Tommy2holes
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No news of a decent left back and no news on JW.
Plus Sam Barratt injAs it stands :-
Oxley
Bishop
Harry Lennon (CB)
John White (CB / RB) - Contract pending
Rob Kiernan (CB / CM)
Harry Kyprianou (CB / LB)- inj LT
Jason Demetriou (RB / RM / LB) - Inj LT
Elvis Bwomono (RB / LB)
Tim Dieng (CM / CB) - Inj ST
Mark Milligan (CM / CB)
Dru Yearwood (CM)
Sam Mantom (CM)
Michael Klass (CM)
Luke Hyam (CM) - Inj Indefinite
Isaac Hutchinson (ACM / CM / LM / RM)
Stephen McLaughlin (LM / RM)
Michael Kightly (RM / LM)
Simon Cox (CF / ACM) - Inj ST
Tom Hopper (CF) - injured LT
Stephen Humphrys (CF)
Charlie Kelman (CF)
Brandon Goodship (CF / RF / LF)
Theo Robinson (CF / RF)
23 players
3 injured long term
3 injured short term
Triallist :-
Blackman (LB)
Jordan (CB)
Lyden (CM)
Roberts (LW /RW)
Of these the most needed are Jordan and Roberts
U23s Squad :-
Rob Howard (RB)
Tom Clifford (LB)
Richard Taylor (CB)
Emile Acquah (CF)
Of these I can only see Clifford being used / needed
As it stands :-
Oxley
Bishop
Harry Lennon (CB)
John White (CB / RB) - Contract pending
Rob Kiernan (CB / CM)
Harry Kyprianou (CB / LB)- inj LT
Jason Demetriou (RB / RM / LB) - Inj LT
Elvis Bwomono (RB / LB)
Tim Dieng (CM / CB) - Inj ST
Mark Milligan (CM / CB)
Dru Yearwood (CM)
Sam Mantom (CM)
Michael Klass (CM)
Luke Hyam (CM) - Inj Indefinite
Isaac Hutchinson (ACM / CM / LM / RM)
Stephen McLaughlin (LM / RM)
Michael Kightly (RM / LM)
Simon Cox (CF / ACM) - Inj ST
Tom Hopper (CF) - injured LT
Stephen Humphrys (CF)
Charlie Kelman (CF)
Brandon Goodship (CF / RF / LF)
Theo Robinson (CF / RF)
23 players
3 injured long term
3 injured short term
Triallist :-
Blackman (LB)
Jordan (CB)
Lyden (CM)
Roberts (LW /RW)
Of these the most needed are Jordan and Roberts
U23s Squad :-
Rob Howard (RB)
Tom Clifford (LB)
Richard Taylor (CB)
Emile Acquah (CF)
Of these I can only see Clifford being used / needed
Also Barratt (LW/RW) and Gard (CM) as long-term injured. However the long term injureds are all due back in the short-medium term.
From end of last season we’ve effectively lost Turner (CB), Moore (CB), Hart (LB), Coker (LB), Bunn (LW/RW/SS), Hendrie (LB) whilst gaining Milligan, Goodship and having Robinson return. A left-back is a must after that we have the numbers (the loanees being injury cover for Kiernan, Coker and Barratt) if White re-signs although maybe we need a loanee to cover injuries.
After that we probably need departures before we can add.
Agreed, particularly about the left back situation. I’m still worried about our options on the left and right of midfield/wing. It seems to be McLaughlin and Kightly still as the only established senior pros - and they had shocking seasons last year.
Apart from that I’m quite happy with our options everywhere else, even if we may not be at full strength in the early season. Loans will be part of the picture IMO to get us over any initial period of weakness in other positions, but permanent additions are needed especially at left back but also a wide midfielder who can play either side I think. If we signed those two, and they are of reasonable quality, then added one or two loans I’d be delighted overall. I’m not sure we can afford all those though...
That aside some of the opinions of Kighty and McL have been way over the top. I'm sure with a new beating hart in the middle of the pitch the wide men will have a better season......Well, McL at least.
Is anyone else worried about the current lack of depth.
Still have players out injured and lack of cover.
I know the season is still some time away but with pre season building pace. It seems we are still very short in key areas.
I’m not convinced. True, opinions are divided (when aren’t they, on any subject!) but as senior pros they singularly failed to deliver even in periods of better play and better results last season. Of course they might be better this year. They might just as easily be equally ineffective.
Part of encouraging an improvement from them is about genuine competition - which neither of them had last season and they still don’t. Bunn was occasionally available and sometimes did well before yet another injury. He and Hyam are examples of brittle players who with a game or two began to demonstrate a contribution. Kightly and Macca didn’t at any stage, IMO. Macca played over 2000 minutes and scored two goals, but much more tellingly only generated 1 assist. That is desperately bad.
I can’t blame Taylor Moore for not picking up Tom Eaves when we played Crawley. Considering he was probably already man marked by whoever Gillingham were playing that day.
I still have faith in Macca for now but Kightly is past it and should only really be considered as an impact sub at best.I’m not convinced. True, opinions are divided (when aren’t they, on any subject!) but as senior pros they singularly failed to deliver even in periods of better play and better results last season. Of course they might be better this year. They might just as easily be equally ineffective.
Part of encouraging an improvement from them is about genuine competition - which neither of them had last season and they still don’t. Bunn was occasionally available and sometimes did well before yet another injury. He and Hyam are examples of brittle players who with a game or two began to demonstrate a contribution. Kightly and Macca didn’t at any stage, IMO. Macca played over 2000 minutes and scored two goals, but much more tellingly only generated 1 assist. That is desperately bad.
Haven’t seen anything of Clifford so far but Hutchinson looks very promising and from what I’ve seen of Klass I think this could be a breakthrough season for him.While it’s reasonable to suggest any of these players that we didn’t feel were good enough or not or whether we think they under performed or badly out of form, may perform differently or better under new managers / coaches and a fresh start, it’s surprising to me how many of us are refusing to consider that some of the younger players won’t have progressed with being a season older and wiser and a season / summer of physical development...as well as a fresh outlook....
It seems no one has considered the likes of Klass, Clifford, Hutchinson, all in areas we are desperately short of, may have a genuine case for breaking through and may already be considered an improvement on the likes of Kightly, McLaughlin, Dieng etc....
They will by the very nature of their age experience and natural ability have progressed naturally from last season.....what they make of it of course will be up to them but we can’t consider them youth players or young lads or potential, forever.....
Yes, I'm not disagreeing with you about the performances from Kightly and SM. And yes your right we certainly need competition in more places than just the forward line. I was just pointing out the harsh reality of how much competition can we actually afford.
My point being lets not expect a well known and permanent 'name' to be arriving anytime soon in those slots.
Genuinely believe Theo can be a good winger, fast and able to run in behind, not too bad of a cross either (Kightly goal v Oxford). Particularly as he may not get a look in up front
He started 3 games last season out wide with Cox and Hopper upfront......We won all 3 games but he had been subbed at Burton at half time I think? when we were 1-0 down.
Might not be the best option away but certainly at RH we could have done with at least a mild threat in the first 30 minutes of some games.
Hopefully we'll have a couple of signings at least this week especially at left back and an attacking CM . Better to get them in earlier to get playing in the friendlies and used to their teammates