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Only seen Messi live once. He didn't impress.

I rate Nicky Bailey higher.

Come to think of it, Ronaldo is the only winger I've ever seen in Steve Hammell's pocket, so he's not much cop either.
 
Im with Slipper on Messi's sublime gracefulness being unsurpassed, but Ronaldo is not far behind, and is leagues ahead in terms of physical presence and, more importantly, consistent effectiveness.....

His goals this year....Free-kicks, headers, solo runs, tap ins, shots from outside the box, cheeky flicks, I hate Man U, and dislike Ronaldo, but Im not sure Ive seen such effectiveness / results from one player in the Premiership. I think the Chelsea Liverpool game will be a cagey affair and would suspect both managers would settle for a nil nil draw in the first leg (I dont generally like the 1st leg matches as nothing is resolved on the day) but Im hoping the Man U Barca game will see two teams going all out for the 1st leg victory.
 
Messi is fantastic to watch and, yes he does hover around a pitch but I would worry about him in a bruising encounter at Ewood Park where his feet would have to be at their fleetest to avoid such rapid foulers as Bentley, Pedersen and Warnock let alone the less forgiving Samba.

I feel as though Messi is the pinnacle of the traditional tricky winger but Ronaldo is inventing his own genre of physical, direct winger and who's to bet against Nani learning to play in the smae mould after shaking off some of his needlessness. Still, that goal at Portsmouth amazes me. Ok, Tarnat's scored thunderbolts from miles out but with Ronaldo, you feel as though he will keep practicing and has the skill to make it a more regular event. His celebration summed the goal up for me - a man who decides he want to do something no-one else can do and achieves it.

I feel as though Ronaldo is becoming the sort of player who could triumph in any league or any style which holds him above Messi at the moment. The only edge I think messi has is that he can single-handedly lead Barcelona even when the team is malfunctioning. Several times this season, I've seen him mesmerising the entire defence and laying the easiest chances on a plate for team mates against the meanest defences. To do this shows a maturity that betrays his youth - Henry, for instance was well in to his mid-twenties before he learnt the composure and awareness to single-handedly win games. If Ronaldo learns to raise his form when others around him are floundering somewhat, he will have to be considered the undisputed heavyweight champ.

As mentioned previously, too, Ronaldo has scored 38 goals this season and genuinely contributed to United's run to the semis in the way Kaka did for Milan last year. If he can perform in the remaining three CL games (I think it's fair to say he's been central to the PL winning team), then he will be a player worthy of legend status already.
 
She seems to have been shifted to main story since being cited on the Slippercolumn.




And yes, putting Slipper and Column together in a phrase is still making me laugh.
 
As mentioned previously, too, Ronaldo has scored 38 goals this season and genuinely contributed to United's run to the semis in the way Kaka did for Milan last year. If he can perform in the remaining three CL games (I think it's fair to say he's been central to the PL winning team), then he will be a player worthy of legend status already.

That's key for me. If he helps Man Utd win the European Cup then he goes up a level, to the very very top tier. An excellent player, although in terms of being effective at Roots Hall he's no better than Simon Livett.
 
Chelsea into the final.

When Petr Cech acrobatically tipped Steven Gerrard's late shot over the bar, he prevented Chelsea from having to win their second leg 3-0 in order to progress to the Final. When John Arne Riise stooped to head past Pepe Reina, he left the London side needing just a goalless draw to book their tickets to Moscow. The line between success and failure has never been so thin.

The four previous semi-finals between these two teams have been insomnia cures and after 25 minutes of this tie, I feared that we were in for another snoozefest. Both sides appeared to have reached the conclusion that kicking the ball in the air as hard as they could was the route to success. Then, as Joe Cole spurned a golden opportunity to give his side the lead, Liverpool burst into life and when Rafa Benitez finally switches off his bedside lamp tonight, he'll know that his players should have made more use of their dominance. After Cole's aberration, a full 45 minutes passed before Chelsea had another attempt on goal. Unlike Liverpool, their style of play remained distinctly under-evolved, but Didier Drogba struggled to do anything of note with the long-balls, bar upsetting the home fans with a few more outings of his time-honoured dying swan routine.

Liverpool, in contrast, grew in strength as the game wore on and, though their goal was as scrappy and as undignified as you'll see at this level, their short passing was tremendous. But of all the criticisms you can throw at Chelsea, you cannot doubt their commitment, their resilience and their ability to fight until the bitter end. That they take such a commanding position back to Stamford Bridge next week is due mainly to the brilliance of Cech, who has the worst luck with injuries, but refuses to allow them to prevent him taking his place between the sticks. Held together by two protective masks, he made the critical saves that prevented Liverpool from romping home.

Fernando Torres, so often the hitman with the killer touch, was neutralised by the heavy-handed attentions of John Terry and Ricardo Carvalho. By fair means or foul, they allowed him just two chances and Cech was there to save the day on both occasions. Frank Lampard created a number of golden opportunities for his team-mates, but was at fault for Liverpool's goal and looked a little off the pace, which is hardly surprising, given the emotional turmoil that the England midfielder has been through.

Liverpool fans will be devastated at this late disaster, especially as they were the better team and deserved to win the tie. However, it is the nature of the equaliser that will cause the stinging pangs of bitterness in their hearts. The late ball into the box by Salomon Kalou wasn't fast, it wasn't even particularly dangerous. All Riise had to do was to blast it into the stands with his right foot. Unfortunately, the Norwegian full-back isn't very comfortable with that boot. He'll be even less comfortable when he watches the endless slow motion replays of his doltish header.

It is of course, only half-time in the third epic encounter between the two teams in four years. All Liverpool have to do is to score early at Stamford Bridge and the tie will be blown wide open once again. Sadly for Liverpool, they've failed to score at that stadium in their last four visits. Avram Grant's smile at full-time was as wide as the mouth of the Mersey, and no wonder. Finally, a press conference that he could savour.
 
I have to admit that Liverpool were a fair bit better than I was expecting. Mascherano has shown consumate professionalism in bouncing back from his sending off and Kuyt and Arbeloa, IMO, were the unlikely heroes in a good Liverpool performance.

As for Chelsea, I can't imagine this will shake off any criticism and it still seems somehow inevtiable that Grant is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Having Drogba around will help matters but Grant may do well to support his lead striker. As Slip says, though, the single goal has changed the whole complexion of the tie and indeed the result. However, this time, I don't think Grant got it that far wrong. In spite of their league indifference, Liverpool are very worthy Champinons League foes and an away tie at Anfield, as proved in recent years by Chelsea themselves, is one of the hardest games i the competition.

Lampard maybe wasn't completely ready but I'm sure he would be the first to say that his Yakubu moment was just a lapse in concentration rather than relating to earlier incidents in the week. Maekele could certainly have atoned but opted to jump with his back to the ball and his own goal rather than attempt a clearance and generally struggled. Malouda was very poor again but I have some sympathy as he's not been a shadow of his former self since moving to Chelsea. All that and they got a great result at Anfield.

As with previous seasons, the second leg should be more interesting but this time the onus is on Liverpool to attack and score at Stamford Bridge, a feat they've not achieved for some time.
 
If anyone in the Liverpool dressing room patted John Arne Riise on the back and said, "Cheer up, it'll all look better in the morning," they were lying. In the cold light of day, his injury-time own goal looks worse than ever. It's not so much the grisly stupidity of his knee-high header that makes even an objective viewer recoil as if stung by a wasp, it's the ramifications. Liverpool have gone from having a commanding advantage over their adversaries, to suddenly having it all to do.

Their record away at Chelsea stinks. despite my erroneous claims to the contrary in my post-match report, you have to go a lot further back than four matches to find the last Liverpool goal there. While they were listed as the away team for their FA Cup tie two years ago, their 2-1 victory was played at a neutral venue. Rafa Benitez has never won at Stamford Bridge. Gerard Houllier snatched a 1-0 win there in January 2004 with a goal from Bruno Cheyrou, who you may recall Houllier labelling as the next Zinedine Zidane. Riise came on as a late sub there as well, this time without handing his opponents a critical equaliser.

Liverpool have improved significantly in the past three months, evolving from a rather fortunate, dour outfit into an intriguing proposition. They've got something approaching a swagger about them these days, but they're not quite there yet. It's not a question of simply whether they can make it ninth time lucky at the Bridge. It's whether or not they can do it without allowing Chelsea to score. The Blues haven't been beaten at home for 80 games. Why should Liverpool be the ones to break the record? Fernando Torres was stomped out of the game by John Terry and Ricardo Carvalho. Will Benitez tinker with the golden formation in order to alleviate the pressure on the young Spaniard?

Chelsea's modus operandi is to squeeze past opponents by playing badly, but continually pushing and working until something falls their way. Not since they pulverised Manchester City 6-0 has anyone left Stamford Bridge saying, "I've just seen this year's champions." Ironically, despite the Chelsea fans' desire to play the kind of football that delights the occupants of The Emirates Stadium, Arsene Wenger would kill for a bit of their consistency. From the comfort of Chelsea's odd, nuclear bunker of a press box, I've seen the Blues turn countless matches around after sustaining heavy, but fruitless pressure.

They will welcome back Michael Essien to the fold and drop their lines deep, daring Liverpool to come out on the offensive, leaving enough space for Salomon Kalou or Joe Cole to punish them on the counter-attack. Liverpool fans may mock Stamford Bridge's comparative lack of atmosphere, but I can assure you that they can be pretty loud over there when they want to. The home supporters will have watched in envy at the way that The Kop has provided a twelfth man to their opponents in the past and you can bet that The Matthew Harding Stand will be sounding off in an effort to emulate them.

One early goal will make all the difference for Liverpool, but how many visitors to Stamford Bridge have said that in the last 80 games there? Hang your head, John Arne Riise.
 
Torres might have got a kicking from Carvalho and Terry, but could so easily have had a couple of goals. If he gets the same amount of chances next week, expect him to take at least one of them.
 
Sad to say, I think we're seeing Ronaldo being shown up on the big night. Putting the penalty to one side, too often he's tried to rely on hitting the ball and running when he's up against one of the fittest footballers in modern times.

That said, I'm surprised Barca have taken Messi off. Yes, Xavi has been getting more influential but all the best play was still going through Messi. I would have given him another ten.

What the...what has Ferdinand just done that for?

Oh yeah, forgot Rooney was on the pitch as well. Tevez or Evra has probably impressed me most for Utd. Maybe Yaya Toure for Barca.
 
Manchester United v Barcelona part 2

When he looks back on this game, Cristiano Ronaldo’s only consolation will be that at least John Arne Riise’s mistake was worse. Not many gifts get handed out at the Camp Nou, but Gabriel Milito’s decision to wave his hands in front of a second minute corner like a man trying to shake off the attentions of an angry wasp, was a gift-wrapped opportunity for Manchester United to stun Barcelona. Sir Alex Ferguson praised Ronaldo for his nerve when he re-took and scored a vital penalty against Arsenal a fortnight ago, but that composure must have been left behind in the departure lounge at Manchester Airport, because this spot-kick sailed horribly wide.

A goal then would have silenced a rebellious crowd, given of late to waving their white hankies in disgust. It would have been a vital away strike, it could even have won the game. Unfortunately, all Ronaldo managed to do was rouse a sleeping beast. The home fans found their voice and the team found their form. After weeks of insipid, limp displays, Barcelona were back.

Lionel Messi and Ronaldo spent much of the game enjoying their own personal skills competition. At times this was less of a football match and more of a soft-drink commercial. For me, Messi just about edged it. In his 60 minutes on the pitch, he was a constant source of flicks and tricks, dancing across the turf and turning Patrice Evra inside out. Paddy Crerand joked that George Best used to give his markers ‘twisted blood.’ After a night like this, Evra now knows exactly what he meant. Ronaldo almost matched Messi in sorcery, but was left battered by a series of uncompromising early challenges, and frustrated by the referee’s refusal to award him another two penalties, both of which looked quite clear-cut.

Sir Alex Ferguson announced before kick-off that he had come to impose the game upon his hosts and, had it not before Ronaldo’s miss, he may well have managed it. In the end he had to be grateful for the calm, stoic defensive abilities of Rio Ferdinand who marshalled the marauding Samuel Eto’o brilliantly. Barcelona were dominant in both possession and with the number of their chances, but Sir Alex will be delighted that his team managed to keep them at arms length and will be ontent enough to take the game back to Old Trafford on an even keel.

The only blemish on Manchester United’s evening was a subdued performance from Wayne Rooney who was deployed wide on the right and starved of possession while Ronaldo enjoyed figurehead status in the centre. It was a gameplan that worked to great effect against Roma, but here it was a failure and the Englishman, desperate to score on St George’s Day, was hauled off with 15 minutes still to play. He did not look amused. Rooney was so desperate to get involved that he could be seen charging in for tackles at right-back on a number of occasions, almost as if he couldn’t cope without touching the ball at least once every now and then.

As the game wore on to its goalless conclusion, both sides seemed happy with the outcome. The classic head-to-head that we’d all hoped for never quite materialised, but this was special in its own way. Both teams came to play the ball on the ground, they came to entertain and they came to win. Even without goals, this was still more captivating than the previous night’s affair. Next week at Old Trafford, with everything still to play for, maybe we’ll get that classic.
 
When he looks back on this game, Cristiano Ronaldo’s only consolation will be that at least John Arne Riise’s mistake was worse. Not many gifts get handed out at the Camp Nou, but Gabriel Milito’s decision to wave his hands in front of a second minute corner like a man trying to shake off the attentions of an angry wasp, was a gift-wrapped opportunity for Manchester United to stun Barcelona. Sir Alex Ferguson praised Ronaldo for his nerve when he re-took and scored a vital penalty against Arsenal a fortnight ago, but that composure must have been left behind in the departure lounge at Manchester Airport, because this spot-kick sailed horribly wide.

A goal then would have silenced a rebellious crowd, given of late to waving their white hankies in disgust. It would have been a vital away strike, it could even have won the game. Unfortunately, all Ronaldo managed to do was rouse a sleeping beast. The home fans found their voice and the team found their form. After weeks of insipid, limp displays, Barcelona were back.

Lionel Messi and Ronaldo spent much of the game enjoying their own personal skills competition. At times this was less of a football match and more of a soft-drink commercial. For me, Messi just about edged it. In his 60 minutes on the pitch, he was a constant source of flicks and tricks, dancing across the turf and turning Patrice Evra inside out. Paddy Crerand joked that George Best used to give his markers ‘twisted blood.’ After a night like this, Evra now knows exactly what he meant. Ronaldo almost matched Messi in sorcery, but was left battered by a series of uncompromising early challenges, and frustrated by the referee’s refusal to award him another two penalties, both of which looked quite clear-cut.

Sir Alex Ferguson announced before kick-off that he had come to impose the game upon his hosts and, had it not before Ronaldo’s miss, he may well have managed it. In the end he had to be grateful for the calm, stoic defensive abilities of Rio Ferdinand who marshalled the marauding Samuel Eto’o brilliantly. Barcelona were dominant in both possession and with the number of their chances, but Sir Alex will be delighted that his team managed to keep them at arms length and will be ontent enough to take the game back to Old Trafford on an even keel.

The only blemish on Manchester United’s evening was a subdued performance from Wayne Rooney who was deployed wide on the right and starved of possession while Ronaldo enjoyed figurehead status in the centre. It was a gameplan that worked to great effect against Roma, but here it was a failure and the Englishman, desperate to score on St George’s Day, was hauled off with 15 minutes still to play. He did not look amused. Rooney was so desperate to get involved that he could be seen charging in for tackles at right-back on a number of occasions, almost as if he couldn’t cope without touching the ball at least once every now and then.

As the game wore on to its goalless conclusion, both sides seemed happy with the outcome. The classic head-to-head that we’d all hoped for never quite materialised, but this was special in its own way. Both teams came to play the ball on the ground, they came to entertain and they came to win. Even without goals, this was still more captivating than the previous night’s affair. Next week at Old Trafford, with everything still to play for, maybe we’ll get that classic.

Not too bad...I suppose. :)
 
Honestly, I thought Evra was excellent against Messi after realising how to defend him. Every time, Messi was shunted inside straight in to (curiously) Hargreaves, Park, Carrick or, more fear-inspiring for Argentinian ankles, Scholes. As the game wore on, Evra became more and more decisive and seemed to have a perfect understanding of how far he could go by the end. Physical and assured, if he does this more often, Utd will be richer for it.

Ferdinand was immaculate, Tevez held the ball up well and everyone else, bar Rooney and Ronaldo, were pretty much, well, everyone else. Got exactly what we were expecting.

Messi saw enough of the ball to keep United on edge in the first half and as Iniesta and Xavi started to move the ball around, United couldn't get near the ball. The first half was not a good one for United and yet somehow, you felt that the unmarshalled Barca defence always had potential to capitulate. One can only guess at what Abidal was aiming for with his lunge on Ronaldo which astonishingly wasn't given. Frequently, commentators say, "anywhere else on the pitch and it's a foul" referring to penalty box incidents. In this case, it seemed to be either "any other player/anywhere more central and it's a foul" because the ball barely moved after the lunge.

The pundits seemed to give Man Utd too much credit when, in reality, the scoreline tonight is much a reflection fo the tie as a whole. Man Utd slight favourites but no more.

Second leg, with Messi ready for 90 mins could be interesting.
 
If it was on the table before the match, Ferguson would've snatched your hand of for a draw. Good result to take to Old Trafford despite what could've been.
 
I blame my friend, Tony. We perched on the edge of our seats in excitement, saw that both managers had thrown caution to the wind and named attacking line-ups, watched the highlights of the two 3-3 draws from 1999 and came to our own conclusions.

"Iain," said Tony happily. "This is going to be an absolute classic."

After that, I suppose we were always doomed to a goalless draw.

In a way, both teams were guilty of showing too much respect. The frothing hype in the days leading up to the game had created a mutual adoration, rather than the barely-concealed hatred that marks out Liverpool's clashes with Chelsea. Barcelona and Manchester United weren't really fighting each other. They were warriors under the same flag, striving for the beauty of the game. Shoulder to shoulder against the dark forces of 4-5-1 and the dreaded 'long ball'.

Sir Alex Ferguson made one concession and that was to play Paul Scholes as a defensive midfielder. It seemed like madness, given that Scholes' previous attempts at regaining possession have given the impression that he'd have more luck playing in goal than in defence, but it worked a treat. Scholes was flawless all night. So too, sadly, was Yaya Toure, the bigger little brother of Arsenal's Kolo. The lanky midfielder was so mobile that it seemed like there were two of them on the pitch. When Toure performs, Barcelona are superb. When he goes missing, as he did against Schalke, they fall apart.

If United are to defeat them at Old Trafford, Sir Alex will have to match this defensive brilliance with a coherent plan of attack. United may have kept their opponents at arms length for much of the night, but they didn't make that many inroads themselves. Ji-Sung Park and Wayne Rooney were almost anonymous on the flanks. Would two strikers have made more sense, or would it have compromised their shape? It's something that needs addressing before Tuesday night. If anything, it highlighted United's need for a different kind of striker. In Gabriel Milito and Rafael Marquez, Barcelona have two relatively small centre-backs. Unfortunately, United don't have anything approaching a target-man. Louis Saha could do it, but he's always up on bricks. Angolan youngster Manucho would be good, but he's been farmed out to Greece. It was noticeable at corners and free-kicks that United had very few big targets to aim at.

There has been talk of United taking an advantage back home with them, but it's negligible at best. In reality, they have missed their chance of scoring an away goal. If it was an Italian side visiting Manchester with the score at 0-0, then there would be an advantage, but Barcelona can score goals from anywhere. Lionel Messi played so beautifully throughout that I briefly considered asking The New Paper's bosses if I could become The Spanish Kaki and relocate to Catalonia just so that I could watch him play every week. You could fill a gallery with video screens playing hundreds of clips of Messi bringing the ball under control and millions of tourists would flock to it for centuries.

And that's what this game was about. It was an exhibition of class and sophistication, rather than a head-to-head, blood and thunder battle. Respect is admirable, but if one of these teams is to make it to Moscow, they're going to have to dispense with it for a while and get the job done. Next Tuesday will be a very different encounter.
 
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