Barry.C
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Is Rons best or easiest move to announce the appointment of CEO, acknowledge he tried to take on too much, Action done, tick ??
We could do both, but we would get shot down in flames for it, then again you can’t win either way.I think the point being made is do both
I understand completely that but again nobody is saying to do this instead of a protest. Surely we can and should do both so we can keep the pressure up from all angles to get the changes we need as a club.I personally think if you decide to have a protest off the back of not getting anywhere when you have had many meetings, you should stick to that protest and talk after when you have made your point via strong numbers in a protest, giving the club a chance to reflect and then you open dialogue again. In essence this is one of timing not the fact the engagement is a no go because engagement is important.
Missed opportunity? It’s 1 meeting that could have been set after, that’s all no more no lessHave SOS said no to the meeting?
Utterly ridiculous if so. The meeting and protest aren't mutually exclusive.
In my opinion which is worth **** all, you should strive to keep all options open.
By not attending, it leads to the obvious retort is that we opened the door to all supporters groups and sos said no.
Massive missed opportunity.
And so here we have it- Ron no more statements or more Zoom calls/face to face meetings.Ron's statement and zoom calls are pointless! You will just end up going round in circles........ action is required from ron not words!
I think it’s clear to see that the timing is perfect to create division that’s what Ron does. It matters not as I said above the groups are all on the same page with protest ect....I understand completely that but again nobody is saying to do this instead of a protest. Surely we can and should do both so we can keep the pressure up from all angles to get the changes we need as a club.
If we feel the timing is too soon, that Ron tries to spring it on the group to make it easier to distract and divide, then that's a valid reason.
We organised a protest on the back of going to zoom meetings that were becoming pointless, to enforce that point we have a protest and then have a meeting after. Or would you prefer just the merry go round meeting after meeting after meeting with everybody feeling helpless? Sometimes it takes a United show of strength to get the point across. Hence why all the groups support the protest and not only support but are attending as well.
When ron had his meeting with stan for 80 mins i beleve it was a zoom meeting .When the council meets there meeting is a zoom meeting so he is doing what he is ment to do .
Why and by whom? You can engage and protest at the same time and tell him why.We could do both, but we would get shot down in flames for it, then again you can’t win either way.
2 as SOS and before that was formed I had attended them myself.How many zoom meetings did you have?
By the messages and comments we got from those that follow what we are doing from tens of emails, phone calls. There is real anger out there, you can’t represent everyone’s view all of the time as much as I would like to.Why and by whom? You can engage and protest at the same time and tell him why.
Indeed- on the agreed basis that changes must be made. I would at the same time like to see that accompanied by us being the last to reject dialogue not the first.Agreed it is
By the messages and comments we got from those that follow what we are doing from tens of emails, phone calls. There is real anger out there, you can’t represent everyone’s view all of the time as much as I would like to.
Without doing it to death the frustration is that it’s entirely possible to do both AND at the same time to use the Zoom meeting to re-emphasise why their is a protest on Sat. To me far from imperfect the timing is ideal.I actually do get both sides of the argument. If you are being constantly fobbed off then maybe a new approach is needed. But I also get what Kent Blues is saying, the very thing we want, you are turning down. We don’t want Ron to use that as a future excuse for poor communication- where he blames us.
I think as long as the offer has being declined/postponed in a professional manner then there shouldn’t be an issue, as as far as I’m aware SOS don’t want Martin out. So should do everything to maintain a healthy relationship... hopefully where Ron views the fans with a little more respect.