Ukip

[rigsby]

Likewise, when a black couple moved in opposite my mother's, in whiter-than-white Eastwood back in the 70's (they were both doctors for christsake).

A) So what if they weren't doctors are you saying.....

B) You have no sense of humour

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

A) So what if they weren't doctors are you saying.....

B) You have no sense of humour

a)Wouldn't have mattered what they did for me but doctors are professional people, after all.

B)Maybe, but I think you're pretty funny.:raspberry:

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

UKIP to come second in one hundred seats?

The silver vote.:smile:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/07/ukip-100-second-places-may-election-nigel-farage

 

[OldBlueLady]

Nice to see that everyone has overlooked the fact that Canvey Island is in Castle Point and that is a major target for UKIP. And can I just point out that the only people mentioning colour here are the more left leaning of this site and not UKIP, Farage, me or him.

Just saying.

Canvey is represented by independent local councillors, don't think much of Canvey is Tory. Rebecca Harris's support is more in Benfleet and Hadleigh.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Canvey is represented by independent local councillors, don't think much of Canvey is Tory. Rebecca Harris's support is more in Benfleet and Hadleigh.

I was coincidently looking at this earlier today to see whether it was worth going to Canvey to canvass. Does anyone have any recent polls for Castle Point? I could only find election results and it seems in 2010 there was a BNP candidate for Castle Point but no UKIP candidate. That struck me as odd that they would move from no candidate in one election to using it as their campaign launch in the next. I know there were councillor gains for UKIP but as you say a lot of the Councillors on Canvey are independents.
Does seem that in CP it is just one right wing party taking votes from another right wing party which is the classic scenario muted when UKIP were first gaining support.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

UKIP to come second in one hundred seats?

The silver vote.:smile:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/07/ukip-100-second-places-may-election-nigel-farage

I'd be interested in finding out where the predicted 6 UKIP seats come from. Thanet I assume would be one but it's a bit late for any more defections so I don't know where the other 3 seats would be.

Also the Mark Reckless comment below doesn't make sense unless he is thinking ahead to 2020 and combining 2nd placed UKIP and 3rd placed Tory voting numbers unless he has forgotten about the first past the post system:

“I do not believe the Tories will win enough seats on May 7 to be able to deliver David Cameron’s plan for an in/out referendum on Europe. It will only be when enough of the third-placed Tories join Ukip in the north that there will be a majority in the House of Commons that we need to change Britain.”

 

[OldBlueLady]

I was coincidently looking at this earlier today to see whether it was worth going to Canvey to canvass. Does anyone have any recent polls for Castle Point? I could only find election results and it seems in 2010 there was a BNP candidate for Castle Point but no UKIP candidate. That struck me as odd that they would move from no candidate in one election to using it as their campaign launch in the next. I know there were councillor gains for UKIP but as you say a lot of the Councillors on Canvey are independents.
Does seem that in CP it is just one right wing party taking votes from another right wing party which is the classic scenario muted when UKIP were first gaining support.

This shows the breakdown from the last local Council elections http://www.echo-news.co.uk/archive/...tle_Point__Council_election_results__June_10/

 

[callan]

I'd be interested in finding out where the predicted 6 UKIP seats come from. Thanet I assume would be one but it's a bit late for any more defections so I don't know where the other 3 seats would be.

Also the Mark Reckless comment below doesn't make sense unless he is thinking ahead to 2020 and combining 2nd placed UKIP and 3rd placed Tory voting numbers unless he has forgotten about the first past the post system:

“I do not believe the Tories will win enough seats on May 7 to be able to deliver David Cameron’s plan for an in/out referendum on Europe. It will only be when enough of the third-placed Tories join Ukip in the north that there will be a majority in the House of Commons that we need to change Britain.”

It could be that he's basing it on the Heywood and Middleton by election?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

It could be that he's basing it on the Heywood and Middleton by election?

That,of course, was yet another silver second place for UKIP

 

[callan]

That,of course, was yet another silver second place for UKIP

It was.
Close run though as I'm sure you would agree, and if the tory vote had switched by 700 od more then UKIP would have won.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

It could be that he's basing it on the Heywood and Middleton by election?

So if the third places Tory vote switches to second place UKIP - think you are right, just a strangely constructed sentence.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

This shows the breakdown from the last local Council elections http://www.echo-news.co.uk/archive/...tle_Point__Council_election_results__June_10/

Thanks. Backs up my thoughts that a trip to my Mum's and spending a lot of it wandering Canvey is probably not the best use of my time. Lucky old Croydon will get to spend more time with me - Tessa Jowell was out with us this morning!

 

[callan]

So if the third places Tory vote switches to second place UKIP - think you are right, just a strangely constructed sentence.

All if's and buts I guess, but my take is that with whatever labour support switches in the north which on paper is a harder nut to crack than the tory vote switching to UKIP then we could see some interesting and close run seats.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

All if's and buts I guess, but my take is that with whatever labour support switches in the north which on paper is a harder nut to crack than the tory switching to UKIP then we could see some interesting and close run seats.

Interesting times!

 

[callan]

Interesting times!

Where I don't see UKIP making head way is in the city's....that will be a real struggle.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Where I don't see UKIP making head way is in the city's....that will be a real struggle.

I think a prominent party official was widely quoted on the reason for that.....!

 

[Benfleet A1]

This shows the breakdown from the last local Council elections http://www.echo-news.co.uk/archive/...tle_Point__Council_election_results__June_10/

You do realise the link is for the 2004 results don't you? I would have thought the most recent results would be more relevant. And if any of you knew the Labour candidate and his questionable past like I do then you wouldn't even consider voting, let alone canvessing for him.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I see Farage has made yet another "helpful" contribution to the immigration "debate".:stunned:


http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31846453

 

[maninasuitcase]

Neil Hamilton was on 5 Live this evening to 'explain' Farage's comments. I haven't clue what he meant because he kept contradicting what Farage had said, and what he had said himself earlier in the interview.

He rather casually dismissed the number of racial discrimination cases taken against employers, over 3,000 in the last 12 month period where figures were available, instead suggesting employers and employees could work out their difference between themselves. Is this man living in the real world?

 

[OldBlueLady]

You do realise the link is for the 2004 results don't you? I would have thought the most recent results would be more relevant. And if any of you knew the Labour candidate and his questionable past like I do then you wouldn't even consider voting, let alone canvessing for him.

Found it hard to find anything, to be honest, hadn't noticed it was that old though admittedly! :blush: Still, doubt it would have been too much different, Castle Point has been pretty predictable in its elections.