, there must be other forms of life too.

Indeed there must, however in the existance of the universe who is to say they've not already died? or left? or yet to exist? Although other life forms elsewhere in the universe are highly probable, it's also likely that their star system is at a different stage to ours either in dying or being created so we could be the only planet right now with life forms, or they could be earlier in their evolution or later and of course other life could be beyond or imagination...

I think the big problem is the limitation of the human mind. There are several things that are almost impossible to comprehend. Infinity, absolute nothing, and dimensions beyond those we generally use are three that I'd say make this such a fascinating, and yet mind numbing topic

spot on.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

What by lunatic religious types?

Accepting the Big Bang theory is totally compatible with being a 'lunatic religious type' (particularly among Islamists who love big bangs and lunacy). We have been discussing what caused the Big Bang, when we could be talking about who caused it.

 

[osymandus]

More confirmation on Einstein's Theory of relativity
http://www.universetoday.com/85816/...y/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

 

[Jedi Shrimper]

This thread is rather redundant now, as the Rapture is scheduled for tomorrow apparently.